No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

[cymarak]

there's one thing i don't get.

are the tribunal deliberating as we speak?
if not, why are we (everyone involved) still waiting for the verdict?
if not, when was the verdict reached, and why couldn't it have been handed down at that time?

They would have finished deliberating days - if not weeks - ago.

The time since then has been spent finalising their official reasoning document and / or doing non-tribunal stuff.

 

[Marley10]

Gameday!

Tips
Essendon vs ASADA by 1 verdict.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

In trying to find the potential silver lining I've discovered that hurling abuse at Clint Jones whenever he kicks the ball is thoroughly therapeutic and would gladly welcome a season's worth of it.

So I'm totally cool with whatever.

 

[AsIfYouCare]

I'm all for a bit of stretching the rules via supplementation but these boys are done. Not only is there intent, now they've concocted a half arsed excuse in an attempt to get away with it. It's almost as though they want 4 years. A pro athlete on the fringes of the big time doesn't accidentally turn up with clenbuterol in his system.

The 4 year ban applies only if there is intent to cheat, with the onus on the players to show lack of intent. In the absence of further damning evidence, the Collingwood players might be able to provide a plausible story, concocted or not, showing lack of intent. Perhaps they took cocaine that had been cut with clenbuterol? Apparently such cutting is not unknown.

They're screwed anyway, if the B sample comes back positive. Such a story would still result in a two year ban, and for fringe players that would be career ending.

 

[carnthedons]

I had the same thoughts while I was driving to work this morning. It's almost like grandstanding and time is hardly on our side when you consider if the players get off they have a game to prepare for in a few short days interstate.

Maybe that's all part of a clayton's penalty. I really don't know what to think any more.

 

[Don Won]

there's one thing i don't get.

are the tribunal deliberating as we speak?
if not, why are we (everyone involved) still waiting for the verdict?
if not, when was the verdict reached, and why couldn't it have been handed down at that time?

 

[theboxmike]

 

[vaughany]

Etihad or AFL House for the verdict??

 

[vaughany]

 

[rumply]

Bomb Doe ‏@BombDoe 42m42 minutes ago
Answer to Collingwood clenbuterol scandal.

 

[vaughany]

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/drugs-tr...footy-fans-neil-mitchell-20150331-1mbmjt.html


Essendon players are unlikely to appeal if found guilty of drug use at the tribunal today, Neil Mitchell reports.

This has been fought out in public. It must be dealt with in public.

"I believe the AFL Players' Association has decided that if the Essendon players are today found guilty, there won't be an immediate appeal," Mitchell said on 3AW Mornings.

"My tip is that the association will instead ask for a quick hearing on penalty ... and that's fair enough, because any appeal would probably mean another delay of 7-8 weeks during which the players can't play anyway."

The decision will be handed down at AFL House today behind closed doors, which Neil Mitchell says is an "insult" footy fans.

"There's a bigger issue here: It's all being done in secret," he said.

"I am told that if the decision is 'not guilty' a press conference is already planned.

"But if the decision is 'guilty', there will probably be no press conference, only a brief statement.

"Now, come on. That insults every football follower.

"This has been fought out in public. It has undermined the game. It has damaged reputations.

"It must be fully completely dealt with in public.

"Anything else further undermines the game."

 

[DapperJong]

Eddie wants to sack the pies boys if they're found guilty. Bit Harsh.

 

[rumply]

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[theboxmike]

Eddie wants to sack the pies boys if they're found guilty. Bit Harsh.

To be honest there case is pretty much 100% conclusive if there B Sample comes back positive. I know if we had two fringe players do the same most of us would want them sacked to.

 

[DapperJong]

To be honest there case is pretty much 100% conclusive if there B Sample comes back positive. I know if we had two fringe players do the same most of us would want them sacked to.

Sacked? Let them cop the two year ban and that's it I reckon. Fringe player or not you have to support your boys.

 

[Dan Cooper]

Eddie wants to sack the pies boys if they're found guilty. Bit Harsh.

If they cop 4 years what good would they be to Collingwood? Even 2 years. They probably won't even be allowed to train with the squad after positive tests.

 

[DapperJong]

If they cop 4 years what good would they be to Collingwood? Even 2 years.

Well yeah. I guess you'd have to let it run it's course.

 

[theboxmike]

Sacked? Let them cop the two year ban and that's it I reckon. Fringe player or not you have to support your boys.

Yeah fair call but I can understand where Eddie is coming from.

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

When's this verdict supposed to be handed down?

 

[yodellinhank]

Eddie wants to sack the pies boys if they're found guilty. Bit Harsh.

Side by side? Maybe so you can hip and shoulder them under the bus. The stance by McGuire would be laughable if it wasn't such a sick notion to abandon these guys so readily guilty or not. Collingwood deserve a better leader.

 

[Kaiser Powser]

When the Judgement comes, don't expect it to be "guilty" or "not guilty". They also shouldn't use the term "insufficient evidence".

The Judgement will likely be "proven" or "not proven".

 

[cymarak]

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/drugs-tr...footy-fans-neil-mitchell-20150331-1mbmjt.html

...

"I believe the AFL Players' Association has decided that if the Essendon players are today found guilty, there won't be an immediate appeal,"

...

Since when does the AFLPA get to decide whether or not to appeal ?

 

[MarkG]

Bomb Doe ‏@BombDoe 42m42 minutes ago
Answer to Collingwood clenbuterol scandal.

Anybody know if all Collingwood players were tested or only 2? They might be a whole team of party boys.

 

[rumply]

When's this verdict supposed to be handed down?

2pm but when we will hear is anyones guess

 

[vaughany]

Since when does the AFLPA get to decide whether or not to appeal ?

yeah good point.

Interesting to note the 7-8 weeks is the time frame for an appeal