Opinion Assistant coaches 2015 (and beyond...)

[headache1]

How come Bickley was smashed for it, then?

I did say theoretically. From my observations, our forwards exhibited terrible leading patterns, were constantly getting in each others way, and allowed the ball to escape our forward 50 far too easily. I believe those are things that reflect on their coaching.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I did say theoretically. From my observations, our forwards exhibited terrible leading patterns, were constantly getting in each others way, and allowed the ball to escape our forward 50 far too easily. I believe those are things that reflect on their coaching.

Yeah, that is true. Hopefully Teague can teach them the defensive side of being a forward, and will set up an actual structure. I certainly have faith in him, but unlike Walsh, I'm going to hold my praises and wait and see.

 

[baldandbroke]

Yeah, that is true. Hopefully Teague can teach them the defensive side of being a forward, and will set up an actual structure. I certainly have faith in him, but unlike Walsh, I'm going to hold my praises and wait and see.

He has coached an entire team before - that adds to his skill set surely?

 

[Danger in Texas]

He has coached an entire team before - that adds to his skill set surely?

That certainly helps. Mind you, Sando has coached an entire team before, and he was lacking in all things tactical (and failed to encourage the assistants to organise forward/mid/backline set-ups).

 

[baldandbroke]

That certainly helps. Mind you, Sando has coached an entire team before, and he was lacking in all things tactical (and failed to encourage the assistants to organise forward/mid/backline set-ups).

Huh? Where did Sando coach an entire team? He was an assistant in all of his previous roles.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Huh? Where did Sando coach an entire team? He was an assistant in all of his previous roles.

What I'm suggesting is that just because Teague has coached a whole team before, it doesn't mean was - or will be - a great coach. Was he highly rated at the Northern Bullants?

 

[baldandbroke]

What I'm suggesting is that just because Teague has coached a whole team before, it doesn't mean was - or will be - a great coach. Was he highly rated at the Northern Bullants?

Yep - took them to their first Grand Final since 1984 ??? I think?

EDIT - yep 1984

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

What I'm suggesting is that just because Teague has coached a whole team before, it doesn't mean was - or will be - a great coach. Was he highly rated at the Northern Bullants?

Nothing is for certain however the it's certainly good experience to draw from

 

[VKCrow]

Yeah I get what you mean. The theory is a coach who has spent a lot of time working with defensive patterns and tactics can then use that knowledge to teach forwards how to understand what the defenders are going to try and do to stop them. They can then utilise that knowledge to take the defenders to places where they are going to be more vulnerable and hopefully score easier against them.

In Walsh we trust.

 

[Mismatched]

Is prefer to have a guy who is familiar with the forward role, however I also think we'll have Callinan and Podsiadly working as forward development coaches as well a lot of the time, which will hopefully make up for Teagues lack of experience.

 

[AFC979810]

I anxiously await the negative responses to David Teague being our forwards coach!!!!

Didn't anyone do their research on him? He is a defender!!!! Only kicked 6 goals in 83 games!!!! What the hell is he doing coaching our forwards?!?!?!?!?

Apologies to all. This was a joke post. I don't care if a player was a forward or not. It was just that Bicks got absolutely smashed on this forum as our forward line coach because he was a midfielder at AFL level.

For what its worth I think Bickley was moved on from the Crows - not because he was a poor coach / poor forward coach but because he had been at our club for a very long time and was very influential. I think Walsh is better off starting fresh.

Those that criticize Bicks as a forward coach need to watch some of our forward movement in 2012 when we were properly structured up with Tippett/Walker.

 

[Crowbots are dead]

Smack was interesting on 5aa last night. Endorsed Clarke but gave bickley a bit of a back hander in saying it was pods that taught him more about being a forward. Sort of said that bicks was not the right man to coach forwards.

 

[Tex200]

Seems like Essendon has become a sacked coaches haven. Have now the following panel
Hird
Thompson
Craig
Harvey
Neeld

What are people's thoughts on this line up? Too many sacked coaches or a great depth of experience.

Our only additions have been Teague and ROK. Could we have done with some more experience or does that devalue Walsh's extensive CV.

I have no strong view either way, but interested in thoughts.

 

[baldandbroke]

Seems like Essendon has become a sacked coaches haven. Have now the following panel
Hird
Thompson
Craig
Harvey
Neeld

What are people's thoughts on this line up? Too many sacked coaches or a great depth of experience.

Our only additions have been Teague and ROK. Could we have done with some more experience or does that devalue Walsh's extensive CV.

I have no strong view either way, but interested in thoughts.

