Discussion 2012 Supercoach & Dreamteam

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I'm struggling to fill my last 2-3 forward spots.....and theres a lot of value in the youns Saints list....but I'm really struggling to know which one to pick

Currently I have Siposs as my 1st bench player. Would you recommend him? Is Stanley a better option? Archer? Cripps? Or do I save my money and pick Saad? Somebody else? Another club completely?

Thanks from your favorite poster;)
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
Looks like this board is full of invaders!!

I'm struggling to fill my last 2-3 forward spots.....and theres a lot of value in the youns Saints list....but I'm really struggling to know which one to pick

Currently I have Siposs as my 1st bench player. Would you recommend him? Is Stanley a better option? Archer? Cripps? Or do I save my money and pick Saad? Somebody else? Another club completely?

Thanks from your favorite poster;)
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Its all a bit up in the air. If Stanley plays in the ruck he could enjoy more points than he'd get as a forward. Couldn't see him scoring much above 40-50ish though.

Siposs seems to be getting more of the ball than he did last year and probably has decent Job security. All of us Saints supporters will be disappointed if he doesn't impove from his last year's average of 35ish, ( and you will probably be on the Bay telling us what a spud he is ). ;)

I've gone for Cripps(listed as a forward ) . He's dearer than a Rookie, but if he can get a spot running off the backline he's a chance to pick up more cheap disposals than a forward gets. A sub risk though.

Stanley, Siposs and Cripps are all a good chance to be playing round 1, ( Not listed to play for Sandringham ) but the Sandringham listed players can still get selected ( Saad , Milera ).
Getting selected for round 2 is up to them.

Geelong's Smedts is a prospect but once again no-one knows if he will be picked.
Crow's Porplezia ( if he stays fit ) and Essendon's Winderlich may turn out to be good picks at a bargain price if you can afford them.
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
Looks like this board is full of invaders!!

I'm struggling to fill my last 2-3 forward spots.....and theres a lot of value in the youns Saints list....but I'm really struggling to know which one to pick

Currently I have Siposs as my 1st bench player. Would you recommend him? Is Stanley a better option? Archer? Cripps? Or do I save my money and pick Saad? Somebody else? Another club completely?

Thanks from your favorite poster;)
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Archer is injured, Siposs & Stanley will not be high scorers. Dont get sucked into Siposs's midfield time during preseason, wont happen that much once all the guns are back in side. They also dont get enough of ball and will rely on goals...

Cripps should be a lock out all Saints kids. Saad not really sure on, has never been big possession getter and will probably rely on goals aswell.

IMO only Cripps should come into consideration for your forward line.
 

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Expectations for Dal Santo this year? Likely to see any less stats with Hayes back in the fold?

He's just an out and out SC gun. Highest SC scorer over the past 5 years.

Cripps has me interested but just can't take the leap of faith for the extra $ outlay hoping he'll line up at half back. Screams sub to me
 
SaintsSeptember said:
All of us Saints supporters will be disappointed if he doesn't impove from his last year's average of 35ish, ( and you will probably be on the Bay telling us what a spud he is )
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I dont go on the bay and I never call second year players spuds

Thanks for the rest of your advice. It looks like its Cripps for me, otherwise no Saints at all and back to the GWS well for a no-name.

Cheers.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
Geelong's Smedts is a prospect but once again no-one knows if he will be picked.
Crow's Porplezia ( if he stays fit ) and Essendon's Winderlich may turn out to be good picks at a bargain price if you can afford them.
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Already have the porpoise (my third bottom fwd)....leaving me with 270 k for my two bench spots. Interesting dilemma, it will be a wild guess in the end.
 
Stanley - Been uming and ahing over putting him in my SC team for a couple of weeks. Have always liked the look of him from a non-fantasy football point of view, really think he will end up being a solid player. But I'm not sure if 2012 is the year to slot him in and hopefully get some points. What sort of impression has he left on you guys from pre-season?
 
Puntroad said:
Stanley - Been uming and ahing over putting him in my SC team for a couple of weeks. Have always liked the look of him from a non-fantasy football point of view, really think he will end up being a solid player. But I'm not sure if 2012 is the year to slot him in and hopefully get some points. What sort of impression has he left on you guys from pre-season?
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Dont do it mate, just dont do it.
 
Hey guys, just noticed that there is still a spot in Div 1 SC league. Anyone know who hasn't joined? I would hate the spot to be filled by some random team. Maybe someone from Div 2 can fill the spot?

Posted this in the leagues thread but just in case it gets missed am posting here as well.
 
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cuzz is back said:
with gram going down who would be a better pick

fisher or goddard?
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Probably not the correct thread for this but Goddard.

I am not convinced Goddard is set for a big season, but Fisher will more than likely be accountable for a man this year with the loss of Dawson, therefore will not be rebounding as much. In fact this is key to our chances this year IMO.
 
