VFL VFL Season 2024

[Jen2310]

Last night:

 

[Mollythedolly]

Is Christian draft eligible? Thought he’d have another year at U18s.

 

[Jen2310]

Is Christian draft eligible? Thought he’d have another year at U18s.

Nicky? last two years. But he was telling me, he has been cruelled by injury during that time and hasnt been able to play consistently because of it.
So hopefully he can get on the list. No better place for him to develop, with great facilities also.

He has a younger brother, Max. Who is U16 this year and will play for Oakleigh. Taller, more key defender height. Nicky is 191, so Max at 15 must be at least 192-193cm at this point.

 

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[RobJD]

I see the recruitment of a first ruck for our VFL side important in the development of our emerging AFL mid-fielders - too often last year our emerging Rucks/Forward were soundly beaten by VFL rucks who were stronger and more experienced than our VFL rucks.

Any news on the VFL side regarding a ruck? I know that we have Teakle trialling as an SSP player, I assume that there's no guarantee that if he's not selected on the AFL List that he'll join our VFL side - if that's the case, and assuming that we're not looking to run: Begg, Steene or Frampton as a our first choice ruck (I see each of those players as a 2nd Ruck), then we might be light-on for a first ruck again in 2024.

 

[Jen2310]

I see the recruitment of a first ruck for our VFL side important in the development of our emerging AFL mid-fielders - too often last year our emerging Rucks/Forward were soundly beaten by VFL rucks who were stronger and more experienced than our VFL rucks.

Any news on the VFL side regarding a ruck? I know that we have Teakle trialling as an SSP player, I assume that there's no guarantee that if he's not selected on the AFL List that he'll join our VFL side - if that's the case, and assuming that we're not looking to run: Begg, Steene or Frampton as a our first choice ruck (I see each of those players as a 2nd Ruck), then we might be light-on for a first ruck again in 2024.

If Steene and Begg arent rucking at vfl level, that stunts their development, so they'll always be 1st choice over any VFL ruck.
But at VFL training, we have a couple players I dont recognise duking it out in the ruck.

 

[RobJD]

If Steene and Begg arent rucking at vfl level, that stunts their development, so they'll always be 1st choice over any VFL ruck.
But at VFL training, we have a couple players I dont recognise duking it out in the ruck.

Agree with Steene and Begg rucking, based on last year's form, they both seemed under-developed to perform as a first ruck and my assumption is that both are being groomed as more of a forward/ruck types, rather than playing as a ruck/forward.

 

[Jen2310]

Agree with Steene and Begg rucking, based on last year's form, they both seemed under-developed to perform as a first ruck and my assumption is that both are being groomed as more of a forward/ruck types, rather than playing as a ruck/forward.

I think Steene will be a first ruck in the long term, with begg being a forward ruck. But for the time, they have been developing forward as well, and alternating so they arent ruined with their bodies.
Or the fact we seem to like to have 2 rucks, and both being able to play forward, even in afl.

 

[Oraaaaazio]

Heard Hutchinson lost part of his finger which could put a dampener on his pre season, hopefully he can recover well and adjust to it. Plenty of players played without part of a finger but might have some effect on his ball drop & marking you'd think

 

[McOrist]

Heard Hutchinson lost part of his finger which could put a dampener on his pre season, hopefully he can recover well and adjust to it. Plenty of players played without part of a finger but might have some effect on his ball drop & marking you'd think

Oh no! Not Hutchinson! How can we cover his loss? Hutchinson is such a key to our 2023 program. BTW ...who is Hutchinson??

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Oh no! Not Hutchinson! How can we cover his loss? Hutchinson is such a key to our 2023 program. BTW ...who is Hutchinson??

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[Oraaaaazio]

Oh no! Not Hutchinson! How can we cover his loss? Hutchinson is such a key to our 2023 program. BTW ...who is Hutchinson??

Oh no! an update on a VFL player in the VFL thread. How dare I?

Would've had to go back all of 1 or 2 pages to find out. He wasn't part of 2023 program obviously but was tracking well to feature in the 2024 program. Saw he's back training with a cover on his finger in one of the videos posted above anyway

 

[Jen2310]

Eastern/Oakleigh graduate, Jett Hartman has won a contract with the pies VFL
He's 189cm, but he is stronger and plays taller than he looks.

Just over 12 months ago, teenaged Mooroolbark defender Jett Hartman’s career was at a crossroads.


Dismissed by his local Talent League club Eastern Ranges in preseason, Hartman thought the dream was gone.

By June, he was a mainstay of the Oakleigh Chargers backline.

In September, he had several coups including now AFL-listed Zane Duursma and Luke Lloyd – enough to attract mild interest from AFL recruiters.

The year, which amplified the importance of perspective, was topped off in December when he received a VFL contract at Collingwood.

The resilient and footy-loving teen was willing to travel the rugged path to prove his peak was more than merely as a dogged competitor at local level.

