Wallaces' Decision - Richmond against Adelaide

[1980GFVideo]

With Terry Wallace perhaps having the choice of Adelaide and Richmond, What are some of advantages we might hold over Adelaide - against a major disadvantage - in some of the areas that the coach would take into account when selecting his preferred side???

Resources - Advantage Adelaide

Its hard to believe that our financial plight wont limit us in some way in the future when it comes to ability to pay full salary cap. This is the major point over any of the following as its the reason he left the Bulldogs. Wanting a couple of players in his last year that he felt were critical to the club and being told the by Smorgon that thier funds meant they couldn't get them seemed the final straw for Terry.

This was reported in the HS.

Salary-cap payments will be cut from 100 per cent to 97 per cent next season. And Miller has said the club wouldn't be in the market for a highly paid coach.

While Miller and Casey have been at pains to say they won't be running an undermanned operation, there are mixed messages here that would cause concerns for any prospective coach.

And money isn't the only cause for confusion. What of Miller's role? Is he, as Casey has said many times, the man who is responsible for evaluating the list? Or will the coach, as Miller has said, be the judge of which players stay and which ones go?

Some prospective applicants have indicated it is all as clear as mud. One said: "Before you go in there, there's a few things that need to be cleared up. You need to ask them how deep are the cuts and then you need to ask yourself: could you work under that regime?"

Another said: "Does it mean you have to go with one assistant coach less, or no rookies, or are you are restricted in going after uncontracted players?


Adelaide have no problems in that area.

Coaching Immortality - Advantage Richmond

Whilst a premiership is what Wallace needs to give him the coaching status of Sheedy and Pagan, the coach who can get Richmond to an era of finals football, even if we fell short of the cup given where we are now, would get Hafey like status. At Adelaide, they have won premierships not too long ago and therefore nothing less than that would satisfy them or set him apart.

Tough reliable midfielder - Advantage Richmond

Mark Riccutio is in the twilight of his career even though playing good football whereas ours - Mark Coughlan - is in the beginning of his.

End of season Support for previous coach - Advantage Richmond

Neil Craig might still be have his name chanted as he walks off Football Park at the end of the Crows' last game like Roos was. Unlikely to happen to Frawley unless crys of 'FREE' are mistaken for crys of 'FRAWLEY'

Affect on Family - Tie

Wallace looks like a pretty family conscious bloke and we would not have done ourselves any favours with some of the reactions after the Adelaide game. Then again Adelaide get pretty feral over there in regards to the way they speak of the coach when he is not performing.

History - Advantage Richmond

Wallace got along very well with Nathan Brown and must have some interest in being there for the remainder of his career given that he is one the leagues more exciting players who Wallace help jolt into action. Wallace played for Richmond for a year in 1987 but it didnt end to well and he has spoken of the bulldogs as really being a breath of fresh air. Not sure the full story of what happened between him and Richmond. No one at the club back then still there.

Uprooting to go to another state - None either way

Seemed prepared to do that in order to go to Sydney

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

great effort there video.IMO the reduction in the salary cap and the unstable envoirment atm compared to the crows will see wallace adelaide bound.


cheers!

 

[1980GFVideo]

Yeah after i read that quote in the Herald sun, Tiger of Old, it really had me searching hard for reasons as to why Wallace would overlook that.

 

[SaveFeriss]

Of course we are all presuming that Adelaide would want him!

They may well want someone from SA. If Richmond is the only job offered to Wallace I think he will take it.

IMO he's the pick of the experienced and available bunch.. Although Id be all out for Pagan if he was available.

 

[froars]

Add the word "challenge" to the criteria.
Wouldn't Richmond be the ultimate challenge for any coach?
You would think so.
Love to see an experienced coach be brave enough to take us on and risk everything.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Wallace has a house in West Lakes. Presumeably its an investment property.

Could be interesting.

With Sheedy out of the question, Wallace is my number 1.

 

[heartbroken]

Adelaide would also be a tough place to coach. They are a 2 team town. When they are doing badly, surely the supporters and the city itself would turn on the coach.

