Secondary VCE-what subjects?

[lifelike_]

Anyone know if you need prerequesites for journalism

Depends on the institution, but you'll generally need a score over 35 in English to guarantee entry into most places (providing you get the ENTER).

I think the RMIT requirement is a 35, while the Monash requirement is a 30.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Anyone know if you need prerequesites for journalism?

According to my VTAC guide:

Swinburne, Hawthorn: 20+ in English (any)
LaTrobe, Bundoora: 25+ in English (any) (I'm assuming English isn't your second language)
Monash, Caufield: same as LaTrobe
RMIT: 35+ in English (any)

The clearly-in ENTERs for 2009 were:

Swinburne: couldn't find
LaTrobe: 84.10
Monash: 86.20
RMIT: 95.75

So far I'm doing:

English 1+2
Maths Methods 1+2
Advanced General Maths 1+2
Biology 3+4

Need 2 more. Don't know whether or not to do French. I get +12 on my enter I think if I do well.

If you enjoy French, and you're getting anything from C+ higher (maybe B), I'd suggest doing it at least in year 11. The scaling is a very nice bonus, and the ability to speak a language looks fantastic on a CV.

The other subject depends on your interests. From what I can gather, you like Maths, and are fairly good at it, so Physics (a.k.a applied basic maths) would be a possibility. On the other hand, subjects like Accounting, Economics etc. are fairly popular as well.

 

[OzBomber]

Haha physics!? No way. I heard that's like impossible. My maths teacher said that if you get 80+% in general maths you should do methods and advanced general.

I'm thinking of doing one of PE, Business Management or IT.

Btw isn't 20 low? I thought it went up to 50? I'm fairly confident I could get 80s in my enter. I really want to learn French, but compared to everyone else I don't think I'm as good. I get good marks and have suggested to do it in VCE but just simple things like translating verbs etc I struggle at. Other people in my class know most off the top of their head yet I need a dictionary.

 

[Skeeta Olly]

Decent ENTER @ RMIT.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Haha physics!? No way. I heard that's like impossible.

It's the easiest subject out of my 7. Basically, you need to be able to substitute values into simple formulae (the hardest is v^2 = u^2 + 2ax) and know a few definitions. The people who struggle with physics are the people who try too hard to understand something which you just need to accept. Physics doesn't even use proper scientific conventions such as significant figures like Chemistry does. Near enough is good enough.

My maths teacher said that if you get 80+% in general maths you should do methods and advanced general.

That's pretty accurate. If you're getting A's in year 10 maths, then Methods won't be a problem if you do the work required, and Spec will give you a very nice scaled score.

I'm thinking of doing one of PE, Business Management or IT.

Our school doesn't offer Business, but the people who do/did the other two enjoyed them, so they're both good options.

Btw isn't 20 low? I thought it went up to 50? I'm fairly confident I could get 80s in my enter.

For someone looking at uni, 20 is pretty low. 50% of the people enrolled in a subject get 30 or above.

I really want to learn French, but compared to everyone else I don't think I'm as good. I get good marks and have suggested to do it in VCE but just simple things like translating verbs etc I struggle at. Other people in my class know most off the top of their head yet I need a dictionary.

In that case I'd suggest you do it. Knowing vocab off the top of your head isn't hugely important in year 10, but if it something you want to improve on, I'd suggest buying a packet of flip-cards, and learning maybe 5 words a week. That doesn't require a lot of effort at all (5 minutes to choose the words and make the cards and probably 10 x 30 seconds during the week to learn them) and really adds up if you do it every week.

 

[melbourneman]

Can someone please explain to me how important the scores you get on SACs in year 12 are? Some people say that your ranking in the class is all that matters. Some say your score on each SAC is what counts. So yeah...

 

[deeman12]

Can someone please explain to me how important the scores you get on SACs in year 12 are? Some people say that your ranking in the class is all that matters. Some say your score on each SAC is what counts. So yeah...

My Psychology teacher and I were discussing this very matter today. She made it clear that your ranking takes precedence over your scores. In any case, your good SAC scores will become superfluous if you do badly on the exam.

 

[BomberGal]

ahahahaha good luck getting a high enoug enter with the easy, bludge subjects and enjoying the last few years of school.

The problem with the people who choose all the bludge subjects with this plan in mind is that they're not very....bright. That's why they don't get high scores.

 

[chargers 09]

Can someone please explain to me how important the scores you get on SACs in year 12 are? Some people say that your ranking in the class is all that matters. Some say your score on each SAC is what counts. So yeah...

this is just for geography at our school, im assuming most subjecys would be fairly similar
SACS=50%
EXAM=50%

 

[A Living God]

The problem with the people who choose all the bludge subjects with this plan in mind is that they're not very....bright. That's why they don't get high scores.

I think the problem is more often that they take the bludge subjects and then bludge. People generally don't understand is that the only way to get a good mark in a easy subject is get near perfect results.

