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MFC needs to be careful of who it hands out numbers to in the future.
Both 31 and 11 now have be tainted
Both 31 and 11 now have be tainted
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Mitch Clark discussion - Geelong gets the flog
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If you're interested in any of Hunt, Brown or Walker I'd say we'd do a deal for them. Maybe Smedts. Possibly if you're more interested in experience and leadership a guy like Kelly might be part of a trade although I wouldn't be sure. We're not in the habit of trading definite best 22 players though and both Stokes and Varcoe are clearly best 22 players. You can push for them all you like but I just don't see us breaking with how we normally work.
Personally if I was in Melbourne's position I'd request Hunt and Brown. You don't really need more draft picks and clearly Roos wants immediate improvement. Hunt's a ready to go midfielder with 60 games under his belt who will immediately improve your team. He's not going to be a star but he's a solid player. Brown can play a role already at AFL level and has some elite skills that could see him become a very good player. He's more of an unknown quantity though. Personally I hope Brown doesn't go because I think he's still got a lot of improvement in him.
If they're not what you want then it'll be draft picks. Our second rounder would probably be on the table and I don't think that's an unreasonable offer. An upgrade of your second rounder to our first might also work.
Basically Geelong will put a number of options to Melbourne that won't be unreasonable given that he's a talented player with huge question marks over him. Both clubs will be mature enough to come to a deal I'd expect. But I think the chance that it includes a required best 22 player from Geelong is incredibly slim.
They all sound like used car salesmen! Trying to "sell us" (like their words make any difference) their dud players..
Also enjoy the one or two collingwood posters on the draft board trying to now justify not getting him after 72hrs ago rubbing our faces in it (and trying to used car salesmen Lumamambebebababa to us)..
Send him to the draft and he can go to saint Kilda or the doggies! Fk the campaigner!
Clark is a potential A-minus or B+ forward, if his injury & mental problems are sorted out.
Top line KPFs are pretty hard to come by, and you think that Clark is not worth a best 22 player from Geelong? Clark walks into Geelong's starting 22...
Kelly - he has 1-2 seasons left before he retires, who are you kidding? Will be 32 yo next season. You may as well sweeten the deal by including Matthew Egan as well.
maxmustard
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If there was some way we could engineer a situation where we could force him back to Brisbane all of this would be worthwhile. Anyways if Geelong want to dump a s**t player on us and tell us to be thankful id love to send him to the draft.
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On Smedts I really don't think there is a place in the team for him, for we are pretty well set at flanker and wing wouldn't be surprised to see him moved for greater opportunities
Topkent
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Ill never understand the mentality of people going onto another clubs board
Try to talk us into trading one of our players for nothing because they want him
Then when we say no they try and convince us he is s**t and worth nothing yet continue to talk about him
Would think pick 32/33 from Geelong would be about right, is worth alot more in one sense but worth nothing in another
Try to talk us into trading one of our players for nothing because they want him
Then when we say no they try and convince us he is s**t and worth nothing yet continue to talk about him
Would think pick 32/33 from Geelong would be about right, is worth alot more in one sense but worth nothing in another
meto
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Yes 'I think you're right we probably would be, and I think Travis Varcoe is possibly in the frame albeit a lot of Geelong supporters won't like this, but I think it's got to do with the cap as much as anything.
We need Hawkins support, I reckon the footy world knows that.
Smedts has big talent but I think it's concentration with Billie.
ThePuppetMaster
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Look, Guthrie is a promising player - but this is the first of his four seasons he's averaged more than 12.8 disposals, can play but he isn't worth pick 2 averaging 18 touches a game.
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There's a trade suggestion on facebook that reckons the best deal would be...
Mitch Clark, pick 22 and pick 58
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Geelong's pick 13 and pick 33
Then they're suggesting we trade pick 33 to pies for Lumumba, use pick 39 for Stretch, and be left with picks 2, 3 and 13.
Now I KNOW this won't happen. But it's still funny to read and discuss these things. Even if only for a laugh.
Mitch Clark, pick 22 and pick 58
FOR
Geelong's pick 13 and pick 33
Then they're suggesting we trade pick 33 to pies for Lumumba, use pick 39 for Stretch, and be left with picks 2, 3 and 13.
Now I KNOW this won't happen. But it's still funny to read and discuss these things. Even if only for a laugh.
ThePuppetMaster
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Adding Clark + Frawley to Hawkins, etc and you guys are right back in the frame for a premiership.
meto
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Possibly, I'd like to think so,.... we made a mistake cutting Pods before working through who we thought could take his place. More than half the year TH was playing lone hand big forward, was unbelievable we finished third.
Hope you guys get fair comp all the same.
+1- not before one final swipe at the bloke. Shame, I kind of liked his photography. Hope he finds a nice light to take a picture of an abandoned Ford factory.
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Offering Travis Varcoe for free
Then we can do a trade for Clark!
Then we can do a trade for Clark!
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How close are these two with Rivers? If Clark comes to us then I can't see why Frawley wouldn't pick us joining to ex team mates?
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Of course Clark walks into Geelong's best 22 if fit. But that's a big if and doesn't mean we automatically give up a best 22 player. There are lots of ways for a reasonable deal to be arranged that doesn't include Varcoe or Stokes.
Geelong will have a list of players we're willing to trade as part of the deal. Maybe they'll appeal to Melbourne, maybe they won't. For example Kelly might be on there and perhaps Melbourne are interested in the leadership he can provide while developing the list for a couple of years. Maybe not. In the end it doesn't really matter because if you're not interested in players we're willing to offer then we'll deal with picks instead.
Look Geelong have a history of being reasonable at the trade table. I brought up players like Hunt and Brown to give you some more info on them and because they're likely to be on offer if you're interested. If you're not interested fine. But I wouldn't waste too much time trying to convince yourself that a best 22 player from Geelong will be coming the other way. Geelong don't trade "required players" and unless there are some major factors like salary cap issues then Varcoe and Stokes won't be moving. But we can still come up with a reasonable trade without giving up those players like offering our 2nd rounder. That's the correct ball-park for a guy with his talent but also his issues. Unfortunately Melbourne aren't really in the position to try and force Geelong to give up a required player, something I don't think we've done by choice since Moloney.
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This is the first time he's played midfield. Last year for example he was our best player across the finals series as a small defender. I don't know if you'd be happy getting Guthrie for pick 2 or not but if you offered it I'm almost certain we'd say no.
maxmustard
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I like Guthrie as a player but we won't be offering pick two for him so I wouldn't worry about it.
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wowlace
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I know that feel bro. The inequity of this comp is driving me away. Yeah we have been s**t, but we have been pillaged for years whilst the big clubs stay on top thanks to topping up on our developed and talented players. I am sick of it.
Do you really think your club would take Clark if it was a big if? You must be stupid. Clark will be playing next season and will regain form quickly.
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Have you seen our long-term injury lists? We love talented guys who can't get on the park.
Of course he's a big if and a massive gamble. We might be confident we can manage his mental issues but the injuries are a massive gamble. Nobody can say after his injury history that he's definitely going to cope with the rigours of AFL. But it's a gamble with massive upside and, if we can get him for a 2nd rounder for example, not a huge amount of downside.
