Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

[MarkG]

There is a pattern of this emerging and it's a bit of a worry. Players doing their mandatory two years at the club that drafts them is almost like further screening for their potential future club to see how they manage at the top level. Plus they get 2 years of development thrown in and can cherry pick them at 20-21 years old with still a decade of good footy in them.

James Aish is a classic example and I hope Brisbane do let him walk for nothing as Leigh Matthews claims. Admittedly, it's easy for me to say that because it's not an Essendon player, but the situation is getting out of hand. Clubs need some bargaining power back as the balance has swung dangerously in the opposite direction.

It's becoming like English soccer where the same teams are constantly at the top and the rest of the sides may as well not even be there.

 

[MarkG]

He also missed 6 matches and finished equal first in there Best and fairest.

And how did the guy(s) that they lost to Collingwood play?

 

[Halftimehero]

And how did the guy(s) that they lost to Collingwood play?

How is that even relevant?

 

[DapperDon]

Cool. Didn't think we'd reach the day where discussion fell below level 1 thinking, but here we are.

 

[Donakebab]

BJ bringing down the Hammer.

I know I'm late to the party, but after seeing this I had to look for the aftermath. That muppet tried to delete the evidence but couldn't get rid of it all. EFC following that s**t up perfectly...

 

[Halftimehero]

It's becoming like English soccer where the same teams are constantly at the top and the rest of the sides may as well not even be there.

No it isn't, 11 different teams have played in preliminary finals since 2010, 7 have played in grand finals. Clubs are getting there chances to move up the ladder its just Hawthorn are going through a dominant era, it happens.

 

[Halftimehero]

Crows are all over him apparently.

Crisp

 

[Stopher]

So anyway, back to where we are going to play Billings....

 

[yodellinhank]

I know I'm late to the party, but after seeing this I had to look for the aftermath. That muppet tried to delete the evidence but couldn't get rid of it all. EFC following that s**t up perfectly...

I dunno, seems like we're the pricks here. Yes BJ was a free agent, but he was also restricted and St Kilda let him walk (actually forced him out the door but still) - this guy hasn't said anything silly and has copped a spray.

 

[Stopher]

I dunno, seems like we're the pricks here. Yes BJ was a free agent, but he was also restricted and St Kilda let him walk (actually forced him out the door but still) - this guy hasn't said anything silly and has copped a spray.

Surely BJ himself was well aware of how things went down between him and the Saints? He hardly left the club hating them either, as his tears after the first time playing them suggest. So if he felt the need to correct what that dude was implying, that is good enough for me.

 

[DapperDon]

So anyway, back to where we are going to play Billings....

Forward next to McCarthy

 

[Zach Package]

So anyway, back to where we are going to play Billings....

hbf

 

[Marley10]

Beams and 67 got Collingwood pick 5, pick 25 AND Crisp. Pick 5 alone is overs for a 24 year old CHB that can play at an AA level? They want to give us Ross and a second rounder? What are they on? Dreaaaamiiing.

 

[lenny2013]

So St Kilda have said they won't be giving up pick 5 for Jake.

Have they said what they think a fair deal is?

 

[TheFrenchCut]

So St Kilda have said they won't be giving up pick 5.

Have they said what they think a fair deal is?

To be fair, they've said they won't do it for Carlisle alone. We'll get pick 5 eventually, and will probably have to throw in the Melksham pick (which looks like it'll be 25 or so).

 

[Stopher]

To be fair, they've said they won't do it for Carlisle alone. We'll get pick 5 eventually, and will probably have to throw in the Melksham pick (which looks like it'll be 25 or so).

If pick 25 is the difference between getting and not getting a top-5 pick, then just ******* do it. These chances don't come around all that often and are usually the result of a huge negative, ie the result of a s**t season and finishing low on the ladder and/or a very good player wanting out. We don't want to be in this position all too often, but since we are here, we simply must capitalize on it.

