YVMDFL- Part 4

[Enrico Pallazzo]

From a Gembrook supporter, worse than the Murphy incident earlier in the year.

 

[captiger]

Late hit and high, knocked out and couldn't play the rest of the game. After your pathetic rant earlier in the year I thought you'd be demanding justice.

l dont know where you get your info from finger but its off the mark again.Happened right in front of me and it was a genuine contest from 2 champs at the ball.Unfortunately one hit the ground harder than the other.He was not knocked out,Danny got up a bit groggy.There were many bruising contests all day.l'm sure Woori are not happy about bowing out in straight sets.That contest was'nt the factor in losing the game.Stop talking rubbish and put some positive comments about the great football that is being played by sides at the moment.The game does'nt need negative crap that you beat up all the time.

 

[Red Hot Tip]

l dont know where you get your info from finger but its off the mark again.Happened right in front of me and it was a genuine contest from 2 champs at the ball.Unfortunately one hit the ground harder than the other.He was not knocked out,Danny got up a bit groggy.There were many bruising contests all day.l'm sure Woori are not happy about bowing out in straight sets.That contest was'nt the factor in losing the game.Stop talking rubbish and put some positive comments about the great football that is being played by sides at the moment.The game does'nt need negative crap that you beat up all the time.

Well said Captiger - Finger has no credability on this forum anyway. Cannot contribute anything of substance. All his info is full of crap. Best we just ignore him and hope he goes away...

 

[The Finger]

Very weak act from a frustrated old man yesterday at Gembrook. The fact that after having been red carded he approached the umpires at 3/4 time to argue it - should have seen him suspended longer than the 1 week on offer. Then to watch him during parts of the last quarter re -enacting the act to his mates on the sideline was ordinary. No wonder he was told by a few that he best make his way out of Gembrook before the game finishes.

Not only a weak act but leaving before the end of the game shows just how little courage he has. No less than 3 players had to leave the field of play as a result of this fool throwing punches. 2 of them kids under 18 years of age. His last act seeing an ambulance take 1 player away.

I sure hope Gembrook get to meet them in a final because their is a long line waiting to catch up with this coward (even after being used as a punching bag by a few before he skulked off). It was a shame really as apart from this hero - it was a great game of footy that was played tough but fair by 2 good teams. A lot of good people at Warby and it's a shame that this guy (who apparantly has some personal issues at the moment & this is why he was acting the way he was) is able to tarnish the rep of a great club.

As for the 1 week - lets hope the video shows up a number of his snipes & he is brought to account for his actions.

Speaking of credability RHT remember this jaffa of yours. At least others havnt followed your lead. But I imagine due to your bias knocking a player out is all good as long as its Gembrook doing the knocking out.

 

[Red Hot Tip]

Olinda come finals time when the grounds are firm (please not Gembrook) will be all over the flag race. Play a very good style of footy and there kids aren't intimidated a bit.

Speaking of Jaffas..

 

[Red Hot Tip]

Not a happy camp at Gembrook at present is the mail. Division in the playing group and the committee aren't happy with the goings on with the outlay they've put forward for 2011. The latest addition to the playing group at a high cost is believed to have been the final straw for many.

And again...

 

[Red Hot Tip]

The incident has been caught on the DVD of the game. Maybe the investigater won't shell out $75 for a copy.

The player that was allegedly struck couldn't play on Saturday due to the alleged injury caused by the alleged incident.

Yawnnnnn - how many Jaffas in a packet???

 

[The Finger]

And again...

Please keep to post were I've labelled a player from a club a coward. Or worse threatened acts of violence towards them. Like I said when the shoes on the other foot you don't like it.

 

[Red Hot Tip]

Finger, since changing your user name in Sept, your obvious hatred of Gembrook and the need for you to bring it down is becoming boring...(as it was under your previous user name) Take aim as much as you want buddy and quote players all you like - the bottom line is you have an issue with Gembrook. Time to grow up a little and move on from your issues. Stop making crap up and p#@s off back to trolling the Collingwood forums making a fool of yourself.

You are so far off the mark with everything that it becomes almost sad watching you try to make a name for yourself. Guess that is what happens with underachievers - tall poppy syndrome springs to mind...

 

[Monniehawk]

Dan Ryan knocked out early on Saturday mail out of Woori is there not happy. Anyone got any news about a report from the incident.

Mid way through second quarter - umpire seen clash of two players, payed free kick, spoke with player who gave free away, no 50, no report.

Late hit and high, knocked out and couldn't play the rest of the game. After your pathetic rant earlier in the year I thought you'd be demanding justice.

(From captiger l dont know where you get your info from finger but its off the mark again.Happened right in front of me and it was a genuine contest from 2 champs at the ball.

