Who should replace Nathan Lyon?

[Ohitsthatguy]

Kuhnemann is also the only one with a central contract so it would make sense

 

[Retzlaff]

Jason Krejza

 

[Matrix10]

Gideon made an interesting comment that Kuhnemann’s “face fits” in the current team.

Reckons they will go with him and in any case will go with a player who has done test experience already.

Murphy also has Test experience. Murphy in , will grow with the team ala Lyon .

 

[Black Diamond]

Murphy also has Test experience. Murphy in , will grow with the team ala Lyon .

The fitting in part was the interesting comment.

 

[Kram]

Jason Krejza

 

[big_e]

Kuhnemann is also the only one with a central contract so it would make sense

Makes no difference to test selection.

 

[Jack Mundy]

Gideon made an interesting comment that Kuhnemann’s “face fits” in the current team.

Reckons they will go with him and in any case will go with a player who has done test experience already.

Bizarre

 

[Gethelred]

Rocchicioli's trajectory - which is how you take wickets here - coupled with his height means that he's very hard to dance to and very hard to pick whether to go front or back to. If you look at his wickets, there's a few common threads: catches at slip/keeper from a half shot not going forward or back.

Essentially, what you're getting from him is the equivalent to Josh Hazlewood as a spinner, a bowler where you're always in two minds.

I genuinely have no idea how Matt Kuhnemann takes wickets. I first saw him a few years back watching the shield on a deck doing a bit, and I thought he looked juicy; the sort of bowler who if you're careful you can just take for a gentle 2-3 runs an over without risk, and if you're in and going for 4 singles pretty comfortably. Gets reasonable dip, turns it away from the right hander but very little, gets through his overs quickly. But then, he also has the weird knack - something he shares with another left arm spinner in Noman Ali of Pakistan, who I also feel looks pretty placid - of picking up bags of wickets when you don't really think he's bowled all that well. If we go this way, we're getting a holding bowler rather than a striker akin to SA's Maharaj, with the occasional bag when he gets a run on.

Todd Murphy's a different sort of fingerspinner to most produced in Australian conditions. The other two are overspinners who can turn the ball but sacrifice big turn for dip, where Murphy is more a sidespinner who uses drift and dip at alternates to produce different effects. He's more likely to produce a jaffa than either of the other two, but he's also a tinge riskier; side spin fingerspinners get carted in Australia.

If Rocchicioli's the equivalent to Hazlewood, Murphy's the equivalent to James Anderson; someone capable of the impossible ball in the right conditions, but a bit vulnerable away from them.

I like Rocchicioli the most out of the three, but there's a case to be made for each of them.

 

[Jack Mundy]

Rocchicioli's trajectory - which is how you take wickets here - coupled with his height means that he's very hard to dance to and very hard to pick whether to go front or back to. If you look at his wickets, there's a few common threads: catches at slip/keeper from a half shot not going forward or back.

Essentially, what you're getting from him is the equivalent to Josh Hazlewood as a spinner, a bowler where you're always in two minds.

I genuinely have no idea how Matt Kuhnemann takes wickets. I first saw him a few years back watching the shield on a deck doing a bit, and I thought he looked juicy; the sort of bowler who if you're careful you can just take for a gentle 2-3 runs an over without risk, and if you're in and going for 4 singles pretty comfortably. Gets reasonable dip, turns it away from the right hander but very little, gets through his overs quickly. But then, he also has the weird knack - something he shares with another left arm spinner in Noman Ali of Pakistan, who I also feel looks pretty placid - of picking up bags of wickets when you don't really think he's bowled all that well. If we go this way, we're getting a holding bowler rather than a striker akin to SA's Maharaj, with the occasional bag when he gets a run on.

Todd Murphy's a different sort of fingerspinner to most produced in Australian conditions. The other two are overspinners who can turn the ball but sacrifice big turn for dip, where Murphy is more a sidespinner who uses drift and dip at alternates to produce different effects. He's more likely to produce a jaffa than either of the other two, but he's also a tinge riskier; side spin fingerspinners get carted in Australia.

If Rocchicioli's the equivalent to Hazlewood, Murphy's the equivalent to James Anderson; someone capable of the impossible ball in the right conditions, but a bit vulnerable away from them.

I like Rocchicioli the most out of the three, but there's a case to be made for each of them.

Nathan Lyon, Steve O'Keefe, Tim May

 

[Gethelred]

Nathan Lyon, Steve O'Keefe, Tim May

Mark Craig, Graeme Swann, Keshav Maharaj.

There is a marked difference between finger spinners that work here and those that don't, and it can essentially be represented by whether they bowl with overspin or sidespin.

Just to clarify, this isn't just me saying it. He lists more bowlers than I have.