Puntroad said:
Stanley - Been uming and ahing over putting him in my SC team for a couple of weeks. Have always liked the look of him from a non-fantasy football point of view, really think he will end up being a solid player. But I'm not sure if 2012 is the year to slot him in and hopefully get some points. What sort of impression has he left on you guys from pre-season?
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Like Stanley as a person, umming over him as a player, wouldn't touch him in Supercoach
 

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lenny hayes back and firing for you guys for round 1?
do you think watters will nurse him though or will it be back to business as usual for lenny?

has age caught up with him?
 
joeyavalanche said:
lenny hayes back and firing for you guys for round 1?
do you think watters will nurse him though or will it be back to business as usual for lenny?

has age caught up with him?
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Lenny's a bargain. Buy, buy, buy
 
Do you guys think Ahmed Saad will play Round 1? What about Ledger as well?
 
sauce_head said:
Saad not yet, Ledger maybe.

I personally think Hayes is too expensive still coming back from injury.

Cripps is on the cusp and could be a good bet?
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Thanks, i'll keep Saad on the sidelines for now and put ledger on the bench. :thumbsu:
 
I've heard a lot about Cripps over the years and he is playing a lucrative role this year it seems. But is he going to average what a lot of other forward rookie will average? Or can he average mid 70s? Because he is priced at 175K...which is a lot more expensive than other rookies. If you were to invest in him as a F6...you'd want a nice return. Also I've heard whispers that he is a likely consistent sub candidate, any truth to these rumours?
 
GiantForce said:
I've heard a lot about Cripps over the years and he is playing a lucrative role this year it seems. But is he going to average what a lot of other forward rookie will average? Or can he average mid 70s? Because he is priced at 175K...which is a lot more expensive than other rookies. If you were to invest in him as a F6...you'd want a nice return. Also I've heard whispers that he is a likely consistent sub candidate, any truth to these rumours?
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Cripps has been playing off the backline, which to me will make him a better prospect than a small forward.
I'd be hoping that he isn't used as a sub more than once every four weeks or so, otherwise its unfair on a developing player ( worse than playing VFL ). Of course if he plays four quarters well it would be foolish to use him as a sub.
 
Cripps was played as a forward in all 4 games as sub last year. He had great impact kicking 7 goals... So far this entire preseason he hasnt played up forward, he has had major role change coming off backline. Not sure why people still think he's perfect candidate as sub based on last years performances. He has also played 5th most gametime out of every Saint this preseason, not once being sub.

If anyone is getting the vest its Ledger. who has played 15% less gametime and been sub every game
 
