We are a top 4 side.

[Godfrey Jones]

Sydney
North Melbourne
Adelaide
Brisbane

We are better than all of them this year.

We are a young team heading in the right direction. Do you seriously expect them to win every single game? No of course not, so why be so upset when they drop a few??

The team has proven to have what it takes to compete with the best, and they are getting stronger.

We are heading in the right direction.

You can either come along or get left behind and go another way. But do me a favour, if we win the flag this year please do not celebrate with us.

P.S. This thread is directed to the mindless 'supporters' who come on here and suggest we start tanking or drafting away our players and write us off for the flag. There are however many more supporters who although have criticisms have sense and logic in their posts. This is in no way directed at you lot.

Keep your chin up guys.

 

[mattys123]

One side you left out there, StKilda, probably in better form then us and those 4 sides at the moment, luckily for us they have left their run too late.

We are a top 4 side, or at least we would be with a full un injured list.

It is now a fact that our depth is lacking in quality. Lose a few important players, (Rocca, Fraser, Leon), and our side lacks consistency.

We have a top 4 list, at the moment though, not a top 4 side.

I agree though, we are heading in the right direction, playing more and more high quality young players and finding out who is a long term solution (JA is now a certainty to play 100 + games).

 

[pipeline]

Sydney
North Melbourne
Adelaide
Brisbane

We are better than all of them this year.

We are a young team heading in the right direction. Do you seriously expect them to win every single game? No of course not, so why be so upset when they drop a few??

The team has proven to have what it takes to compete with the best, and they are getting stronger.

We are heading in the right direction.

You can either come along or get left behind and go another way. But do me a favour, if we win the flag this year please do not celebrate with us.

P.S. This thread is directed to the mindless 'supporters' who come on here and suggest we start tanking or drafting away our players and write us off for the flag. There are however many more supporters who although have criticisms have sense and logic in their posts. This is in no way directed at you lot.

Keep your chin up guys.

Well said God......frey. And to all the "we have no depth" whiners, you were saying that before Nath Brown popped up - and Jack Anthony - and Wellers, and you'll no doubt continue to say it as the others pop up. We played poorly last night and even though North are a bloody good team (they've beaten everyone of consequence except Geelong) they still didn't blow us off the park - and we have much more improvement than them - and depth.

 

[Snag Breac]

Well said. There were a lot of positives to last night's game.

Is it still possible for us to make the top 4?

 

[PendlePie]

Yep, anything's possible. The Dons game is a must win though, but I must say I'm feeling confident already ahead of that game.

 

[Medhurst Magic]

Well said. There were a lot of positives to last night's game.

Is it still possible for us to make the top 4?

Of course it is

As it stands we are only 1/2 a game behind Sydney. Carn the Blues 2moro

Our run home is pretty good, I would expect to win most of them bar the Hawthorn game, maybe dropping another one along the way as worst case scenario ( Maybe St Kilda or one of the interstate clashes).

It is not the end of the road guys just a slight hiccup..

 

[Rgs011]

Some good points Godfrey, I think the frustration we're facing is due to the fact the game we've dropped have been against rubbish sides (Nth & Carlton).

Surely if we're top 4 material, we shouldn't lose to these types of sides twice in the same season. We sometimes just don't look interested when we face them. They haven't really beaten us, we've been ordinary!

Saying that, I think we also have the "easiest" run home compared with Sydney and the other competitors for the forth spot...

But such is life in Collingwood, drop the easy ones, win the tough ones. Sometimes for us, 'life's like a box of chocolates'....

 

[lyfsux]

Of course it is

As it stands we are only 1/2 a game behind Sydney. Carn the Blues 2moro

Our run home is pretty good, I would expect to win most of them bar the Hawthorn game, maybe dropping another one along the way as worst case scenario ( Maybe St Kilda or one of the interstate clashes).

It is not the end of the road guys just a slight hiccup..

The way our season is going we might win this one

 

[smauge]

The way our season is going we might win this one

For sure!
And thanks for the possitive thread Godfrey - I'm so sick of supporters bagging us out at every loss. I guess I'm just a glass half full kinda girl!

 

[Godfrey Jones]

Well said. There were a lot of positives to last night's game.

Is it still possible for us to make the top 4?

Yes it is. Before the Sydney game I sat down and calculated the team's run home and made some predictions.

I predicted we would beat Sydney, Adelaide, but drop the game against North Melbourne because SHOCK HORROR!!! I can accept that we will not win them all. We must beat Essendon next week, because following that is Hawthorn which will be tough.