Most people on here wouldn't have complained if Melksham had been simply delisted, so the fact his currency could ultimately get this Carlisle deal over the line as a win for both parties (as all deals should aim to do), it just has to be done, whether you think Jake C is worth a top 5 pick alone or not. Don't forget that St Kilda will be keen for a mid-20's pick due to their pursuit of Nathan Freeman, so it will add weight to the deal from their perspective. All the while not forgetting that Essendon will still have a pick in the mid-20's themselves.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

If pick 25 is the difference between getting and not getting a top-5 pick, then just ******* do it. These chances don't come around all that often and are usually the result of a huge negative, ie the result of a s**t season and finishing low on the ladder and/or a very good player wanting out. We don't want to be in this position all too often, but since we are here, we simply must capitalize on it.

Most people on here wouldn't have complained if Melksham had been simply delisted, so the fact his currency could ultimately get this Carlisle deal over the line as a win for both parties (as all deals should aim to do), it just has to be done, whether you think Jake C is worth a top 5 pick alone or not. Don't forget that St Kilda will be keen for a mid-20's pick due to their pursuit of Nathan Freeman, so it will add weight to the deal from their perspective. All the while not forgetting that Essendon will still have a pick in the mid-20's themselves.

Yep. Happy to do it if we have 2 second rounders.

Also wouldn't mind the saints third rounder coming back our way to help us secure one of Mitch Brown or Hartley either.

 

[Zach Package]

To be fair, they've said they won't do it for Carlisle alone. We'll get pick 5 eventually, and will probably have to throw in the Melksham pick (which looks like it'll be 25 or so).

it'll be interesting to see if Carlisle plus 25 gets a deal done given in 2012 they made 2 very similar deals. They traded #12 for 24, 45 and Tom Lee and also #13 and #36 for Tom Hickey and 25.

So in essence they were willing to pony up a first rounder for a pick in the mid 20s and an average player, they'll look downright foolish if they refuse to do so for an elite one.

 

[Doss]

A fair bit of snide posting in the last page or so.

Please desist. There is no absolutely no need to play the man.

 

[Eleven 38]

If pick 25 is the difference between getting and not getting a top-5 pick, then just ******* do it. These chances don't come around all that often and are usually the result of a huge negative, ie the result of a s**t season and finishing low on the ladder and/or a very good player wanting out. We don't want to be in this position all too often, but since we are here, we simply must capitalize on it.

Most people on here wouldn't have complained if Melksham had been simply delisted, so the fact his currency could ultimately get this Carlisle deal over the line as a win for both parties (as all deals should aim to do), it just has to be done, whether you think Jake C is worth a top 5 pick alone or not. Don't forget that St Kilda will be keen for a mid-20's pick due to their pursuit of Nathan Freeman, so it will add weight to the deal from their perspective. All the while not forgetting that Essendon will still have a pick in the mid-20's themselves.

For trade purposes nobody wanted Melksham delisted he is capable of being an A grader only had poor form because of ASADA / WADA / And Gerard saying he was on roids.

 

[efcboy]

Nothing wrong with having two first names.

I know a guy called Lloyd Lucas

 

[Stopher]

For trade purposes nobody wanted Melksham delisted he is capable of being an A grader only had poor form because of ASADA / WADA / And Gerard saying he was on roids.

Perhaps not delisted but his stock was about as low as at any time in his career. The point stands though.

 

[Doss]

I know a guy called Lloyd Lucas

Their parents must be 540 kinds of awesome.

 

[efcboy]

Their parents must be 540 kinds of awesome.

Good mates with Harvey Daniher!

 

[Saint]

Beams and 67 got Collingwood pick 5, pick 25 AND Crisp. Pick 5 alone is overs for a 24 year old CHB that can play at an AA level? They want to give us Ross and a second rounder? What are they on? Dreaaaamiiing.

But what if Crisp had told the club he was leaving next year anyway?

To be honest, Carlisle isn't worth bugger all, they already know about his bad attitude and they know we know about it!