We need Mitch Thorp as much as he needs Carlton

[starchamber]

Mitch Thorp can help Carlton so bad and it can help Thorp.Ratten said they need players who can kick.Thorp can thump the ball a long long way and has great skillls.

Ratten needs a player to possibly save his coaching career as it could blow up like a blowfish if we can't find more avenues to goal. Ratten and co need to look at him again.

The guy has 10 years of football in him and guys like Judd can set him straight about footy and winning. The guy isn't near 30 and can still get it together.

The rookie spot may be a good fit for both if his still available.

 

[Alpha1]

Are you lonely?

 

[starchamber]

Are you lonely?

No i'm totally Hot why are you lonely.

 

[starchamber]

Can you please stop making threads?

Or even better, just stop posting in general?

Every single post of yours makes us cringe.

So what don't read it or post into it if you don't like it.I'm a Carlton supporter and big footy is a free forum discussion on footy matters.

It's not like i start 20 topics a day. i may start a new one or 2 every few days or week. This is what big footy is all about or it would be called biggirltalk.

 

[AlecDuncan]

All in favour of changing the name of this site to BigGirlTalk, raise your hands.

 

[40yearBLUE]

According to many posters the guy has issues. I have not seen or read about him in the press, I dont recall him getting into trouble outside of footy but I take their words for it, and it would seem he has had injury issues. But if he were available to us and we chose him I am sure it would be after some serious due diligence, if available and we pass him it would be because he cant fit into our structure for whatever reason.

Its not a dumb thread but I doubt we will pick him.

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

Thanks for taking some of the heat Starchambers!

 

[BlueTouchPaper]

No i'm totally Hot why are you lonely.

POTY - First thing in a long while to make me laugh from BigFooty.

 

[Chism]

Mitch Thorp can help Carlton so bad and it can help Thorp.Ratten said they need players who can kick.Thorp can thump the ball a long long way and has great skillls.

Ratten needs a player to possibly save his coaching career as it could blow up like a blowfish if we can't find more avenues to goal. Ratten and co need to look at him again.

The guy has 10 years of football in him and guys like Judd can set him straight about footy and winning. The guy isn't near 30 and can still get it together.

The rookie spot may be a good fit for both if his still available.

All this from a guy that has played less than 5 AFL games in his whole career.

Just because he was drafted highly and rated as a youngster does not allways mean they will make the cut at AFL level. Not a chance in hell he will be playing with us.

 

[Dramoth]

He got delisted from the hawks with a year to go on his contract.

Have you wondered why starchamber?

It could be because he is mentally unsuited to playing football at the highest level or he doesnt learn from the mistakes he makes. If this is the case, we have just got rid of one person like that, why should we be looking at getting in someone with the same sort of attitude.

And Ratt's career as head coach is sound. He is doing a good job and will continue to get better.

 

[Gezim]

ratten we'l be fine. these r the times a coach shows wat he's really made of. this will tell us if ratts is a good coach with no fev

 

[jonoman89]

We need Mitch Thorp as much as i need to staple my scrotum to a park bench.

 

[BEINABLUE]

We need Mitch Thorp as much as i need to staple my scrotum to a park bench.

I have seen that done to ones own leg, i believe its called the butterfly. But a park bench, you may develop op dragging that baby around long enough

And back on topic, Forget Thorpe, His AFL career is over before it began

 

[The Exorcist]

Agree with 30 year blue, not a dumb thread.

However, relying on other reports, Mitch Thorp is not for mine.

The much reported attitude problems is the last thing Carlton needs. Nowadays having players with good team discipline is becoming more and more important (look at Geelong, St Kilda, Collingwood) than having raw talent.

As for Starchamber, who seems to be coping a fair bit of crap, well it is a forum and he is entitled to post what he likes on footy, provided, like the rest of us, it remains respectful to other posters.

 

[HBF]

As it has already been discussed, Thorpe is a headcase, and why would we replace one nutjob with another? Secondly, he is that injury prone, he just cannot get his body right for the rigours of AFL footy. And finally, it's not as though Hawthorn have tall defenders growing on trees out at Waverley. If he was such a good prospect, why would they delist him, especially with a year to go on his contract.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Topic has been covered before and I have stated this loud and clear. MITCH THORP HAS BROKEN HIS SESAMOID BONE, THIS RULED HIM OUT OF THE 2009 SEASON, HE HAS SINCE BEEN DELISTED, THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE.

For those that don't know, look at your foot, see the big toe joint, that ball like bone is the one he broke. That is a serious injury, similiar to the one that ended Adrian Whitehead's career. While it may not finish Thorp it will have significantly reduced his speed. You cannot run without placing pressue on that bone.

Attitude issues regardless, if you take this injury alongside a veritable plethora of other pre-existing niggles he has, it is not worth our time.

