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Review 2014 Post Season Member Briefing (fan forum)
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76woodenspooners
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It was
Agree, it would have been good if it was streamed on the web.
No it wasn't
I think the feeling at the end was upbeat, but 'standing ovation' might be taking it a bit far.
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It was more "here's what the **real** state of affairs are", and "here's what we're doing about it".
There was very very little "trust us, we know what we're doing" - it was generally modest.
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Apparently.
The question was answered by Hine, so he would have been answering from a playing list point of view - it would have included players like Gault, Scharenberg, Lynch, Kernezis, Oxley and Marsh who are taller players who haven't been getting much gametime.
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No - there were clearly no Dorothy Dix questions.
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Plenty of those questions were asked
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I think you could argue that both Adelaide and Weagles fans would be just as concerned about their progress in recent years after surging up in to contention a few years back.
Some people really lack the emotional maturity to deal with disappointment. Sad really.
Good post on the whole bar couple of points.
The other clubs aren't responding to their supporters in this manner due to not having such a drastic fall instead of being a serious force as expected and predicted a couple of years ago.
There's a serious feeling of disenchantment about our status quo amongst the majority of our supporter base.
And I don't envy you when the supporters of non-Victorian clubs read the bit about their teams having it easier than others
I think you could argue that both Adelaide and Weagles fans would be just as concerned about their progress in recent years after surging up in to contention a few years back.
Some people really lack the emotional maturity to deal with disappointment. Sad really.
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Yeah, it was.
It's human nature that when something is not working properly (footy club finishes 11th) that fans quite reasonably expect the worst in terms of how things are being managed.
The evening gave the club an opportunity to educate the members with exactly what is going in so they can understand it.
Injuries provide a good example. The club measure injuries using the metric "weeks lost due to injury". There were four categories, which included soft tissue, trauma (eg: ACL's), illness, and a fourth one I couldn't remember. In every category we'd improved over 2013 ... Except for the specific injury of Hamstrings.
The club is working with external experts to understand what those causes are.
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Yeah you could argue that but I prefer to stick to reality and laugh at comparison of a recent plight of the clubs you mention to ours.
Some people are incapable of seeing the forest for the trees and would rather lie to themselves than admit the severity of the situation.
Business as usual really.
I don't know of anyone who is claiming that it should be business as usual. What we are looking for is the club to react maturely and rationally to the situation and make the required changes to players, staff and systems.
The response is not to 'sack the lot of them'. People are capable of seeing the forest for the trees without getting hysterical. Alas others can't. They need to work on their emotional maturity.
Great post.
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No, they're just the ones who got in early
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Yes, there were a few related questions ...
Buckley acknowledged that we need to get back to having a wider number of goal kickers and that'll naturally happen with some of the players comin through (Kennedy, Broomhead). He mentioned that they had been frustrated this year by missing personnel in the forward line.
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OK so how many years do we give someone a chance to review and learn from their mistakes? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years? Guess what Buckley has been working in the club refining his mistakes for over 4 years now. So we recruited an amateur coach, he appoints an amateur coaching team and an amateur football fitness director. It's a boys club down at collingwood with all the favourite sons guarranteed a spot on the coaching panel regardless of their credentials. And if they don't think coaching is their thing, throw em in the marketing department. The fact is all these mistakes would not have happened if we actually looked outside the organisation and hired professionals.
Yes this year unfortunately a lot can be attributed to personnel but things like leading patterns, creating space, teamwork, blocking, repeat leads, dummy leads, isolation mismatches etc is coach-able and all players should be learning and then implementing it in game day.
I hope the club is looking at better systems up forward and not just relying on personnel to fix it.
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Yep, that's why structures and systems exist in football. Because with the right systems in place, almosy any player (within reason) should be able to slot in and play a certain role.
Clearly this isn't the case in our forward line.
So you will enjoy watching the kids tearing hamstrings and doing soft tissue injuries? Cause effectively that's what you're saying. Half our young players couldn't even get on field this season lmao. From this angle is clear I care more about watching the future than you do.
What is your solution esc0bar? The club is investigating and doing something about it.
Your comments are stuck in anger about what happened and assuming more of the same.
What would you do that you feel the club is not going to do?
Big thank you to all those posting summaries about the fan forum for those of us who couldn't make it. It is very much appreciated.
I think it's a great initiative by the club and hopefully it does become an annual thing (sounds like that's the plan).
I think it's a great initiative by the club and hopefully it does become an annual thing (sounds like that's the plan).
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For those questioning some of the appointments; lets not forget Bucks signed on with a senior coach to guide him and still hasn't got it.
Davoren has an athletics background and he was brought in to build our aerobic capacity.
Bucks mentioned the game against Swans last year at the G when they just ran all night and killed us as a sign of our lack of fitness.
The times in the game when we get the ball in our back line and then there's no one to kick to in the forward line, lack of fitness to do the up and back running, as well as not sticking to the game plan.
Other examples were Port last year twice when they ran us off our feet too.
Davoren has been brought in to fix that.
I thought it was a good presentation and it's funny how we think we know better than them; like the guy who tried to tell Bill about bike riding and the impact on hamstrings - the guy, (Bill) has been in the business since 1991!!
Davoren has an athletics background and he was brought in to build our aerobic capacity.
Bucks mentioned the game against Swans last year at the G when they just ran all night and killed us as a sign of our lack of fitness.
The times in the game when we get the ball in our back line and then there's no one to kick to in the forward line, lack of fitness to do the up and back running, as well as not sticking to the game plan.
Other examples were Port last year twice when they ran us off our feet too.
Davoren has been brought in to fix that.
I thought it was a good presentation and it's funny how we think we know better than them; like the guy who tried to tell Bill about bike riding and the impact on hamstrings - the guy, (Bill) has been in the business since 1991!!