My thoughts on each player on our list

Code: 
                			Dream 	Team			          Super	Coach				
                       Pos 1	Pos 2	Price       	2011	2010	2009	Price       	2011	2010	2009		
1. Dal Santo, Nick 	Mid	--	$512,400	104	103	104	$647,100	119	112	116		Elite Premium DT & SC
2. Montagna, Leigh 	Mid	--	$485,000	98.1	112	116	$545,900	101	115	125		Underpriced Premium DT & SC
3. Goddard, Brendon 	Def	Mid	$474,200	96	113	104	$584,700	108	148	135		Underpriced Elite SC Premium
4. McEvoy, Ben     	Ruck	--	$447,500	90.5	58.6	44.1	$548,800	101	63.4	41		Emerging Premium
5. Riewoldt, Nick 	Fwd	--	$416,700	84.2	94.3	107	$472,400	87.1	109	113		Underpriced Premium
6. Fisher, Sam       	Def	--	$415,500	84	85.2	84.9	$537,900	99.2	91.1	92.4		Consistent but priced at best
7. Steven, Jack 	Mid	--	$394,500	79.7	59.2	NA	$424,200	78.2	62.5	NA		Emerging Premium
8. Gram, Jason      	Def	--	$394,100	79.7	84.2	91.8	$409,400	75.5	77.4	79		DT only 
9. Schneider, Adam 	Fwd	--	$393,000	79.5	83.9	79.1	$458,100	84.5	89.1	80.7		Slight upside
10. Jones, Clinton 	Mid	--	$384,700	77.8	85.1	73.6	$398,900	73.6	83.4	77		Slight upside
11. Hayes, Lenny 	Mid	--	$382,800	NA	108	109	$422,000	NA	103	119		Underpriced Premium
12. Peake, Brett 	Mid	--	$373,500	75.5	73	63.3	$409,900	75.6	71.9	66.5		Continues to improve
13. Ray, Farren 	Mid	--	$364,100	73.6	82.9	89.5	$386,500	71.3	80.9	94		Going backwards
14. Milne, Stephen 	Fwd	--	$358,200	72.4	72.7	74.3	$404,600	74.6	66.3	73.7		Priced at best
15. Gwilt, James 	Def	--	$350,200	70.8	72.2	56.8	$446,300	82.3	74.5	64.3		Priced at best
16. Gilbert, Sam 	Def	--	$345,600	69.9	93.2	89.1	$432,700	79.8	92.5	95.8		Way underpriced
17. Polo, Dean       	Mid	--	$342,000	69.1	NA	65.6	$372,900	68.8	NA	79.7		Limited opportunities
18. Armitage, David 	Mid	--	$335,400	67.8	71	NA	$387,000	71.4	69.4	NA		Moderate upside
19. Koschitzke, Justin 	Fwd	--	$298,400	60.3	57.1	69.7	$362,800	66.9	55.1	75.7		May surprise
20. Dempster, Sean 	Def	--	$288,500	58.3	61.4	55.2	$341,500	63	56.9	45.5		Great player but fantasy dud
21. Blake, Jason 	Def	--	$263,500	53.3	70.6	72.9	$343,500	63.4	71.5	75.4		Moderate upside
22. Clarke, Raphael 	Def	--	$258,400	52.3	64.3	56.9	$309,300	57.1	68	65.3		Fringe player
23. Geary, Jarryn 	Def	--	$212,700	43	65.6	71.8	$213,000	39.3	67.2	68.1		Way underpriced
24. Simpkin, Tom 	Def	--	$197,900	NA	--	--	$231,500	NA	--	--		Good value
25. Siposs, Arryn 	Fwd	--	$177,100	35.8	--	--	$241,800	44.6	--	--		Good value
26. Cripps, Jamie 	Fwd	--	$174,400	NA	--	--	$162,600	NA	--	--		Cash cow
27. Archer, Daniel 	Fwd	--	$170,200	NA	--	--	$225,500	NA	--	--		Unlikely just yet
28. Stanley, Rhys 	Fwd	--	$164,200	NA	39.8	--	$176,200	NA	41.8	--		Good value
29. Ledger, Thomas 	Mid	--	$163,200	NA	--	--	$113,200	NA	--	--		Cash cow
30. Winmar, Nick 	Def	--	$163,200	NA	--	--	$113,200	NA	--	--		Maybe
31. Milera, Terry 	Fwd	--	$115,800	--	--	--	$124,700	--	--	--		Cash cow
32. Saad, Ahmed 	Fwd	--	$115,800	--	--	--	$124,700	--	--	--		Cash cow
33. Andreoli, Warrick	Def	Mid	$104,200	--	--	--	$113,200	--	--	--		Some time away
34. Crocker, Sam 	Fwd	--	$104,200	--	--	--	$113,200	--	--	--		Some time away
35. Curren, Thomas 	Mid	--	$104,200	--	--	--	$113,200	--	--	--		Some time away
36. Ferguson, Jackson	Def	Fwd	$104,200	--	--	--	$113,200	--	--	--		Some time away
37. Dunell, Sam 	Mid	--	$99,800   	--	--	--	$108,700	--	--	--		Maybe
38. Lever, Jay       	Def	Ruck	$98,700   	--	--	--	$106,600	--	--	--		Some time away
39. Markworth, Daniel 	Fwd	--	$98,700   	--	--	--	$106,600	--	--	--		Some time away
40. Newnes, Jack 	Mid	--	$98,700   	--	--	--	$106,600	--	--	--		Some time away
41. Ross, Sebastian 	Mid	--	$98,700   	--	--	--	$106,600	--	--	--		Maybe
42. Webster, Jimmy 	Def	--	$98,700   	--	--	--	$106,600	--	--	--		Some time away
43. Wilkes, Beau 	Def	--	$98,700   	--	--	--	$106,600	--	--	--		Might make it as a forward
44. Minchington, Darren Fwd	--	$85,800   	--	--	--	$94,700   	--	--	--		Some time away
45. Shenton, Cameron 	Fwd	Mid	$85,800   	--	--	--	$94,700   	--	--	--		Some time away
46. Staley, Jordan 	Ruck	Fwd	$85,800   	--	--	--	$94,700   	--	--	--		Some time away
 
If anyone is feeling really brave, take a punt on Koschitzke. He's lightened up and has increased his speed/agility significantly (although he's no Buddy of course), but he hasn't sacrificed any of his pack marking ability by dropping the kegs.

Looks in marvellous form and finally injury free. Likely to be our number one forward target (so long as our players look away from Nick every once in a while).
 
aussiethunda said:
Cripps was played as a forward in all 4 games as sub last year. He had great impact kicking 7 goals... So far this entire preseason he hasnt played up forward, he has had major role change coming off backline. Not sure why people still think he's perfect candidate as sub based on last years performances. He has also played 5th most gametime out of every Saint this preseason, not once being sub.

If anyone is getting the vest its Ledger. who has played 15% less gametime and been sub every game
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I think Ledger will start on the field but may get subbed out. Millera would my pick as sub if he's selected.
 
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