Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[HoopsAhoy]

So Tony Abbott is on the 'no boo' side, do y'all feel embarrassed now or what?

Oh s**t, don't announce things like that, The herd might shift ballast too quickly running to the other side of the boat to get away from that evil bastard Abbott.

 

[kfc1]

How was she victimised?

How has she not been victimised?

 

[Stumpy Pete]

I love these "imagine" scenarios

Imagine if the kid who yelled "Ape" was a 13 year old kid from China at his first AFL game. He then gets pointed out by Goodes, escorted out of the football and get labeled as the face of racism.

Imagine all the people, living life in peace.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Procrastinator35]

Nice attempted deflection. Not. You are either extremely ignorant or deliberately seeking to distort things for another agenda.

Actually it's not the AFL telling you to do it. The moment or minute of silence is an expression of reflection or contemplation used in funeral and memorial services such as on ANZAC Day at various locations. It is a widespread measure of respect in other countries too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_silence

Wake up to yourself.

I'M enjoying your posts immensely m8....Since when did they make sensible Cats posters?

 

[kfc1]

James Packer calls the booing racist. Wow you are in a marginalised minority. Poor bugger.

What does that have to do with the post you quoted?

 

[Eshay187]

If people are so mad that he got Australian of the Year, shouldn't you be booing Abbott? The guy who awarded it to him?

 

[Flash of power]

So he should only make a stance against racism when it's ok with non-indigenous people?

He is asking society to behave better - which collectively we should, but he should lead by example or suffer the consequences of having people not like him. In saying that I am in no way condoning the booing or racism, neither are acceptable.

In his speeches he has said we are judged by our actions - he is dead right there, but doesn't like it when society judges his.

 

[GroggSquad]

This political correctness BS from the AFL makes me sick. Why do I have to suck on their toes and buy into their racism propaganda? Just let me barrack and boo who I like, thanks

 

[Furn2]

"We're the one's who decide if we're being racist" - White Australia

Who decides then ?

 

[subaru]

How dare you spout sensible reconciliation into this debate....How are we, the AFL, tHE Media & Goodsey suppose to milk it for all it's worth then?

Yeah
We'd all be stuck with going to the footy to ....shock horror...watch the footy !!

 

[connolly]

Nelson Mandella was a man that brought a nation together and set an example i reckon of how reconciliation etc could be done.

OMG he spent 27 years in jail and was classified as a terrorist. If Mandela played in the ruck for the Swans you don't reckon you might have booed him?

 

[Hoops]

Godwins Law
Seriously,,,,

Swap a few words over and see if the qualification after calling her what he did still sounds ok.....
Try this on for size

If someone was to call you ugly...and then say but it's not your fault .....are you now quite happy they've called you ugly ?

"Not trying to victimise her " ???? You're kidding.
This whole episode began because he wanted an example made of the "person" that made the comment.
The fact that it backfired on him is not anyone's fault but his own, an one reason I do not like the man.

so you can't say anything about swastikas even though it wasn't directed at anyone without someone quoting Godwin's law
'Swastikas have 6 lines' - Godwins law
Seriously,,,

Just shows that you just pick out the words you want, and disregard the rest. You guys are using qualification for the very same argument. "What she said was wrong, but she is only 13"

I don't see it as qualification more a explanation in absolving her from full blame in all this. Keep finding reasons to hate guys.

 

[jc12]

No I don't. I think most people booing Goodes aren't racists.

What I am saying is that after Goodes has come out and publicly talked about his mental distress and after it has been revelaed Goodes is facing increasing racist vitriol online (refer to the attack on his Wikipedia page) any reasonable person should be critically reassessing their choice to boo and deciding that, you know what, maybe I'll stop doing that.

But I've just read a post from someone who thinks the racial anguish faced by Goodes is awesome because it puts him off his game and their team has a better chance of winning.

So I think reasonableness has gone out the window on this one.

Regards

S. Pete

dont you think those racist things you saw meant that people booing him or at least most of them have some racial motivation? this saga has revealed a lot of racists

 

[MC_9]

I see we are still going on with the same stuff here.

The sad thing is that the payer feels like he is being racially abused.

That's the bottom line, it stops there.

The players mental health is everything, no ifs buts or whinging from anyone.

But, but, but people should have a right to boo. Because that is clearly more important then another persons mental well being.

Because, if they cant boo anymore, their life will be significantly worse off.