A last-minute chance from nearby Talent League club Oakleigh after the Ranges let him go came about because the Chargers are always affected by a large chunk of players missing the middle of the season with school footy, which takes precedent.

But it was Hartman’s ability to compartmentalise and front up which enabled him to play 11 games while riding the tidal wave of emotions that the footy talent pathway releases.

“Once I got cut (from Eastern), I thought that’s my dream right there, it’s sort of been taken away from me,” Hartman reflected.

“I was absolutely shattered. I remember the conversation I had with the Eastern Talent Manager (Danny Ryan) was pretty hard and the next week or so was tough as well, but it’s something you have to deal with and just keep pushing through.”

The Ranges, whom he played a game for in 2022, were aware of his talent but didn’t see him playing a major part in 2023 given it possessed arguably the strongest backline in the competition.

By admission, Hartman wasn’t performing the way he had hoped in preseason and remembers channeling his frustration into match simulation back at Mooroolbark in preseason last year.

“I struggled a bit at times with letting negative thoughts get in and that’s one big improvement – (I’ve just been) able to move on faster,” Hartman said.

Hartman was available from round 7 – when he was offered a list spot – and played every game thereafter.

Strong one-on-one and providing voice and drive out of the back half, his second match was a baptism of fire on top 10 2023 draft selection Nate Caddy.

A deceptively strong game on x-factor Duursma (North Melbourne) and grappling with Eastern’s Riley Weatherill in the last game of the year showed his progress.

“I learned that the best players just keep moving around the stoppage and contest – I’m not the quickest player but I know I’m more physical,” Hartman said.

“My big thing was bodywork and body positioning – going as hard as I can in one-on-ones.

“I think playing (12 senior games for Mooroolbark) helped me get to the right position, intercept and halve contests.”

Many components came together to assist: a dietician helped strengthen him 10 kgs; he trained with like-minded footballers at sports recruiting platform Trainstop; he sought out a sprint coach identifying it as a necessary improvement; and developed his fundamentals through one-on-one sessions with former Collingwood-listed players Tarkyn Lockyer and Josh Fraser

Josh Fraser

Age

42

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.4

4star

CL

2.5

4star

HO

11.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

2.8

3star

HO

8.6

5star

.

Another key chapter in 2023 was forging his own reputation at Mooroolbark, divorced from that of Dad, Brett, a Mustangs legend and former Carlton reserves player.

“People would come up to you and say ‘you’re not as good as your Dad’ and that really bothered me early days, but you’ve got to realise you’re two separate people,” Hartman said.

“People have always referenced me to him throughout junior footy but coming in and having really strong performances at senior level has helped me create my own path.”

Those experiences have shaped Hartman’s outlook as he continues his bid to eventually make it onto an AFL list.

“What I’ve learned most from my years in the system is that it changes real quick,” Hartman noted.

“For me, I enjoy the success of others, but I almost focussed on the success of others and tried to help those around me too much, so I was lacking my processes.

“I felt like I almost pushed the person next to me to make sure they could get there but forgot about pushing myself.

“Although not where I dreamed of being, I still think I may be a late developer and hopefully when I hit 22-23, I find my best and that’s when I get on a list.”

Mooroolbark teen lands VFL contract

Just over 12 months ago, teenaged Mooroolbark defender Jett Hartman's career was at a crossroads. Dismissed by his local Talent [...]

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[Jen2310]

We'll see our NGA prospects back training tomorrow night with the VFL. Kerr told me they have been given permission to keep training with VFL

 

[Jen2310]

 

[Jen2310]

Bit of Ned Long from VFL training tonight..

 

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[manicpie]

Heard Hutchinson lost part of his finger which could put a dampener on his pre season, hopefully he can recover well and adjust to it. Plenty of players played without part of a finger but might have some effect on his ball drop & marking you'd think

Ahh, Hutchinson, Hutch, Hutchy, Chinson and chi chi. He'll be fine whoever he is

 

[Jen2310]

Nicky Christian

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[Jen2310]

AnUltimateRessie if you hear about when the practice VFL games are scheduled to be, can you let us know?

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

AnUltimateRessie if you hear about when the practice VFL games are scheduled to be, can you let us know?

No worries, I've been pretty quiet on my end this off-season but haven't heard too much either (and been slack on movements!)

Expect the VFL lads to run around on the 21st in the AFL match simulation v North Melbourne, though! That'll be practice match 1

 

[Jen2310]

No worries, I've been pretty quiet on my end this off-season but haven't heard too much either (and been slack on movements!)

Expect the VFL lads to run around on the 21st in the AFL match simulation v North Melbourne, though! That'll be practice match 1

I was hoping they would. Nice. I'll be there.

Cheers.

 

[Jen2310]

 

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[Jen2310]

VFL tonight. It was a players led session, with no coaches. They must be affected by the AFLPA break. But it was a good look at the players, who are training, who are self motivated, and they all seem to be. They know what to do.

I feel like we have found our reincarnation of Sam Fowler lol Also has a bit of Ginni in the way he moves.