 

[BomberGal]

I think the problem is more often that they take the bludge subjects and then bludge. People generally don't understand is that the only way to get a good mark in a easy subject is get near perfect results.

Well, that's probably true as well. Maybe it comes under the 'not very bright' umbrella anyway - idiots would think they don't have to do any work.

 

[magic_johnson!]

Well, that's probably true as well. Maybe it comes under the 'not very bright' umbrella anyway - idiots would think they don't have to do any work.

"why would you do work when you can quit, get a trade and be earning 6 figures in a couple of years"

 

[PowerIStough]

Got to put mine in for Year 11 in the next two weeks. The Year 11's going into Year 12 had to put them in today

Most likely will go with this:

Maths (General)
Maths Methods
English
Business Management 3 +4 (Year 12 subject)
Visual Communication
Physical Education
Biology

 

[watermelonslice]

Can someone please explain to me how important the scores you get on SACs in year 12 are? Some people say that your ranking in the class is all that matters. Some say your score on each SAC is what counts. So yeah...

It's some complicated process from what I remember. (God I feel old.) Basically the actual score will allow your school to rank every student. But your actual SAC scores may change once VCAA gets a hold of it. Whether your mark goes up or down depends on how well everyone else in your school does on the exam. For example, if your school sets a hard SAC, and the highest ranked student only gets 12/20. If said student gets 90/100 on the final exam, and your school generally does well (i.e. high average mark on the final exam), then VCAA will look at your SAC scores, determine the SAC was too hard and scale your SAC marks up. E.g. raw SAC marks of 90/100 may get scaled up to 99/100.

The actual weight of your SAC marks varies from subject to subject though. I know for some of the maths subjects SACs are worth 33%, but some humanities subjects give SACs 50% weight.

 

[magic_johnson!]

Emailed in my form for year 11 next year. Doing:

English
Methods
Gen A
Japanese
Chemistry
Graphics
History

 

[treefingers]

ending up choosing...
English
Methods
Specialist
Legal
Economics
IT Applications (3/4)

 

[lifelike_]

It's some complicated process from what I remember. (God I feel old.) Basically the actual score will allow your school to rank every student. But your actual SAC scores may change once VCAA gets a hold of it. Whether your mark goes up or down depends on how well everyone else in your school does on the exam. For example, if your school sets a hard SAC, and the highest ranked student only gets 12/20. If said student gets 90/100 on the final exam, and your school generally does well (i.e. high average mark on the final exam), then VCAA will look at your SAC scores, determine the SAC was too hard and scale your SAC marks up. E.g. raw SAC marks of 90/100 may get scaled up to 99/100.

The actual weight of your SAC marks varies from subject to subject though. I know for some of the maths subjects SACs are worth 33%, but some humanities subjects give SACs 50% weight.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

Also, I've heard that a top ranking in a cohort combined with a perfect exam score will always yield a 50. Could be wrong though.

 

[RevolutionalRoot]

Thank god VCE is over.

I scored 43 and got into a bartendering course.

 

[Inferno]

this is just for geography at our school, im assuming most subjecys would be fairly similar
SACS=50%
EXAM=50%

Yeah I think most subjects are like that, all of mine are anyway I think (not sure about Further though).

I do:
English
Further Maths
Geography
International Studies
National Politics

Regretting not doing a 3/4 last year, basically given up on Further (bloody Careers councilor told me to keep doing it, bad choice...) so I can't screw up any other subjects.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Friday's d-day for me. Thinking of going, at this stage;

English
Maths Methods
Business Man 3&4
Legal Studies
International Politics
Philosophy

 

[Masten_Magic]

im in wa so it may be hard for some of you guys to understand
English 2A/2B
Maths 3A/3B
Political and Law
Physics
Phyisical Education Studies 2A/2B
Outdoor Education 1A/1B

 

[watermelonslice]

I need to hand my subjects in on Wednesday. I have chosen:

English
Literature
French
Chinese
Chemistry
Maths Methods (3 & 4)

Wow that is some hardcore languages you've got going there.

 

[watermelonslice]

Lol, I love them all! I couldn't decide which language to do, so I thought I may as well do both French and Chinse as well as Literature and English. All four are probably my strongest subjects anyway.

That's really lucky of you. Lit, Chinese and French will be scaled up like crazy!

 

[blockman155]

In year 11 and currently doing:
PE
IT
General Math
English
Food
Media

I wanna get into physiotherapy, is there any other subjects i need to get into a course for that in uni?

 

[watermelonslice]

In year 11 and currently doing:
PE
IT
General Math
English
Food
Media

I wanna get into physiotherapy, is there any other subjects i need to get into a course for that in uni?

As far as I'm aware, the prereqs are different depending on what uni you're looking at. Also you may need to do the UMAT. You should look it up in the VTAC guide.