The other positive for Richmond is that Adelaide have committed to giving Neil Craig a chance. While Adelaide are sticking with Neil Craig, Richmond need to strike hard and fast. Adelaide will only be able to make a decision after the season. Richmond can make a decision before the season ends.

Adelaide has an aging list as well. In addition to losing Carey and Smart, Adelaide will lose Hart and Clarke in the next year or 2 and will lose Ricciouto shortly after. Therefore, I dont think their future is any brighter than ours.

The other thing for Wallace to think about is that he can only take Richmond upward. It is impossible for him to take the club further downhill. If for example he could get us into the 8 is the next season or 2, irrespective of whether we win a game in the finals or not, he would be considered to have done well.

Would this equally be the case at Adelaide or would they be expecting more?

If I were Richmond, I would also be telling Wallace about the tendancies of Adelaide to turn against non-South Australian coaches.

 

[Coach Required]

the only real chance we have of getting wallace is if the crows starting winning under Neil Craig. If the crows pulled out a miracle and won 8 of their last 9 games and made the finals it would be hard for them not to sign Craig up.

I have a feeling we will get Eade.

 

[corporal]

Originally posted by heartbroken

If I were Richmond, I would also be telling Wallace about the tendancies of Adelaide to turn against non-South Australian coaches.

As opposed to the tendancies of Richmond to turn against any coach,

At least we don't descriminate

 

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by corporal
As opposed to the tendancies of Richmond to turn against any coach,

At least we don't descriminate

We do a little bit corporal,

It took Richmond supporters a little longer to turn on Bartlett than it did with Frawley.

I remember a game against Fitzroy that finally had the faithful who loved KB finally give him a rousing boo at half time.

I wonder if Frawley will make a stance to not return to the club until directors resign?

 

[1980]

We give so much stick to Sheedy for playing us off whenever its time to renegotiate his contract with the bummers. But Wallace would be doing the same thing. He's been positioning himself to be considered for the RFC job since Rd4, giving coaching advice through the media etc.

I am sure, given his failed move to Sydney, his No1 choice is Adelaide and will use any Tigers offer to push up his price.

I would love him as coach, but hopefully he's not driving up the price we'll pay him.

 

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by 1980
He's been positioning himself to be considered for the RFC job since Rd4, giving coaching advice through the media etc.

Listening to him, I dont think he has really gone on about the Tigers in a way that would suggest he is priming himself for a coaching job.

That is considering that they are the team that a football expert commenting on the game would need to provide alot of critisism about to warrant his gig on radio. I got the feeling he was holding back a bit almost wary of seen to be ambulance chasing.

Ambulance chase all you want Terry. Nothing wrong with an Ambulance chaser if the patient comes out better as a result.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Originally posted by 1980GFVideo

I wonder if Frawley will make a stance to not return to the club until directors resign?

It's gonna be a quiet couple of hours for our 4 interchange players on Saturday night, isn't it ... and Dale Weightman won't even work up a sweat.

 

[1980GFVideo]

Originally posted by GhostofJimJess
It's gonna be a quiet couple of hours for our 4 interchange players on Saturday night, isn't it ... and Dale Weightman won't even work up a sweat.

An empty coaches box???

Yeah why not!!!!

Lets give it a go on Saturday night. We might as well try something new given the season is shot.

Lets see if Richmond can actually perform better without anybody in the coaches box. Interesting experiment.

Could improve us.

 

[Otto's ladder]

Or we could dress up some farm animals and put them in the coaches box. Results would be the same, and we'd be a fairly good chance at making one of those American sport shows "Plays of the Week".

 

[CJH]

The stated reduction in salary cap is not an AFL issued mandatory directive. It is a pragmatic reflection of the state of our list and it's capacity to win a premiership.

When we are a premiership team, then we can pay a list 100%. In the mean time, the payments must reflect reality.

This is distinct from the Bulldogs who had there management humming along very efficiently but without the horsepower to generate sufficient revenue.

If we ran our management as well as the Bulldogs, then we would be pulling $1m profits each year. Far greater critical mass.

As I also mentioned the other day, the cost of Wallace's salary is irrelevent. The marketing opportunities he provides ahead of any other candidate is huge. Just by being himself, he will pay his own way.