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Discussion on Pick #35 - Harrison Wigg
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I actually don't think weight at time of drafting is 100% reflective of the player after a couple of preseasons.
Sure Caleb Daniel won't be a 90kg player...... rather that body shape and size can and will change with a few preseasons under the belt.
Looks like Wigg still has some adolescent puppy fat. That's not a knock on him, but that will go with time and a leaner stronger yiung lad will gain a yard of pace.
Sure Caleb Daniel won't be a 90kg player...... rather that body shape and size can and will change with a few preseasons under the belt.
Looks like Wigg still has some adolescent puppy fat. That's not a knock on him, but that will go with time and a leaner stronger yiung lad will gain a yard of pace.
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I'm sure I read in Knightmare's thread he said the AFL's stats were way out of date and generally unreliable and he had acquired the very latest reliable vital stats for all the draft aspirants a week or so before the draft and he did quote the source.
Not splitting hairs at all, they are totally different types of players. You only need to look at their photos to see they are different builds.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmare-2014-phantom-draft.1081319/
#29 Gold Coast - Harrison Wigg (SA – Def/Mid)
Height: 178.1cm, Weight: 74.15kg, DOB: 14/10/1996
Recruited from: North Adelaide
Range: 25-rookie
Profile: High production, efficient kicking outside type.
#31 Hawthorn – Touk Miller (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 178.2cm, Weight: 82.6kg, DOB: 22/02/1996
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Range: 20-45
Profile: Powerful inside midfielder.
We've picked him. Let's hope he turns out a quality player. Still think we were burnt with how picks 30-34 went but nothing we can do about that now.
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Standard fare for the Adelaide board....
Debate on the relative merits (or otherwise) of a draft pick turns into a slanging match of "I'm right and you are a d***head" followed by "You're a f***wit and have NFI"
It's all pretty tiresome
Debate on the relative merits (or otherwise) of a draft pick turns into a slanging match of "I'm right and you are a d***head" followed by "You're a f***wit and have NFI"
It's all pretty tiresome
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Haha, welcome to the internet.
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Skippos - did you get the heights and weights from the draft camp? A quick google all says the same things - Miller 177cm and 80kg and Wigg 179cm and 74kg.
This depends if your coach is a complete ****. As in the example you are using.
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Exactly, whilst Wigg wouldn't have been my choice with #35 now he's a Crow I'm hoping he turns out to be a good AFL quality player for us. Would still like more speed which we did not address.
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They are very different. An inside mid who we don't need and a skilled outside mid/def.
I have no idea what the point of this discussion is. Miller is obviously someone we wouldn't draft. Wigg offers something we need. Maybe he won't be the guy to deliver it, but at least it's a need.
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Sigh....yepHaha, welcome to the internet.
Youd think our supporters would back our recruiters in who have been watching wigg and the likes for more than a 3 minute edited highlights clip.
Give the kid a chance to prove his worth. Its a calculated risk whether it be pick 1, 25 or 50.
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Wasn't me that brought Miller's name into this, I agree Miller was never a need and is totally different in game style and build.
Yep 3 years now and the only fast player we've brought to the club is Cameron and he's a forward.
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Yeah its interesting, our first look into the first round in a few years I understand why went went for a KPD given it was a glaring need,
Why we haven't sought out speed in any trading/draft activity is a bit strange.
That sounds weird, why would you do that, it's like picking the redbacks side for who's more likely to get an IPL contract.
sounds more like SA were well coached and the Vic guys got blinded by flash.
Probably the same guys that picked Natanui over Sauce for all Aust.
There's some serious wigging out happening in this thread!
While one has to overlook the excesses, personal and irrational, I am glad that Bick's put his view out there which was reported somewhere in the media and the facts and stats that were posted in response. It has helped us form a clearer position based on hard data. Its been a good process.
Whether he will succeed or not is another question, but when I watched the video I saw he frequently had enough toe to get out of trouble, but more than that, he had the smarts and ability to find space to get his kick away. Would have been interesting what would have happened if Maynard was still available. I don't think the selectors will lose any sleep and may be secretly relieved Maynard was gone. While somewhat different players, maybe we will have the 'Maynard v Wigg' comparisons/competition just as we had the Danger v Ebert comparisons a few years back. Will be interesting to see how things unfold. I personally believe we went for best player available with this pick and I am not disappointed (thus far!!).
My heights and weights are correct as of October as are KMs. The AFL website's H/W measurements are from April as are plenty of media outlets. Quayle's are on the spot.
AFL are woeful in that regard, combine measurements were never publicly released. Any place that has Blakely at 186/81 is outdated as he's 188.5 odd now, for example.
Miller is 82 kilos. If my thread says Wigg is 74, then Wigg is 74. I'm 100% on that.
Was what I was thinking. We've got a little speed in the team, but it can definitely be used better and maximized by shuffling a few guys around.
Anyway, Wigg looks like a great kick of the ball, which automatically makes me OK with him, we had some horrendous kicking errors at times last year.
Interesting reading all the different viewpoints on the wisdom of selecting Wigg or not.
I have no idea whether he'll make it or not, but our recruiting staff obviously do to take him where they have.
For all those picking out the negatives saying he's too slow and not tall enough, to some degree they're comments based on opinion rather than knowledge. Mitchell for Hawthorn is too slow, and Harvey for NM is too small, aren't they?
What are undeniable facts are
- He was the MVP for South Australia in the U/18's Nationals against the best of his age group in the nation, so he can play.
- He made All-Australian in the in the U/18's Nationals against the best of his age group
- He is a huge accumulator of the ball at junior level for North Adelaide playing a different role to that he played in the Nationals
- His disposal by foot is Suckling like, both in appearance and efficiency. An absolute rarity in Crow-land. Plus he's a lefty.
So our recruiting team had some pretty good reasons for his selection IMO.
As always though time will be the answer as to whether he can capitalize on his opportunity. I hope he does, because of that elite leg that he possesses.
I have no idea whether he'll make it or not, but our recruiting staff obviously do to take him where they have.
For all those picking out the negatives saying he's too slow and not tall enough, to some degree they're comments based on opinion rather than knowledge. Mitchell for Hawthorn is too slow, and Harvey for NM is too small, aren't they?
What are undeniable facts are
- He was the MVP for South Australia in the U/18's Nationals against the best of his age group in the nation, so he can play.
- He made All-Australian in the in the U/18's Nationals against the best of his age group
- He is a huge accumulator of the ball at junior level for North Adelaide playing a different role to that he played in the Nationals
- His disposal by foot is Suckling like, both in appearance and efficiency. An absolute rarity in Crow-land. Plus he's a lefty.
So our recruiting team had some pretty good reasons for his selection IMO.
As always though time will be the answer as to whether he can capitalize on his opportunity. I hope he does, because of that elite leg that he possesses.
I posted this in one of the draft threads, but what is with all the disappointment for Wigg?
From one of the pre-draft writeups:
From one of the pre-draft writeups:
Wigg, who ran at the highest disposal efficiency at the National Championships, finished with 18.6 disposals at a top line efficiency of 79 per cent, 3.3 marks, 2.3 tackles, 1.3 clearances and two inside 50s off his six games for the Croweaters. The performances saw him take home not only South Australia’s MVP, but also All Australian honours.
