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Kwality said:
18k is a full house it seems.
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It is. I was at the game as the only spare seats in the ground were behind the sidescreens. Was literally chock-a-block, even on the members side which surprised me.
 

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Admiral Afterworld said:
If Subiaco's hypothetical replacement is built Cricket Australia should step in and get Australia and the Scorchers playing there.
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No.

It would be a drop in pitch. The body in charge of cricket in this country should not be sacrificing one of the only non drop-ins left in the country, especially given it has returned to its old pace/bounce.
 
Glinn Mgraw said:
No.

It would be a drop in pitch. The body in charge of cricket in this country should not be sacrificing one of the only non drop-ins left in the country, especially given it has returned to its old pace/bounce.
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If the body in charge of cricket puts a non-drop in pitch ahead of getting tens of thousands more people through the gates then you know that's an organisation that has it's priorities completely ****ed up.

Who gives a shit about the pitch in a T20 game anyway?
 
Rob said:
If the body in charge of cricket puts a non-drop in pitch ahead of getting tens of thousands more people through the gates then you know that's an organisation that has it's priorities completely screwed up.

Who gives a shit about the pitch in a T20 game anyway?
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If the body in charge of cricket is putting T20 first there are bigger problems for the game.

I don't necessarily have a problem with the Scorchers playing there, but Australia should not.
 
The noises coming out of the WACA (Dennis Lillee mentioned it himself in the interview linked earlier) are that blockbusters will be played at the new stadium.

I take that to mean T20s (domestic and international) and ODIs (if the format survives). The rest wouldn't get a big enough crowd to make it worthwhile.
 
Glinn Mgraw said:
If the body in charge of cricket is putting T20 first there are bigger problems for the game.

I don't necessarily have a problem with the Scorchers playing there, but Australia should not.
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Same principle though - if it means an extra 30,000 fans through the gates, then surely that's in the interests of the game ahead of what the pitch will do. It's not like they'd be playing on corrugated iron.

Bear in mind you're talking about a venue that has a shade over 10,000 seats available to the public and is about to lose further capacity if the stage 1 apartments go up.
 

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Admiral Afterworld said:
Ashes Tests would.
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And Scorchers games, or definitely finals. Regardless, it's a completely positive outcome: higher attendance, income, and interest for games where it'd be barely maximised at the WACA; history and sentiment being continued at the WACA, as it'd host the majority of domestic and international matches.
 
Tests should always remain at the WACA, even the Ashes. It's like proposing that the Ashes test should be moved from the SCG to ANZ so they can fit an extra 40k people into the ground.
 
Admiral Byng said:
Test matches would be red-circled as "WACA only" events.
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Yeah, I think that's likely to be the case, even Ashes tests. In saying that, they might cop some flak about it if demand is even close to the last series. Bear in mind that capacity will be reduced by what looks to be another few thousand if the first stage apartments get up. The Inverarity stand is to be demolished (and not replaced) as well as a few ground level seats and some of the western bank.

It's entirely possible that the WACA might not even get a test if it's only a 5 match series, as Bellerive could easily have a larger capacity.
 
Glinn Mgraw said:
No.

It would be a drop in pitch. The body in charge of cricket in this country should not be sacrificing one of the only non drop-ins left in the country, especially given it has returned to its old pace/bounce.
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The only Australian Test playing ground that has a drop-in pitch currently is the MCG, and the only other ground that will have one in the foreseeable future is Adelaide Oval, so the WACA would hardly be 'one of the only non drop-ins left in the country'
 
As sad as it is domestic T20 is the way cricket is going just like soccer & baseball. More money. So I would expect all T20 games at Perth stadium to maximize revenue.
 

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Kwality said:
revenue or profit will drive decision ?
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T20 is about to become the crown jewel in the tv rights. Cricket is about to be changed forever. Very sad for some, others will rejoice that the sport they love will fit into their lifestyle. I do believe this is what cricket authorities want, they will look at it as increased revenue & profits. CA will want the highest quality for what will be their marquee product. So that means they will want people to turn up in large in numbers & the WACA will not accommodate that. Just like today's T20 international being scheduled at ANZ stadium & not the SCG.
 
HPKS said:
T20 is about to become the crown jewel in the tv rights. Cricket is about to be changed forever. Very sad for some, others will rejoice that the sport they love will fit into their lifestyle. I do believe this is what cricket authorities want, they will look at it as increased revenue & profits. CA will want the highest quality for what will be their marquee product. So that means they will want people to turn up in large in numbers & the WACA will not accommodate that. Just like today's T20 international being scheduled at ANZ stadium & not the SCG.
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Not a fair comparison as Cricket doesnt own either ANZ or the SCG & a % goes to the stadium owner, the difference between revenue & profit - cricket owns the WACA.

Similar reason WA footy controls Pattos@Subi making profits easier to achieve.
 
Kwality said:
Not a fair comparison as Cricket doesnt own either ANZ or the SCG & a % goes to the stadium owner, the difference between revenue & profit - cricket owns the WACA.

Similar reason WA footy controls Pattos@Subi making profits easier to achieve.
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There's bound to be a crossover point somewhere that the WACA would earn more money from shifting a game to the new stadium than they'd get from a sellout at their own ground. If they expect a crowd of X or less the game stays at the WACA, if they expect a crowd of more than X they shift it to the new stadium.

I'm not game to guess what the X figure is because we don't know yet what the stadium contracts will be. But once that is known it should be a simple matter for the bean-counters to work out.
 
Admiral Byng said:
There's bound to be a crossover point somewhere that the WACA would earn more money from shifting a game to the new stadium than they'd get from a sellout at their own ground. If they expect a crowd of X or less the game stays at the WACA, if they expect a crowd of more than X they shift it to the new stadium.

I'm not game to guess what the X figure is because we don't know yet what the stadium contracts will be. But once that is known it should be a simple matter for the bean-counters to work out.
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This exactly what I'm saying. CA played yesterday's game at ANZ because it makes more money. 15000 @ the WACA will more than likely not come even close to the increased revenue or profit of say 40000 @ Perth stadium.
 
HPKS said:
This exactly what I'm saying. CA played yesterday's game at ANZ because it makes more money. 15000 @ the WACA will more than likely not come even close to the increased revenue or profit of say 40000 @ Perth stadium.
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That maybe true, but what's wrong with getting more people through the gates? Isn't one of the fundamental aims of a sporting organisation to get as many people watching as possible?
 

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