Troll?
Seems like you asked a question, got some answers but you had your own mind made up anyway, didn't you Finger?
Got a beef with something and not quite getting the answers you wanted?

Speaking of credability ...But I imagine due to your bias knocking a player out is all good as long as its Gembrook doing the knocking out.

Bias? LOL

 

[The Finger]

Troll?
Seems like you asked a question, got some answers but you had your own mind made up anyway, didn't you Finger?
Got a beef with something and not quite getting the answers you wanted?
Bias? LOL

No worries Monnie two Gembrook posters say there was nothing in yet a players hit high and couldn't return to the ground. I wasn't after a answer to what happened as I saw what happened I was asking if there was an investigation. Guess not.

 

[indyella]

Given that a DVH only missed this game he would probably have to play-the others I'm still unsure on-good luck to the selectors either way there will be a few unhappy boys.

for the less informed, who has to come back in for upway?

 

[Monniehawk]

No worries Monnie two Gembrook posters say there was nothing in yet a players hit high and couldn't return to the ground. I wasn't after a answer to what happened as I saw what happened I was asking if there was an investigation. Guess not.

1. It's a physical game. A high hit does not necessarily imply unfairness. But if you have proof to the contrary, go for it....
2. You know the rules. Anyone can lodge an investigation. You saw the incident. All you need to do is get credible support then approach the League yourself, or go through your club. If it really is what you imply, then you have good reason to follow up. The system will sort it out.
Otherwise, it is just another baseless accusation.

 

[Derby103]

Defeating another club five times in a season

Lilydale d Yarra Glen, 1919
Wandin d Fairpark, 1979
Seville d Alexandra, 2011

Doesn’t happen very often. If Emerald had kicked another goal and won at Seville in June, they might have been shooting for five wins over Seville this year.

Emerald v Seville

Played: 48
Emerald: 20
Seville: 27
Drawn: 1

They have met in finals only twice before (both times at Gembrook), with Emerald winning by 27 points (unexpectedly) in the 2004 1st Semi, and Emerald again winning by 93 points in the 2nd Semi a couple of weeks ago. That was Emerald’s biggest win over Seville since 1988.

Emerald have won their last 11 matches, equalling winning streaks in 1983 and 1996. If they can win a 12th consecutive game on Saturday, it will be Emerald’s longest winning run since they won the first 17 matches of 1959 (and then lost 3 out of the next four to finish runners-up).

 

[Cagga]

for the less informed, who has to come back in for upway?

From an outsider & rough guess... David Van Horn, Parsons, Lee, Coviello - maybe more...

 

[TeeS]

From an outsider & rough guess... David Van Horn, Parsons, Lee, Coviello - maybe more...

Parsons good to go !!!

 

[Broken Bone]

From an outsider & rough guess... David Van Horn, Parsons, Lee, Coviello - maybe more...

Pretty sure that Coviello has not played that many games and those that he has played have been mainly in the two's.

 

[TeeS]

The DRJFL voted on Thursday night to head across to "odd numbered" core playing groups for 2012. The set up will be U9/11/13/15 & 17. The theory goes that a number of clubs on the EFL fringe are concerned that they will lose players to the EFL at U17 level (also implemented recently) as well as the EFL going from U18s to U19s.

The YV recently decided it would not go to U19s despite the EFL doing it. This was based on the feedback from DRJFL clubs that they would remain unchanged. It now appears that the majority of DRJFL clubs, basically said they wouldn't be dictated to by their Senior Clubs, and will do whats best for them.

Going on this, its now very apparent that there are major rifts between most Senior/Junior Clubs in our competitions. The fact that clubs are not communicating with each other, and have no regard for each other is a bit disturbing really !

I would suggest that the YV will now have to re-address the U19s format as its seems pointless to have U17s and then U18s.

 

[ManInWhite]

As an aside, has anyone heard the word "Coldstream" lately??

 

[dalton08]

Have it on good authority 4 clubs (gembrook,warby,alex,yea) on the geographical border actively dissaproved of the u/19 concept. No official vote taken at the presidents meeting in closing surely the league officals would have to realize that u/19's is a must

 

[nicknat12]

so is that 100% finalized by the DRJFL?

 

[Monniehawk]

If so, it should make for a good move all round, IMHO.
As for poor relations between senior and juniors: they deal with two different animals. The senior focus is on the contest, the juniors focus on the kids.
Relations are much better across the board, nowadays, though. By and large, both do a great job (senior clubs have improved their cultures out of sight in the last decade or two). Only a few need to acknowledge each other's role in developing local kids/football. The sooner they stop to hector each other, the better for all.

