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Yeah but essendon took a while to use ryder as a ruck fwd i remember him as a chb on buddy a few years back
Ryder is better than any ruckman we have
He is the best ruck/fwd in the league
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Yeah but essendon took a while to use ryder as a ruck fwd i remember him as a chb on buddy a few years back
Ryder is better than any ruckman we have
He is the best ruck/fwd in the league
They play against us, so I do.
It happened to us when we we're s**t too.
Yes, we are at the top, and we can't play them all. The flipside of this is that as a top club these guys are in a high quality environment, that gives them currency. They will come into their new clubs and play most games, as Everitt did at Carlton. He in fact placed equal 7th in Carltons B&F, we lost him, and our number one ruckman, for pick 32, which had started as Richmonds, till they gave it up to get Spud Hampson.
Yes there have been difficult circumstances, we have a tightly managed cap, pre-season draft, bigger offers from other clubs but the facts are we are continually losing guys for unders.
It'd be fine if we clearly didnt want them. Imo the club would've liked to keep Biggs and Membrey if they could.
Jon O'Rourke played the 10 games, he leaves after 3 or so years, GWS got pick 19.
I'm well aware of Ryders stat. you think he's overrated, thats fine and dandy.
I think he's a high quality player because I've seen his influence on games.
Allowed to yes, but tight with senior list spots after committing to three academy guys in the draft, and three rookie upgrades.
Sounds like we aren't even using the pick we swapped for Biggs.
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For the 6 weeks of a season he plays...plus he plays a LOT better as the first ruck. He was trialled as a forward for Essendon, was hopeless. He is a handy forward that is it.
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Hardly odd, played in the VFL all season. Can't kick either. A side that needs a tagger could do worse though.
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Hey Grimlock, out of interest in wanting to know more about this from a list/draft pov, but if Sydney aren't going to draft any more players shouldn't 58 be the start of the rookie upgrades and 130 be a pass?
Also on Ryder, to rudely enter the debate,
as a ruck > Tippett
as a forward < Tippett
Don't think he'd fit your list personally, maybe if Goodes was gone.
Good luck with 37, has to be a defender of some sorts I think.
fingers crossed Oscar McDonald lasts that long, doubt it though. Personally, I was never into Ryder.
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Technically no because we have already committed pick 73 to Davis, and by the rules the rookie upgrades are the 'last' picks we use.
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We have 2 more senior spots available than you all think IF we choose to use them. Otherwise we are going to be drafting a lot of rookies.
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Beatson already said we're only going into the draft with one live pick.
LukeParkerno1
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Wouldn't be surprised if McDonald does last, good player but has some limitations. Could suit us though!
was just looking at some phantoms, was going anywhere from 26-36, Keitel also may slide.
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Can see someone taking Keitel before our picks. Such a shame we committed to Hiscox at a 2nd rounder. Yes I know people will say I'm bagging the bloke. I'm not but have we really overpaid for the bloke? I would have let Freo take him almost. McDonald is a weird one in that he is a lock down defender pretty much, these players rarely go early.
pick 38 for a pre-season pace setter? Yeah, overs, but Blicavs came from a similar background, so maybe a hope he pans out. Blicavs is also 6'6 ind you.
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Don't get me wrong I rate him but around the pick 45-50 range not 38. I trust the club though and they know more about him than I do from my limited viewing.
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I think we take best available with our live pick and forget about this offseason as the year the AFL went mental and canibal and hopefully come to their senses next year. Either that or we put out the feelers for a rival AFL super league first in tasmania, and see who else would come with us.
I don't see what the big issue is with selecting Hiscox with our second round pick. We got that pick back with the compensation for Malceski and then upgraded it with Biggs. Unless you're thinking we could have packaged those two picks together and got a pick in say the 20s? But who is to say that we even could have done that. And we only have the one live pick anyway so it's not like we're using a pick later than the first pick we currently have. Plus, if Hiscox's true worth is between pick 45-50 then maybe the club thought they would be better off getting him with a SLIGHTLY better pick given they would know him inside out compared to a random player that they may select with that pick.
Or am I missing something???
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I don't see what the big issue is with selecting Hiscox with our second round pick. We got that pick back with the compensation for Malceski and then upgraded it with Biggs. Unless you're thinking we could have packaged those two picks together and got a pick in say the 20s? But who is to say that we even could have done that. And we only have the one live pick anyway so it's not like we're using a pick later than the first pick we currently have. Plus, if Hiscox's true worth is between pick 45-50 then maybe the club thought they would be better off getting him with a SLIGHTLY better pick given they would know him inside out compared to a random player that they may select with that pick.
Or am I missing something???
You answered it would have loved to package those two to get a pick say 25 ish.
Thought he may have been of a non-Anglo-Saxon background. I have never heard the name before.
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Not that I think will add more to the 38 main list but L Thompson has been delisted.
No idea how he went this year in his limited games he palyed
No idea how he went this year in his limited games he palyed
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