 

[Docker Alyssa]

Has Goodes actually played the racist card in regards to the boos?

Of course he has. He's said he now considers being bood to be racially motivated.

 

[Godchin]

Of course he has. He's said he now considers being bood to be racially motivated.

Do you have a source?

 

[Smoky]

"We're the one's who decide if we're being racist" - White Australia

Swans supporters...

Self appointed leaders of the AFL community and judging of all lesser beings...

 

[Scoopar]

Made a spectacle of on national tv and media for a couple of years, removed from her guardians and taken away from watching the game by security guards and interrogated by police without adult supervision all the doing of Adam Goodes.

Please don't blatantly perpetuate a lie. Goodes did not demand, ask or request she be removed from her guardian nor interrogated by police. Goodes responded to a racist slur by pointing to the person who said it....then when went back to playing footy.

Some other knucklehead keeps banging on about lies regarding the AFL calling the booing racist....well the AFL has a case when this sort of crap is served up by the bigots.

 

[armpit]

I've been around the place sticking the boots into Goodes for the usual reasons. However what went on at Subiaco challenged me to reconsider. I wasn't blind to the pain it was causing him and I could understand Jettas reaction. I was glad he gave it to them. When I saw his mother on tv the next morning, I felt bad for her sorrow, the reality that they are real people getting hurt by mob mentality. Bad booing west coast.

But I'm not gonna wear the labelling of everyone that boos him as racism. Can we all agree to call it what it is? Bullying. West coast fans are bullies and they take pride in it. They think it helps their team get over the line. Well as it turned out, they embarrassed their players. If we call it bullying, I think everyone can get along with it and agree it is wrong. It's not something we want at the level that was demonstrated by west coast.

I don't know about stopping booing him altogether though. Wouldn't that be strange? Deathly silence every time he went near the ball. From what I remember learning once upon a time, being ignored is the worst type of punishment that can be handed out to an aboriginal. To have the tribe turn their back on you, to be excluded from the group, to be made invisible. I don't know how we negotiate this then.

I wish this could be resolved as soon as though, because lurking around in background, in the cover of the racist footy fans our certain others, I have the bigger issue with. Hird being one and the filthy mongrel hawthorn players, especially Mitchell, Lewis and Hodge.

Treat your children well.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Not at all, and I don't recall saying that, he just should not have responded that way to a child. Who he knew was a child when he targeted her, I think that is a dog act.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Why? The girl was racist.

 

[plastikman]

Nice attempted deflection. Not. You are either extremely ignorant or deliberately seeking to distort things for another agenda.

Actually it's not the AFL telling you to do it. The moment or minute of silence is an expression of reflection or contemplation used in funeral and memorial services such as on ANZAC Day at various locations. It is a widespread measure of respect in other countries too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_silence

Wake up to yourself.

Hey thanks for the wiki link. I'd never heard of that website before. It has certainly made me wake up to myself! I feel rather foolish now. I had no idea what this moment of silence was all about before reading that.

 

[ashep]

Swans supporters...

Self appointed leaders of the AFL community and judging of all lesser beings...

Better include your captain and coach in that lot mate.

 

[GroggSquad]

If people are so mad that he got Australian of the Year, shouldn't you be booing Abbott? The guy who awarded it to him?

I'm mad that your flog challenged the crowd and has now backed away. Do you want a confrontation or not Adam?

 

[subaru]

so you can't say anything about swastikas even though it wasn't directed at anyone without someone quoting Godwin's law
'Swastikas have 6 lines' - Godwins law
Seriously,,,

Just shows that you just pick out the words you want, and disregard the rest. You guys are using qualification for the very same argument. "What she said was wrong, but she is only 13"

I don't see it as qualification more a explanation in absolving her from full blame in all this. Keep finding reasons to hate guys.

Once you stick a "but" after a comment it pretty much negates the initial comment.

I gave you a full explanation of my opinion and even cited an example..... all of which you have chosen to ignore...and I managed to do it WITHOUT mentioning the war ! (dance that is)

 

[Stumpy Pete]

dont you think those racist things you saw meant that people booing him or at least most of them have some racial motivation? this saga has revealed a lot of racists

Nope.

I reckon less than 5 per cent of people booing Goodes are doing it for reasons of race, but I am disappointed as heck that so many of those booing refuse to distance themselves from the racists though.

There must be something about booing that I just don't get. But then as my wife says "maybe I'm just not doing it right".

Regards

S. Pete