 

[sportguru]

The DRJFL voted on Thursday night to head across to "odd numbered" core playing groups for 2012. The set up will be U9/11/13/15 & 17. The theory goes that a number of clubs on the EFL fringe are concerned that they will lose players to the EFL at U17 level (also implemented recently) as well as the EFL going from U18s to U19s.

The YV recently decided it would not go to U19s despite the EFL doing it. This was based on the feedback from DRJFL clubs that they would remain unchanged. It now appears that the majority of DRJFL clubs, basically said they wouldn't be dictated to by their Senior Clubs, and will do whats best for them.

Going on this, its now very apparent that there are major rifts between most Senior/Junior Clubs in our competitions. The fact that clubs are not communicating with each other, and have no regard for each other is a bit disturbing really !

I would suggest that the YV will now have to re-address the U19s format as its seems pointless to have U17s and then U18s.

I understand that the VCFL have to ratify any change to age groups for both seniors and juniors - so maybe not a done deal. I am sure that cklubs close to the EFL would agree with thev move as we will see a lot of poaching efforts from those clubs - Upwey, Belgrave, Mt Eve, WaNDIN, Seville etc need to be worried

 

[TeeS]

I understand that the VCFL have to ratify any change to age groups for both seniors and juniors - so maybe not a done deal. I am sure that cklubs close to the EFL would agree with thev move as we will see a lot of poaching efforts from those clubs - Upwey, Belgrave, Mt Eve, WaNDIN, Seville etc need to be worried

Yes I think thats right SG, also think that any Junior comp affiliated with the VCFL can only go up to U16.5 so U17 wont be an option for the DRJFL.

 

[Monniehawk]

Yes I think thats right SG, also think that any Junior comp affiliated with the VCFL can only go up to U16.5 so U17 wont be an option for the DRJFL.

I hope there is a break on the expansionism seemingly gaining voice in some junior quarters.
I was philosophical about the change to under 17 at first, thinking we would just have to move our age group up a year to u19's (again!) but a few things are now beginning to disturb me.
I just heard that some junior clubs (led by Belgrave?) want both pieces of the pie: odd numbers starting at u9 going through to 17 and 3 months!!
If so, that needs to be challenged as they are now going well beyond their brief.
(This could also mean 7 yo kids playing club footy, partly because of the spurious belief that soccer will pinch them first? But that is another issue.)
My new concern is that it appears some junior people are pushing for a 17 and three months age group because it appears the EFL age group re-jig offers something of a threat. If that happens, it severely limits the opportunity for senior clubs to develop their own lists. If their idea gains currency, the junior clubs are open to the accusation that they are really stretching the limits at BOTH ends.
Or is it just a case of castle-building by a few ambitious junior administrators?
And where does it stop?
In the 1960's the Thirds were under 16. The DRJFL began in 1973 because it was sponsored by a few visionary senior clubs. They fielded u12 and u14 age groups. In 1977 the Thirds jumped to u17 and the Junior league expanded to u11, u13, u15, adding an u9 comp not long after. Latterly, the age groups have split again so that currently they have u10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 16. A fair growth it seems! 300% (from 2 levels to 6)!
In 1992 our Thirds became u18 when the juniors expanded to u16 - initially the senior clubs' Thirds age group. Since then, the juniors moved to 16.5 - further eroding senior development ranks. We took it.
So, far from having diminishing numbers in the juniors, it is expanding.
The juniors have a right to grow and make decisions in the interests of their clubs, but there is a limit to how much they can impinge on the territory of others. The cry (I keep emphasising 'from some in the junior ranks') that 'they will not be dictated to by the senior clubs' rings a bit hollow when they are actually imposing their will on the seniors. And very much to the detriment of the senior clubs, it seems!
History shows the juniors have already annexed the senior's u16, then u17 age groups and now some are eyeing off the u18 level by incrementally raising the u16 by one year and and additional three months. That effectively reduces the current u18 to a 9 month age band unless we creep further into higher age groups by going to u19.
There was an outcry (not entirely unjustified) when senior clubs were poaching junior clubs to fill their thirds. That eventually led to an agreement to protect the rights of junior clubs.
So, is the shoe now on the other foot?
This proposed change will force further conflict as senior clubs are squeezed and have NO OPTION but to use kids that the junior league is laying (unjustified) claim to.
Most senior club members came through the junior clubs as players, coaches, parents and/or officials, so there is a level of understanding of what the juniors are about. I'm becoming concerned that this is not always reciprocated.
I hope the VCFL does have a ruling that protects senior clubs from expansionism of the junior quarter, in the same way that they have protected the junior leagues from senior incursions.

Here endeth the lesson!!