 

[AlecDuncan]

I've screwed up that joint myself. My surgeon (a Victoria House specialist) pushed for fusing it, saying that he'd done several footballers and that they could run fine afterwards. I can imagine you'd need to modify your running style - particularly sprinting.

 

[Pratt = Premiers]

He's training with Melbourne isn't he?? i'd be interested to hear how he is going there, whether is he training at 100% or not, how much this injury is holding him back.

I'm sick of hearing about his attitude problems though, yes, he might be a bit full of himself or have some attitude problems, but he is 20 years old, he is a kid. Fev was 28, and still acted like he was 20, that is the difference.

Hawthorn are far from the perfect role model club, their leaders such as Franklin, Lewis, Hodge and even Clarkson, far from angels themselves; how can you expect a kid who is a little off the rails to straighten up when these guys are your leaders.
Carlton, now, has a good bunch of leaders, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, McLean (yes he has had a few issues of his own, but i'd say he has now grown out of these) and Ratten is a calming influence i believe.

i would love Carlton to take a punt on Thorpe if his body is 100% or at least heading that way.

And believe it or not some people actually play better and have a better attitude when they are considered important to a clubs structure, at the hawks he was behind Franklin, Roughead and Williams; at Carlton he'd be our Full Forward or CHF and very important to our side, this could be a blessing.

anyway, really hope the guy comes good and sticks it up every blokes arse on here who bags him out because he's a kid acting like a kid.

 

[BlueFeaver]

Thorps issues from all reports spread futher than his body and his "confidence".

Word has it he has had numerous altercations with Team mates at Hawthorn............and not during practice games like most clubs.

He has apparently displayed no respect for his leadership group and demonstrated no willingness to learn.................I think the term use was acting like a 200 gamer!

Finally the apparent final piece of the puzzle is an over bearing family member who physically threatened someone within the club.

I do not know the full extent as to the severity of the last point and it amy well be rubbish..............but, I thought it was worth mentioning.

We should also not forget that if no one picks Thorpe up he will end up
on the mature age Rookie list at Hawthorn.

 

[iRemember87]

Mitch Thorp can help Carlton so bad and it can help Thorp.Ratten said they need players who can kick.Thorp can thump the ball a long long way and has great skillls.

Ratten needs a player to possibly save his coaching career as it could blow up like a blowfish if we can't find more avenues to goal. Ratten and co need to look at him again.

The guy has 10 years of football in him and guys like Judd can set him straight about footy and winning. The guy isn't near 30 and can still get it together.

The rookie spot may be a good fit for both if his still available.

So you start your second thread about Carlton needing Thorp.

Like i told you last time, the guy is a knob, the Hwaks delisted him for a reason, if he is such a good player why would they let him go?? Because he has attitude and discipline problems. We got rid of Fev for the same reasons and don't need another virus at the club.

Starchamber get over it...nobody is listening.

 

[LoveMyBlueBoys]

So what don't read it or post into it if you don't like it.I'm a Carlton supporter and big footy is a free forum discussion on footy matters.

It's not like i start 20 topics a day. i may start a new one or 2 every few days or week. This is what big footy is all about or it would be called biggirltalk.

I detest this comment

 

[parrot]

While we don't need Thorp, IF his injury and attitude isn't as bad as the rumours suggest, we should obviously consider him. I'm sure the Club has good information on those issues. I was actually surprised that no one took him in the ND, even with a very late pick in a weak draft. Perhaps that's a statement of what Clubs think.

 

[GoBlues!]

You can't be serious. For one thing Hawthorn are in no position to be discarding 20 y.o. good players for no good reason - maybe he's not that good. And if he's got attitude problems, they must be pretty bad to give up after 3 years. We just got rid of one DH we don't want to start all over again.

 

[Malifice]

Im not opposed to spending a rookie selection on him. Panos too.

Not like we're losing much if either doesn't work out.

 

[Rumblah#16]

Thorp, if his body was 100% is definitely a talent. From what I know, one of his knees is in bad shape, as is his left ankle, and right shoulder from memory.

There's also a lot of arrogance from the kid, which is great, provided you can actually get out on the park to prove the doubters wrong, something Mitch was not able to do at Hawthorn.

His very first day at the club, he got into a spout with Grant Birchall. Thorp asked 'what pick in the draft were you?' with a cheeky grin on his face, to which Birchall replied 'how many games have you played?'

Thorp has all the tools needed to make a great FF/CHF, but ever since he was a junior he's been told he is a star, thus giving him a HUGE head. His delistment wasn't due to injuries, Mitchell and a few senior Hawthorn players went and had a private conversation with Clarkson and a couple of list managers, (I assume Thorp's manager, Liam Pickering was involved as well) and the players came forward and said they weren't happy with Thorp's progress, both as an AFL footballer, and as a person. All parties agreed that a move was the best option.

Personally, I still want to see Thorp make it, because I always believed, given the chance he could have added yet another dimension to our forward line. Definitely not the worst pick-up.