Why Richmond MUST WIN this week

[lids2004roar]

(*I posted this at YnB.com and thought it would be worth reposting here)



Richmond MUST not get the PP this year.

With a lot of thought I have realised how deep the psychological effects of winning to knowingly miss out on the PP and avoid the spoon can have.

I myself have sometimes done a Kouta and hoped we get the picks. But I have done a lot of thought on how this issue will affect the future and I am now hell-bent on winning this week.

We must win.

It is a statement to the rest of the AFL. "We don't give a **** about tanking for PPs, Richmond are winners, Richmond are proud, Richmond are MIGHTY so WATCH OUT"

Culture.

This has been our deathbed for the last 25 years. We have constantly talked about how we need to change our culture. In just one game we finally have the chance to completely turn our club into having a success-driven WINNING culture mentallity.

Finally.

If Richmond and Carlton play in a Grand Final in 4 years or so then Terry will be able to bring 2007 up - especially if Richmond win and don't get the PP.

If we win and don't get the PP then sure, we miss out on a player.

But can you imagine how much pride the players would have in the future? Carlton supporters and ex-players are desperately hoping they lose and don't give a **** about winning.

These kind of attitudes can be rekindled in the future and used as ammunition in future finals.



If you are unemployed you can hold your hand out and receive benefits or you can get out there and work hard for your money. If you work hard you might only make the same amount you'd make by holding out your hand anyway, but are you telling me there isn't a difference in HOW you earn your money? Your mentallity is everything.

We must win this week. We can not have 44 players training in a soft culture where the cornerstone of success is looking around in hope that somebody ELSE will hand you the magic key.

We need to win this week because we need a culture where we look only towards ourselves to bring success, where we block out all outside influences and focus on one thing - to be winners.

 

[lids2004roar]

Comment towards a Carlton fan:

It's not just about the pain of losing one game.

It is about being on your knees and begging someone else to bring you the magic key instead of bringing it upon yourself and only yourself to bring your team success. Holding out your hand for benefits won't bring you a flag.

It is about culture.

Can we sticky this thread? It is a VERY important issue for our club and it needed to be put into words.

 

[Saul Hudson]

I totally agree benny!

I think we need to win this week for the club to go forward. It would provide great impetus for the future.

Only a few weeks ago the RFC was labelled a disgrace, the worst side in the history of the game, that the kids were no good and there was no light at the end of the tunnel.

The sense of achievement of lifting themselves off the bottom of the ladder and avoiding the wooden spoon after being flogged through the media and football circles in such a way would do more for the future than a extra draft pick in the top twenty who according to the 'experts' we would probably stuff up anyway.

Hopefully the players can carry a fighting spirit and a renewed confidence in themselves that can only be gained through winning into next season and beyond.

The most important thing for the RFC is to learn how to be winners again.

 

[PHX]

I dont know about MUST WIN because St Kinda has the complete wood on us but yes we have to 100% take it up to them.

 

[Ando_4]

I'd say that's just about your best post ever benny.

Send it over to PRE too.

 

[Tiger67]

I'd say that's just about your best post ever benny.

Send it over to PRE too.

Great post Benny.
I wasn't that fussed as to whether we won or not this week but you have just convinced me that winning this game would be the most positive statement from the RFC for many a long year.

 

[_RT_]

A win this week against a team that has had the wood over us for the last few years would be a great boost for the kids, knowing they can compete with a good team and beat them, and those older players that have suffered at the hands of the Saints finally getting the monkey off their back as well.

It seems that Terry is not just using the win at all costs message as just spin to please the supporters but also giving the players the belief that even though we are sitting on 3.5 wins at this stage of the year he has not given up, like the staff at another club have done.

While the win might be seen in football circles as a stupid thing to do considering we would lose a player it could well just be the thing that helps the side turn the corner finally and brings forward the 2011 plan Wallace is currently working to.

 

[tugga]

A win this week against a team that has had the wood over us for the last few years would be a great boost for the kids, knowing they can compete with a good team and beat them, and those older players that have suffered at the hands of the Saints finally getting the monkey off their back as well.

It seems that Terry is not just using the win at all costs message as just spin to please the supporters but also giving the players the belief that even though we are sitting on 3.5 wins at this stage of the year he has not given up, like the staff at another club have done.

While the win might be seen in football circles as a stupid thing to do considering we would lose a player it could well just be the thing that helps the side turn the corner finally and brings forward the 2011 plan Wallace is currently working to.

Agree with many things you say RT, but you, and anyone else, is kidding themselves if you think one win can turn around the club's fortunes.
Quality and player depth is the only thing. Wonder where we get that from

 

[_RT_]

Agree with many things you say RT, but you, and anyone else, is kidding themselves if you think one win can turn around the club's fortunes.
Quality and player depth is the only thing. Wonder where we get that from

I don't think the one win will turn the club around but it is more the fact the last 3 weeks has seen the club take the first steps in turning the corner. As I said it could be the thing that helps the side turn the corner, I realise there are other things that need to fall into place for that to happen. But winning games is a great way to start regardless of how meaningless they may seem.

