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Why would you bring in shannon byrnes for varcoe?
He cant kick or find the footy plus wouldn't lay a tackle if his life depended on it! Maybe bit harsh but trav adds alot to our forward line and i think this is a step backwards.
Thoughts?
 
Byrnes can't find the footy?? He can definately find the pill better than Varcoe can at the moment. I am actually happy with the inclusion - I can't see any reason why Byrnes can't apply the same forward pressure as Varcoe has been. And even if we bring Varcoe back for the finals or something, he will have got a good kick up the butt and be raring to go at the next opportunity. Good move Bomber! :thumbsu:
 

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finrod said:
Byrnes can't find the footy?? He can definately find the pill better than Varcoe can at the moment. I am actually happy with the inclusion - I can't see any reason why Byrnes can't apply the same forward pressure as Varcoe has been. And even if we bring Varcoe back for the finals or something, he will have got a good kick up the butt and be raring to go at the next opportunity. Good move Bomber! :thumbsu:
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I can. Varcoe has been the best at it in the competition. I don't mind Byrnes generally, but I feel this is a step backwards. When King comes in it will be the same.
 
A forward who gets the pill and might snag a few behinds
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A forward who lays a large amount of tackles, but doesnt really get it enough
 
Byrnes has been in the best in the 2s for the last couple of weeks now... give him a chance please! (lol maybe I should change my nickname to *Byrnes_girl and I can be *koula_girl's twin sister).
 
lohnro said:
we still won last week without varcoe contributing, atleast byrnes will kick a few behinds!
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i like your thinking!!
Too everyone sitting on level one tmrw night at both the lockett and coventry end especially in the forward pockets i seriously fear for your safety.
Please think before you go tmrw and pack some type of shield because if shannon is running into goal after having two bounces down the wing...... LOOK OUT!!!!!:o
 
S "Thinks He's Daicos" J said:
I can. Varcoe has been the best at it in the competition. I don't mind Byrnes generally, but I feel this is a step backwards. When King comes in it will be the same.
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I don't think Varcoe has been keeping his work rate high enough the last couple few games.. Hopefully he'll take the positives out of this and come back a more consistent player, after all he's still very young.

From reports Byrnes has been performing well in the reserves so I can't really see a problem.. Obviously if Byrnes contributes little he gets shipped back.
 
Good on ya Byrnes... get in there and show everyone why I love ya!!!

I really hope he's definitely in the team and not withdrawn later on for an unknown reason.
 

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kinggaz29 said:
i like your thinking!!
Too everyone sitting on level one tmrw night at both the lockett and coventry end especially in the forward pockets i seriously fear for your safety.
Please think before you go tmrw and pack some type of shield because if shannon is running into goal after having two bounces down the wing...... LOOK OUT!!!!!:o
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LOL! Ahh, little Shannon Byrnes. "E's a beewdiful kick at goal." </phil cleary>

He touches the ball 20 odd times a match and kicks 1 goal 3. If he turns that around, collecting 20 possies and kicking 3 goals 1, he's a genius. So far this year, he's kicked 2.5; last year it was 3.11. Anyone wanna stab at this week's effort? He deserves a spot on VFL form, when Trav's been a little quiet.

I hope Bomber challenges Varcoe to scream for the ball in his return to the VFL. Give him license to wave his arms around and spray team-mates who don't pass to him, shake his reactive playing style, even if the confidence is manufactured.
 
this has actually pis sed me off bringing in byrnes for varcoe why change a winning team? he adds so much to our team little varks and byrnes adds nothing!! bad move real bad move!!
 
sarbbo said:
A lot of what he does doesn't end up on the stat sheets. He's been prematurely dropped several times, what's bomber got against him?
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Several times? Only after his second game in Rd 3, and he was straight back in the following week.

Bomber hasn't got anything against Trav, in fact he respects his defensive work inside our forward line. The Coach is only keeping a close eye on players who are showing signs of lethargy, that's all.
 
sarbbo said:
A lot of what he does doesn't end up on the stat sheets. He's been prematurely dropped several times, what's bomber got against him?
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Varcoe is still very young and although he's put in some good performances has not been consistant enough to warrant a permanent spot in our team.

Byrnes deserves a go because of his good reserves form and if Varcoe is as good as you think, he'll use this to his advantage and come back a better, hungrier player.
 

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CatFan79 said:
Varcoe is still very young and although he's put in some good performances has not been consistant enough to warrant a permanent spot in our team.

Byrnes deserves a go because of his good reserves form and if Varcoe is as good as you think, he'll use this to his advantage and come back a better, hungrier player.
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Hope you're right, though with the awesome form we're in it'll be bloody hard to break back in to the team if he's out for any length of time.
 
In the one game where we need defensive pressure in our forwardline, we go and drop the best exponent of it in the league. Go figure. Byrnes may get it a lot more than Varcoe, but what's the use of getting the pill if half the time he gives it straight up again? Absolutely pathetic selection IMO.
 
winty said:
In the one game where we need defensive pressure in our forwardline, we go and drop the best exponent of it in the league. Go figure. Byrnes may get it a lot more than Varcoe, but what's the use of getting the pill if half the time he gives it straight up again? Absolutely pathetic selection IMO.
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Varcoe has been the best exponent of forward line defensive pressure but his lack of interest and commitment to contests in the past 2 weeks screams the typical signs of a young player who needs a run in the 2's.

Byrnes knows he'll have to make the most of this chance or his career at the club will be questioned.

I can see the justification for this selection.
 
CatFan79 said:
Varcoe has been the best exponent of forward line defensive pressure but his lack of interest and commitment to contests in the past 2 weeks screams the typical signs of a young player who needs a run in the 2's.

Byrnes knows he'll have to make the most of this chance or his career at the club will be questioned.

I can see the justification for this selection.
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I highly doubt it'd be a lack of interest on Trav's part. Like has been suggested elsewhere, other clubs have worked him out and block him out a lot, plus the fact he was recovering from the flu last week might seem he lacks interest, but I've seen him still dart about and attempt to contest. He may not apply as much direct pressure as he has before the Essendon game, but the perceived pressure he creates is just as good.
 
Why does this forum have such a soft spot for Varcoe? He was good for a while, but has massively overstayed his welcome. Had a few of Byrnesy's kicks been a few meters left or right, you'd all have been singing his praises. You rubbish King and say he must earn his spot through the VFL. Well hasn't Byrnes earnt a spot in this manner?

If Byrnes played the football he has been in the VFL and didn't receive a call up in place of Varcoe, who has done nothing over the past few weeks, then the senior guys would get complacent. If their spot is not at risk then they will stop performing. It happened last year with guys like Ling, when Thompson refused to drop them.

Yes, we have been winning, but its been far from convincing. Varcoe, in my mind has definately been one of the weak links in our squad.

Also, why should we replace a fast forward pocket for a 'deceptively quick'/slow tall forward as has been suggested by some is beyond me. If anyone can play Varcoes role, then Byrnes is the man. We always make the same mistake when we play against the Bulldogs. We try and push them for height and fill our forward line up with talls. They kill us with run out of the backline and make us look slow and lumbering. This IMO caters for the Dogs favoured style of play.
 
It is possible that Varcoe is still a bit run down from the flu.

Varcoe has kicked more goals and has more score assists this year than Byrnes has in his entire career.
 

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