What a joke !!!!

[EagleBlue]

Just read that the ICC (Incompetent Cricket Council) have announced new penalties for slow over rates in ODI and Test Matches.

"THE burden of cricket captaincy increased this week with the introduction of financial penalties for slow over rates in one-day internationals.

Teams that do not complete their 50 overs in the 3 and a 1/2-hour period (plus allowances given by the referee) face the loss of 5 per cent of their match fee.
The penalty is doubled for the captain of the bowling side.

If the shortfall is more than two overs, the captain will also be charged with a level 2 breach of the ICC code of conduct for deliberate time-wasting. This will result in a disciplinary hearing with possible penalties of a fine of between 50 and 100 per cent of his match fee and/or a two-match ban from one-day internationals.

The penalty of reducing the overs for a team batting second that failed to complete its overs in the allotted time has been removed. The principles of the new approach will also apply in Tests, with the penalties coming into effect after five rather than two overs.

This week's opening match of the Sharjah Cup between Pakistan and Zimbabwe was the first played under the ICC code of conduct incorporating new penalties for slow over rates.

The amendments reflect a decision taken at the ICC cricket committee management meeting in South Africa in February, which indicated it wanted allocated action to be completed for the paying public.

The decision places a big burden on the captain, who has been held custodian of the game's ethics for many years. The financial penalty should ensure players, led by a more vigilant captain, do not waste time or use slow over rates as a tool to thwart opposing teams".




Excuse me but when will the ICC learn that fines alone do NOT work. Penalties of runs/overs DO. Why dont they try this in test matches. Say 5 runs added on for every over not bowled in the allotted time. At the discretion of the Match referee of course so the batting side does not take advantage of the situation.

 

[red+black]

this is old news. it was announced some time ago due to the inequity of a team losing overs if they bowl first and bowl slow, whereas the team bowling second would only cop a fine. i'm not saying that the solution should be a pure monetary fine, but the inequity could not be allowed to continue.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by red+black
this is old news. it was announced some time ago due to the inequity of a team losing overs if they bowl first and bowl slow, whereas the team bowling second would only cop a fine. i'm not saying that the solution should be a pure monetary fine, but the inequity could not be allowed to continue.

Agree with that. I can't understand why they persisted with one set of rules for the team bowling first, another set of rules for the team bowling second for so many years.

The domestic one-day competition did introduce a runs penalty for the team bowling second. The team batting second would recieve six extra runs for every over the team bowling second was overdue. Sounds ok, except that the penalty is introduced after the match so the team has no way of trying to make up for it. Unlike when a team bowling first falls short in their overs - the penalty is introduced mid match - so they're still given the rest of the match to make up for their mistake (i.e. by chasing at a faster rate). It also means in a close game where the team batting second has just fallen short the game is decided by the match referee. There was a match late in the 2001/02 season, NSW won a close game against WA by a margin between 1 and 5 runs and went well over time in bowling their overs, however the match referee didn't have the balls to penalise them and award the match to WA. (yes I'm bitter as a NSW loss would have put SA into the final )

Now they've changed it to a points penalty, which is more sensible IMO as it's the same for both sides. My only fear is the possible inconsistencies in applying this rule - i.e. how much 'allowances' are made by some match refs.

I believe the domestic womens one-day competition has a system where for every over they are short in the second innings they have to bowl an extra over. Again, I'm less sure of the merits of this, particularly when a team going for broke at the end could be all out and then discover they could have faced extra overs.

It's all very well to say there should be score penalties for slow over rates but I tink when you consider what the options are, they tend to be unfair, inconsistent, or just plain terrible.

Originally posted by EagleBlue
Excuse me but when will the ICC learn that fines alone do NOT work. Penalties of runs/overs DO. Why dont they try this in test matches. Say 5 runs added on for every over not bowled in the allotted time. At the discretion of the Match referee of course so the batting side does not take advantage of the situation.

So if say, England are chasing a total of 200 in the final innings of a test, and Australia bowl them out for 198 in a thrilling finish. Then the match referee decides Australia were one over short in bowling their overs. England's score is adjusted to 203 runs and they win the match. The match has been decided after the last ball has been bowled; and the on field winners are now the losers. This doesn't seem like a good outcome to me.

Stick to monetary fines. Yes, it sucks if this isn't enough to deter slow cricket but I'm not convinced there's a fairer way to go about it.

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

Originally posted by EagleBlue
Just read that the ICC (Incompetent Cricket Council) have announced new penalties for slow over rates in ODI and Test Matches.

"THE burden of cricket captaincy increased this week with the introduction of financial penalties for slow over rates in one-day internationals.

Teams that do not complete their 50 overs in the 3 and a 1/2-hour period (plus allowances given by the referee) face the loss of 5 per cent of their match fee.
The penalty is doubled for the captain of the bowling side.

If the shortfall is more than two overs, the captain will also be charged with a level 2 breach of the ICC code of conduct for deliberate time-wasting. This will result in a disciplinary hearing with possible penalties of a fine of between 50 and 100 per cent of his match fee and/or a two-match ban from one-day internationals.

The penalty of reducing the overs for a team batting second that failed to complete its overs in the allotted time has been removed. The principles of the new approach will also apply in Tests, with the penalties coming into effect after five rather than two overs.

This week's opening match of the Sharjah Cup between Pakistan and Zimbabwe was the first played under the ICC code of conduct incorporating new penalties for slow over rates.

The amendments reflect a decision taken at the ICC cricket committee management meeting in South Africa in February, which indicated it wanted allocated action to be completed for the paying public.

The decision places a big burden on the captain, who has been held custodian of the game's ethics for many years. The financial penalty should ensure players, led by a more vigilant captain, do not waste time or use slow over rates as a tool to thwart opposing teams".




Excuse me but when will the ICC learn that fines alone do NOT work. Penalties of runs/overs DO. Why dont they try this in test matches. Say 5 runs added on for every over not bowled in the allotted time. At the discretion of the Match referee of course so the batting side does not take advantage of the situation.

It will teach the teams a lesson in it EagleBlue. Just don't go slowly when bowling.

 

[jordy23]

kool

 

[red+black]

women should be able to get through 50 overs in the allotted time. don't they usually bowl 30 maidens or so in 50 overs?

entertaining stuff.