Is there a saying about too many sacked chefs?

 

[headache1]

Apologies to all. This was a joke post. I don't care if a player was a forward or not. It was just that Bicks got absolutely smashed on this forum as our forward line coach because he was a midfielder at AFL level.

For what its worth I think Bickley was moved on from the Crows - not because he was a poor coach / poor forward coach but because he had been at our club for a very long time and was very influential. I think Walsh is better off starting fresh.

Those that criticize Bicks as a forward coach need to watch some of our forward movement in 2012 when we were properly structured up with Tippett/Walker.

So our coaches don't deserve any criticism for not altering the gameplan to fit the players we had at our disposal?

 

[dylan123]

I like it, all of these guys have been chosen to be a head coach at some point in their careers which shows they beat a number of other guys for that role. Now whilst some of them might have failed as head coaches, they've all head experience as assistant coaches in which they did very good jobs at prior to becoming head coaches and they're probably all better off for it as coaches with that experience.

Players are going to be getting plenty of advice from guys that know what the head coach wants given they've been in that role.


Only thing I can potentially see is a clash of personalities/ideas given you'd expect them all to be 'alpha dogs' in their own right. Again, could work very will given you'll have plenty of thinkers all thinking differently but it could also lead to some disagreements between the coaches at times.

 

[SmegHead]

So our coaches don't deserve any criticism for not altering the gameplan to fit the players we had at our disposal?

You'd think Bicks, after playing alongside high-marking forwards like Modra, DJarman and Burton; as well as quality crumbers like Liptak, Vardy and Bond would not go with a gameplan of "bomb it long on top of Eddie Betts"

I'm not as scathing of Bickley as others, but it's clear his time has come. Not many assistants would or should survive 3 coaches.

 

[baldandbroke]

You'd think Bicks, after playing alongside high-marking forwards like Modra, DJarman and Burton; as well as quality crumbers like Liptak, Vardy and Bond would not go with a gameplan of "bomb it long on top of Eddie Betts"

I'm not as scathing of Bickley as others, but it's clear his time has come. Not many assistants would or should survive 3 coaches.

Matthew Liptak?

 

[40porpoise]

Just watched the assistant coaches press conferences. Teague looks like an odd character, not overly inspiring but I think Phil and himself will prove to be a good mix.

O'keefe had a great playing career but he's pretty young in terms of coaching experience. Not sure about him to be honest. Also just for the record Ryan it's 'resonated', not 'resignated' as he repeated a couple of times. Made me cringe a little bit, but just as long as he's a good communicator with the players then all is forgiven

 

[DroppingTheBall]

Seems like Essendon has become a sacked coaches haven. Have now the following panel
Hird
Thompson
Craig
Harvey
Neeld

interested in thoughts.

We are going for a champion team in the box, they went the other way.

 

[baldandbroke]

Is the ROK presser online anywhere, I can't seem to find it?

 

[Crowfoot]

Is the ROK presser online anywhere, I can't seem to find it?

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Seems like Essendon has become a sacked coaches haven. Have now the following panel
Hird
Thompson
Craig
Harvey
Neeld

What are people's thoughts on this line up? Too many sacked coaches or a great depth of experience.

Our only additions have been Teague and ROK. Could we have done with some more experience or does that devalue Walsh's extensive CV.

I have no strong view either way, but interested in thoughts.

Imo you need to create openings for new talent

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I liked ROK's repeated reference to the midfield playing and working as a unit, if we can achieve this we will be difficult to beat

 

[LiquidCrow]

O'keefe had a great playing career but he's pretty young in terms of coaching experience. Not sure about him to be honest. Also just for the record Ryan it's 'resonated', not 'resignated' as he repeated a couple of times. Made me cringe a little bit, but just as long as he's a good communicator with the players then all is forgiven

I think he's clipping his vowels. Not to worry, we'll get that weird NSW accent out of him soon.

Seems like Essendon has become a sacked coaches haven. Have now the following panel
Hird
Thompson
Craig
Harvey
Neeld

What are people's thoughts on this line up? Too many sacked coaches or a great depth of experience.

Our only additions have been Teague and ROK. Could we have done with some more experience or does that devalue Walsh's extensive CV.

I have no strong view either way, but interested in thoughts.

The Bombers team feels like the AFL equivalent of the Expendables. If they fire on all cylinders, I think it could be very good although this will be hard to know as performance will obviously be influenced by what doping sanctions are handed down.

I'm less concerned about Teague and ROK being relatively inexperienced, as I feel Walsh will be taking a strong role and overall responsibility for most coaching aspects.