But Sydney have a much tougher run who will play Bulldogs, Geelong, and Us again, that should be three losses. Plenty of chances to overtake them

One loss against the roos is nothing to panick about. The sky is not falling. Dare I say it though, a loss next to Essendon could mean we've really blown our chances for top 4 - so there's still work to do. We're not there yet obviously

 

[Dave The Man]

Sydney
North Melbourne
Adelaide
Brisbane

We are better than all of them this year.

We are a young team heading in the right direction. Do you seriously expect them to win every single game? No of course not, so why be so upset when they drop a few??

The team has proven to have what it takes to compete with the best, and they are getting stronger.

We are heading in the right direction.

You can either come along or get left behind and go another way. But do me a favour, if we win the flag this year please do not celebrate with us.

P.S. This thread is directed to the mindless 'supporters' who come on here and suggest we start tanking or drafting away our players and write us off for the flag. There are however many more supporters who although have criticisms have sense and logic in their posts. This is in no way directed at you lot.

Keep your chin up guys.

Hope you are right but I need to see stuff better then the crap we served up last night

 

[Pies_10]

Yes it is. Before the Sydney game I sat down and calculated the team's run home and made some predictions.

I predicted we would beat Sydney, Adelaide, but drop the game against North Melbourne because SHOCK HORROR!!! I can accept that we will not win them all. We must beat Essendon next week, because following that is Hawthorn which will be tough.

But Sydney have a much tougher run who will play Bulldogs, Geelong, and Us again, that should be three losses. Plenty of chances to overtake them

One loss against the roos is nothing to panick about. The sky is not falling. Dare I say it though, a loss next to Essendon could mean we've really blown our chances for top 4 - so there's still work to do. We're not there yet obviously

Agrits no time to panic but how many times have i said that this year, Carltonx2, Northx2

 

[Thommo 42]

the ladder suggests otherwise unfortunately

 

[Godfrey Jones]

the ladder suggests otherwise unfortunately

the ladder is a distorted measurement since we dont play the same number of teams.

swans are fourth because of their incredibly easy run playing bottom 8 teams. after they finally played a good team (us), and the week after (forgot who they played against), they're being exposed.

 

[bucksisbest]

At this point in time it looks like whoever finishes in 4th spot will be a fairly average side , compared to the top 3 teams. Time will tell whether it ends up being us , or whether we even make the 8.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

At this point in time it looks like whoever finishes in 4th spot will be a fairly average side , compared to the top 3 teams. Time will tell whether it ends up being us , or whether we even make the 8.

Yeah, agreed. I'm not sure, at this point, how anyone could say we're clearly better than about three or four other sides who are similarly placed on the ladder. We may still squeak into fourth spot, but the same could be said for a bunch of other teams. While I think we ought to be better than North, the fact remains that they've beaten us fair and square twice this year and currently sit half a game behind us. You can't rate teams on coulda, woulda, shoulda, but only on what they do. And on what we've done, we are a long way short of the top three and solidly in the next bunch of four or five teams. No more, no less.

 

[chirpymagpie]

optomistic is the way to go

 

[Kirby]

Yeah, agreed. I'm not sure, at this point, how anyone could say we're clearly better than about three or four other sides who are similarly placed on the ladder. We may still squeak into fourth spot, but the same could be said for a bunch of other teams. While I think we ought to be better than North, the fact remains that they've beaten us fair and square twice this year and currently sit half a game behind us. You can't rate teams on coulda, woulda, shoulda, but only on what they do. And on what we've done, we are a long way short of the top three and solidly in the next bunch of four or five teams. No more, no less.

Once again, I couldn't agree with you more. Well put.

 

[joefootylover]

North have a good record against the top five; beat the Dogs, beat the Hawks, Drew with the Swans, beat us twice, lost to geelong by less than 3 goals, so they are not a team to be discounted.

The Saints have just beaten Hawthorn, and have a good run home.

We have beaten Geelong, so are capable of anything.

that 4th spot is thier for the taking and the top three would be foolish to think they are a 'long way' ahead of sides they drop games to.

Swans can secure 4th if they can beat some top eight teams, something they have struggled to do so far this season.

 

[Thommo 42]

the ladder is a distorted measurement since we dont play the same number of teams.

swans are fourth because of their incredibly easy run playing bottom 8 teams. after they finally played a good team (us), and the week after (forgot who they played against), they're being exposed.

We've dropped 2 games to Carlton, who wouldn't even be threatening the 8 if it weren''t for us.

We lost to the 10th placed Roos on Friday night. Outside that we've also played and beaten the rest of the bottom half of the ladder

 

[Dave The Man]

Well We are not now because the Scum loss to the Swans

 

[MilneyLoves2Snap]

Sydney
North Melbourne
Adelaide
Brisbane

We are better than all of them this year.

We are a young team heading in the right direction. Do you seriously expect them to win every single game? No of course not, so why be so upset when they drop a few??

