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Youth or Experience?

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What should we do with our top draft picks?

  • Draft the nation's best youngsters

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • Use the draft picks to get some experienced players

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A combination of both

    Votes: 4 40.0%

  • Total voters
    10

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After reading this article I was left rather confused at to what we should be doing with our draft picks. The impression I got was that Freo aren't going for the experienced WA's and that are leaving that for WC. Anyway what do you think we should do, draft only youngsters with our top picks, use them to pick up experienced players or a combination of both?

Anyway the article from the West today:

Pricey early pickings

By Craig O'Donoghue and John McGrath

FREMANTLE and St Kilda are putting a high price on their early picks in this year's AFL national draft.

Fremantle has said it will not trade its first-round choices for anything less than one of the best players in the country.

And stand-in Saints coach Grant Thomas has declared his club will not be tempted to trade an early pick.

The Dockers officially qualified for draft concessions on Saturday night when they lost to Collingwood by 29 points at Subiaco Oval.

Clubs which fail to win 5 1/2,* games in a year automatically receive an extra choice. Fremantle is winless, with only five matches to play.

With West Coast and St Kilda locked on three wins each, three clubs are likely to qualify for concessions, which would give Fremantle first and fourth picks in the draft.

Recruiting manager Phil Smart said that as in 1999, when the Dockers refused to trade first-round picks and selected Paul Hasleby, Leigh Brown and Matthew Pavlich, the club was committed to improving its list by opting for youth.

"We'd be reluctant to trade picks one and four," Smart said. "The first seven or eight picks will be really good. To trade a first-round pick we would have to be given the absolute highest calibre player."

But the Dockers are more than happy to trade their second-round choice and clubs which finish in the top four would be tempted to part with senior players for that selection.

This season's premier will not have a selection until No. 19 and its second choice will be at No. 35. That is a major disadvantage and Fremantle knows it. "We would look at trading pick 20," Smart said. "The bargaining chip is how other clubs rate our second-round pick."

But Fremantle will have the first selection at the pre-season draft if, as likely, it finishes on the bottom of the ladder, so the club has the opportunity to gain a player without trading.

Collingwood snared Shane O'Bree from Brisbane that way and Hawthorn used the same tactic to lure Joel Smith from St Kilda.

"If we can get a player through the pre-season draft we would be silly to trade for him because we can get him for nothing. We'll trade very aggressively," Smart said.

THE Dockers are not expected to announce their new chief executive until at least the end of the week.

The Fremantle board met last night to decide whether to accept the sub-committee's recommendation that AFL Website manager Cameron Schwab be appointed to the post vacated by David Hatt on June 23.

Kangaroos football manager Geoff Walsh is the other strong contender.

August 01, 2001

Vis
 
Yeah, I share your confusion, Vis. And I can't get over how funny it is that the Dockers Recruitment Manager is called Smart. I suppose at least his first name isn't Maxwell.

I reckon we have to be a bit of everything here, but primarily pick the best young players as hopefully we'll have to struggle with worse draft picks in future years (ie we're going up that ladder).

I'm very keen on us developing a core of "middle aged" players (22 - 24 in modern football) who have played 50 - 100 games. I reckon that's the core of a good side. But you've also got to have constant renewal with some being squeezed out and others coming up from below. This means taking a long term view instead of the easy cop-out of "we're playing all our kids", which I reckon is a disaster unless it's planned well (St Kilda and Fremantle both did this years ago and that's why they're where they are).

We are there because all our best players got old/injured at the same time and we haven't yet got sufficient numbers coming up from the next generation (honourable exceptions though there are - Cousins, Gardiner, Wirrapunda etc).

I still don't know how good our "other" players are - your Chambers, Hunter, Haynes, Antonowitz, Munro, etc - who've been there for at least 2 years at the end of this season. Will they make it? The football dept's view of that should colour who we recruit.

So, mostly youth, but trade for a Gaspar or a Chick or similar. Given our recent history, I'd be examining the medical records of any prospective draftees very closely.
 
In my opinion we have two options:

1) draft youngsters and play all of our youngsters and hope that they live up to the expectations

OR

2) draft some medium range players from other clubs to give us a quick fix

now, the second option may seem like a bad idea to some, but isnt that what Carlton have been doing for a while now??? they picked up players like Lappin and Hotton from other clubs and let their youngsters gradually get into the AFL

the reason im worried about option one is that some of our youngsters , ie: haynes, hunter etc might not be able to make it and that'll take our club back even more
 
draft young players.

no two ways about it in my books.


There are some instances, where swapping high draft picks for more experienced quality players is what the team needs to win a premiership, but not in our case.

We dont have a chance of winning the premiership next year, so we need to get some youngsters.

The only time you swap draft picks for senior players is if your a chance to win a premiership within a couple of years, if only you had a bit of experience. And thats not our situation
 

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I would have to agree with WCE2000. We have no chance of winning a premiership, so why trade for middle age group players if all we'll do is finish maybe in the 8.

We're better off planning for the future and for premierships. After all, we want premiership glory not just a top8 finish
 
Draft talented youngsters!! Thats what we should be doing but at the same time try to lure some good players back home like Gaspar. We have to do both because our senior players are quickly becoming extinct.
 

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