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Originally posted by Borgsta
Dwyane Wade is a damn good player but by no means a gun, YET! But whilst we are on Dwyane if he is already a gun as you suggest than why cant Nelson lead the Magic team in his first season? After all, this was Dwyane's first year!




Oh so you are backtracking already. No star center actually means no star big man. Thats ludicrous, so basically in your first statement you said no team can succeed unless they have either a gun big man or a gun small man. Tell me if they dont have a gun big or a gun small, what the **** else can they have? a gun medium player?




Hamilton is the closest thing to a gun that the Pistons have, but he is no PG, which is what you said. Dont confuse gun with good.


Dwayne Wade was a #5 pick, not a #20 pick, you'd expect him to start and play well (which he does).
Nelson may very well step up and star but without Francis, if he failed,
the magic would be without a decent point guard, which is risky.

Don't be foolish to say that Billups and Wallace are not guns, they are awesome players, you made a
mistake with that call. I never mentioned anything about point guards here, i was simply replying to
your statement that the pistons have no guns.

Lets say if the Magic did do a trade for Marion and Johnson, and they rely on Nelson and Howard to be fantastic
players. If Nelson and Howard underperform, you're relying on Marion and Johnson to carry the team, which didn't
work at Phoenix this year.

In response to the player sizes, what i'm really trying to emphasize is that all good NBA teams this year had at
least a gun point guard, or a gun big man, and when I say big I mean the likes of KG, Duncan, J.Oneal, when I say
small men I mean Kidd, Cassell, Francis etc,

The Magic/Suns trade would leave the Magic with two small forwards in Joe Johnson and Marion, but no star
point guard/power forward or centre, you can't make a team with that.
 
Originally posted by markzanotti
Dwayne Wade was a #5 pick, not a #20 pick, you'd expect him to start and play well (which he does).
Nelson may very well step up and star but without Francis, if he failed,
the magic would be without a decent point guard, which is risky.

Don't be foolish to say that Billups and Wallace are not guns, they are awesome players, you made a
mistake with that call. I never mentioned anything about point guards here, i was simply replying to
your statement that the pistons have no guns.

Lets say if the Magic did do a trade for Marion and Johnson, and they rely on Nelson and Howard to be fantastic
players. If Nelson and Howard underperform, you're relying on Marion and Johnson to carry the team, which didn't
work at Phoenix this year.

In response to the player sizes, what i'm really trying to emphasize is that all good NBA teams this year had at
least a gun point guard, or a gun big man, and when I say big I mean the likes of KG, Duncan, J.Oneal, when I say
small men I mean Kidd, Cassell, Francis etc,

The Magic/Suns trade would leave the Magic with two small forwards in Joe Johnson and Marion, but no star
point guard/power forward or centre, you can't make a team with that.

Nelson was projected to go a heck of a lot higher than No. 20, add that to the fact that he won college player of the year and you would expect him to produce a bit.

Dont think that Billups is a gun because of what he did to Payton, end of. Wallace is close to being a gun, but purely because he has no offence I wont put him in that category yet. BTW my original statement about them was based on your PG and C theory.

Players sizes = cool, np

you might not be able to make a team straight away but if you flunk again you get another top 5 draft pick (most likely). with JJ at SG and Marion on the wing we might have had a healthy G. Hill who would run the point anyway.
 
Houston has to be pretty happy. Whenever you can aquire a legitimate top 5 player in the world without losing your best player (Yao) in the deal....well you have to be happy.

A steal, even though I think Orlando will go alright with Cato, Francis and Marbury and lets all hope Hill finally makes a healthy return, the poor bastard.
 

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