 

[Koutafidamedis]

Can your team just win when you want to? and all this time i just thought you were crap

 

[Roachy8]

I don't think the one win will turn the club around but it is more the fact the last 3 weeks has seen the club take the first steps in turning the corner. As I said it could be the thing that helps the side turn the corner, I realise there are other things that need to fall into place for that to happen. But winning games is a great way to start regardless of how meaningless they may seem.

Not having a winning culture was what caused us to not nail a few winnable games earlier this year. How many game reports contained the phrase - "they did not know how to ice the game"?
You can't just turn a winning culture on or off when you feel like it so in my mind, there is simply no better way to gain confidence, learn how to be winners and start to feel like you have turned the corner than to keep winning.
We must go all out for a win this week... spoons & draft picks will look after themselves.

 

[Tigerdream]

Can your team just win when you want to? and all this time i just thought you were crap

You're calling us crap.......had a look at your own side lately. We may not be too flash but at least we still have enough pride and dignity left to go out and compete each week, unlike your not-so-good selves.

 

[DDTiger]

Can your team just win when you want to? and all this time i just thought you were crap

your boys won a game recently?

we've gone two from our last three.

 

[_RT_]

Can your team just win when you want to? and all this time i just thought you were crap

No our team can't win when they want to but at least they don't go out knowing they will lose intentionally.

Let me clear it up for you.

Poor = 1 year in the bottom 4 see Richmond or Melbourne

Crap = successive years in the bottom 4 see Carlton.

 

[NQTIGER]

No our team can't win when they want to but at least they don't go out knowing they will lose intentionally.

Let me clear it up for you.

Poor = 1 year in the bottom 4 see Richmond or Melbourne

Crap = successive years in the bottom 4 see Carlton.

Realistic you finally made sense great post, shut those carlton scum up

 

[Darth_Tiger]

nice work benny. lets go out there and take it right up to em!

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Great stuff Benny. I desperately want this win

 

[Weaver]

For all the talk of draft picks, we win this week and we can hand Carlton their 4th wooden spoon in 7 years. For a team which had never won one prior to 2002 you have to impressed by how well they have taken to it

Carlton will go to 5 spoons vs Richmond's 5. Our spoon in 1917 doesn't count because in that war year only 6 teams were in the comp.

For all our ineptness over these last 25 years - we have only picked up 3 spoons since 1960.

You ain't a Richmond supporter if that isn't motivation enough to win.

 

[telsor]

You ain't a Richmond supporter if that isn't motivation enough to win.

Maybe I'm just not a good enough hater, but I want Richmond to win because it's a game of football, and I want Richmond to win them all.

That this means Richmond wont win the spoon is an added motivation.

I don't give a rats about the effect it has on any other club.

 

[smasha]

I went to training and was delighted by the mood and vigour of the players.


They all looked so positive,lots of running and Cogs was running laps!.

Kingy and Thursty were doing light work.


Tuck was trying torps.

Lidds kicking was great.

I feel a win or a very hard crack at the very least.

Go Tiges!

 

[roostertalk]

Post of the year Benny, the fact it is our bogey team only adds to what excitement we could be expecting from next season.

 

[deliberate!!]

Can your team just win when you want to? and all this time i just thought you were crap

Why don't you scumbags have a fair dinkum crack for the whole game for once.
The whole culture down at the shit heap of a club is trying to cheat the system.
That's all good......If you're smart enough to do it!!

You're team can't disguise 'pulling' games well enough, you're past administrator couldn't hide corruption and no one down there can hide the fact that the club has no soul.

What a passionless piece of crap Carlton is.

Psst.....Hope you get Kruezer and he does his knee, over & over again!

 

[polakthetiger]

Psst.....Hope you get Kruezer and he does his knee, over & over again!

Don't you think this is going a bit far big D!

Maybe not turning into a gun might suffice. Wishing injuries on any player never seems right IMHO. (except for someone of Libba's character!!)

 

[Croat tiger]

I just watched the Essendon vs Richmond replay and I can honestly tell you we won't beat st.kilda who are a much more skilful side than the bombers and they won't be standing like statues just as essendon did in the second half.

 

[_RT_]

I just watched the Essendon vs Richmond replay and I can honestly tell you we won't beat st.kilda who are a much more skilful side than the bombers and they won't be standing like statues just as essendon did in the second half.

Where is the confidence? Sure they are a better skilled team than the Bummers but when we played them last they had much the same team and only snuck home by 3 goals which is much closer than we have been on average in the recent past.

In recent week they have been over run by WCE, the Dogs, the Pies & the Crows. Hell even Carlton nearly over ran them and they're tanking. If we can be close to them or leading heading into the last quarter I get the feeling we could quite easily run over the top of them as well. The stats don't lie the Saints are woeful in last quarters having lost 14 of 21 so far this season.