The team has proven to have what it takes to compete with the best, and they are getting stronger.

We are heading in the right direction.

You can either come along or get left behind and go another way. But do me a favour, if we win the flag this year please do not celebrate with us.

P.S. This thread is directed to the mindless 'supporters' who come on here and suggest we start tanking or drafting away our players and write us off for the flag. There are however many more supporters who although have criticisms have sense and logic in their posts. This is in no way directed at you lot.

Keep your chin up guys.

Dont forget

 

[bomba4eva]

Collingwood do not deserve to be a top 4 side. Too inconsistent. Still quite a young side but too many gaps in the team which are yet to be filled. You need a FF. Lack the class and polish to be up there with the top 3 teams but it seems that there is no obvious 4th team this year. Sydney are susceptible and struggle to beat the good sides. You can be very good whilst poor also. If the Saints had pulled their finger out earlier Id have them a lock for 4th position.

 

[Seeks]

The loss to North has put paid to that. A team cannot expect to lose four matches against inferior opposition and expect to make the top-4. Three such losses was the maximum in my opinion, but not four. Some people have down played the loss by simply saying that Collingwood were "not switched on," and the loss "not effecting us too much," but the reality is that Sydney's win over Carlton means that the Swans are 6 points ahead again, so it has effected us heaps.

North's had a resonable record against all the top sides, actually better that resonable. Quite possibly we just under-rated them as does most of the football community.

Although as Collingwood supporters we don't like to admit it, but Carlton got within 2 points of the Swans today and they are young and on the improve and probably deserve a little more respect than we give them.

But we hate Carlton so we give them nothing!

So maybe those sides aren't all that inferior after all. Maybe we over-rate ourselves based on one really good performance.

Go Pies!

 

[KissStephanie]

Well said. There were a lot of positives to last night's game.

What were they? John Anthony was the only one I noticed. I have never bagged individual Collingwood players before, but I have absolutely no worries about criticising the team effort that has led to four losses against inferior opposition.

Is it still possible for us to make the top 4?

The loss to North has put paid to that. A team cannot expect to lose four matches against inferior opposition and expect to make the top-4. Three such losses was the maximum in my opinion, but not four. Some people have down played the loss by simply saying that Collingwood were "not switched on," and the loss "not effecting us too much," but the reality is that Sydney's win over Carlton means that the Swans are 6 points ahead again, so it has effected us heaps.

I think that Sydney will beat Adelaide at the SCG next week as well, so I can't see how Collingwood can make the top-4, and the premiership will be won from the top-4 as it always is under the current rules unfortunately. I hope I am proven wrong, but I always understood how critical the match against North was. It was a must win match, and it would have been okay to lose if they fought it out, but they didn't. It was a dirty night. St.Kilda's win and Sydney's win has not helped.

Dont forget

Surely you don't expect someone with such a ridiculous user name as yours to be taken seriously do you?

North's had a resonable record against all the top sides, actually better that resonable. Quite possibly we just under-rated them as does most of the football community.

Collingwood is better than North player for player in my opinion. The only way they could win is if Collingwood were "not switched on," and they weren't. They didn't want 4th spot as much as North wanted a spot in the top-8, and they weren't prepared to fight to the very end. That is the reality of the loss.

North are okay though, and they did beat Hawthorn and the Bulldogs, but I don't think they played to their best either. North are probably in their appropriate spot on the ladder, which is currently 8th. They should be a little lower than that if Collingwood had won one of the two matches against them this season.

Although as Collingwood supporters we don't like to admit it, but Carlton got within 2 points of the Swans today and they are young and on the improve and probably deserve a little more respect than we give them.

I'm not doubting that Carlton is a little better than recent seasons, but if you're suggesting that they are not an inferior team to Collingwood, then I completely disagree. To lose to them once is acceptable. To lose to them twice is inexcusable.

So maybe those sides aren't all that inferior after all. Maybe we over-rate ourselves based on one really good performance.

So what are you saying exactly? That Carlton and North aren't inferior to Collingwood, or that Carlton and North aren't all that inferior to Collingwood? I haven't overrated Collingwood at all. I am completely aware of what they can and can't achieve, and it's not based on one really good performance only. Collingwood is a team that is capable of beating any team and reaching the top-4 and winning the premiership if they put their mind to it.

They aren't Geelong though, so I don't expect Collingwood to win every week because of their pure skill. It's okay if they drop two matches, maybe three, that they should win. It is not okay to drop four matches that they should win. That is too many, and they should be better than that. To split the two matches against Carlton and North is definitely acceptable. To lose them all is not. If Collingwood had split them, then they would currently be 4th and 2 points ahead of Sydney.