Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

[BomberFan355]

$700 is high if Hurley is on $500.

 

[Rack Watts]

Hurley deserves 850k IMO.

 

[theboxmike]

On output Hurley deserves more, but on potential Jake probably has him covered.

 

[carnthedons]

On output Hurley deserves more, but on potential Jake probably has him covered.

Not so sure but if you could put hurleys competitive streak in jake you'd have one hell of a footballer.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Yet he's only worth a second round pick by some.

What he's worth and what we'll get are two very different things.

You never get value when a player leaves your club. Just the way it is.

 

[Kaiser Powser]

What he's worth and what we'll get are two very different things.

You never get value when a player leaves your club. Just the way it is.

You can if there are several suitors bidding for him (Judd). Not when they are prissy and choose one club who have no way of paying fair price (Ryder).

 

[carnthedons]

You can if there are several suitors bidding for him (Judd). Not when they are prissy and choose one club who have no way of paying fair price (Ryder).

Even Judd said Carlton only. It was just they had picks/players to give

 

[Bunk Moreland]

You can if there are several suitors bidding for him (Judd). Not when they are prissy and choose one club who have no way of paying fair price (Ryder).

All players in demand choose a club that you're forced to deal with. The club has no say in it.

 

[Kaiser Powser]

Some nominate a couple of clubs and allow the club to have input. Some nominate a club that actually have the currency and are prepared to trade it.
There are ways to make it a smooth transition and help your club out, or you can be a douche and nominate one club that are simply not prepared to pay fair value.

 

[Kaiser Powser]

Even Judd said Carlton only. It was just they had picks/players to give

I seem to recall Judd shortlisting three clubs, who then proposed offers to Judd and the Club, Judd then settled on Carlton and the deal was fleshed out.

 

[efcboy]

Gleeson on MCCarthy....nothing to see here....

Hocking on Cameron...

 

[MiguelM]

Hocking on Cameron...

LOL, I remember thinking how the **** did that happen

 

[Towno78]

Even Judd said Carlton only. It was just they had picks/players to give

Yes, but Judd specifically stated WCE needed to be compensated fairly. I don't recall that ever happening for Essendon though.

 

[SherbertLemon]

Yes, but Judd specifically stated WCE needed to be compensated fairly. I don't recall that ever happening for Essendon though.

Compensated fairly? Christ, they made off winners by the length of Australia's west coast.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Yes, but Judd specifically stated WCE needed to be compensated fairly. I don't recall that ever happening for Essendon though.

Bahaha

Propaganda from the winners there

Ol Tricky Dick waved a few extra hundred thou from Visy and that was all she wrote. He would have gone there for a bag of popcorn to West Coast

 

[Towno78]

Compensated fairly? Christ, they made off winners by the length of Australia's west coast.

I agree, and easy to do in hindsight. But he was the best player in the comp at the time.

 

[Towno78]

Bahaha

Propaganda from the winners there

Ol Tricky Dick waved a few extra hundred thou from Visy and that was all she wrote. He would have gone there for a bag of popcorn to West Coast

We all know why he chose Carlton, but this is completely irrelevant to the fact that he ensured WCE were fairly compensated... which they were very well.

 

[westking]

Question.

If Hird goes, does Carlisle go?
If Hird stays does Carlisle stay?

Or are the two scenarios not related to each others outcome?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Question.

If Hird goes, does Carlisle go?
If Hird stays does Carlisle stay?

Or are the two scenarios not related to each others outcome?

Unrelated I think. Hird seems to have a good rapport with the players. We've seen someone like Crameribleave so it's not unbreakable or anything. Personally reckon it wouldn't be a big factor.

 

[Kakkle]

Question.

If Hird goes, does Carlisle go?
If Hird stays does Carlisle stay?

Or are the two scenarios not related to each others outcome?

Not even remotely related.

 

[Mr_McBoogerBalls]

If Carlisle regains his old form, then the price tag may just be worth it. Based on current form, I wouldn't say he is.

To his defense though, he's come back from injuries, been played in multiple positions and had to bare all the off-field crap going on.

Let's keep this bloke.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

If Carlisle regains his old form, then the price tag may just be worth it. Based on current form, I wouldn't say he is.

To his defense though, he's come back from injuries, been played in multiple positions and had to bare all the off-field crap going on.

Let's keep this bloke.

He's a very important player for us given our paper thin KPP stocks. I'd be fine with the club paying market value (which is probably a bit more than they want to) in order to keep him. If we can't manage our salary cap with so few A graders then we have major issues.

 

[Mr_McBoogerBalls]

He's a very important player for us given our paper thin KPP stocks. I'd be fine with the club paying market value (which is probably a bit more than they want to) in order to keep him. If we can't manage our salary cap with so few A graders then we have major issues.

Yep fair point. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Jake fanboi, and the thought of him leaving stings; just want to make sure the club is doing the right thing by the team - but I agree with you.

Also, I suspect our salary cap will free up next season with the likely retirements of players like Winderlich, Chapman, (Fletcher?).

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

How much did rance end up with at Richmond?

I'm still not sure what the plan is with Carlisle. Is he going to pursue to be the "best CHF in the comp"? Or have we wasted another year and a half of development into him to just switch roles again. I understand the need for a player to play at both ends but this has gotten abit ridiculous IMO

 

[rusman]

How much did rance end up with at Richmond?

I'm still not sure what the plan is with Carlisle. Is he going to pursue to be the "best CHF in the comp"? Or have we wasted another year and a half of development into him to just switch roles again. I understand the need for a player to play at both ends but this has gotten abit ridiculous IMO

Its no mystery we are searching for a forward Hurley, Carlisle and Hooker etc. On this occasion I think the club is being pretty logical. Play him in defence increase his chance for a solid performance which raises his market value.

Alternatively he signs on and the coaching panel decide which position is best for the team for which player.