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I love the way they are always "offered" a punishment.JACK Martin is set to miss Carlton's semi-final against Melbourne and potentially the preliminary final after being offered a two-match ban for his high hit on Sydney defender Nick Blakey.PLAYERCARDSTART22Nick Blakey
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 83kg
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- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 9.9
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 2.9
- 3star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- MG
- 189.1
- 3star
- D
- 8.1
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 1.9
- 1star
- M
- 2.1
- 2star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- MG
- 189.1
- 3star
- D
- 7.2
- 2star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 2.0
- 2star
- M
- 1.2
- 2star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
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Tom Papleyfined.PLAYERCARDSTART11Tom Papley
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 177cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 14.1
- 4star
- K
- 9.1
- 4star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- G
- 1.5
- 5star
- D
- 12.3
- 3star
- K
- 8.9
- 4star
- HB
- 3.4
- 2star
- M
- 4.5
- 4star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- G
- 2.4
- 5star
- D
- 13.4
- 4star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 5.4
- 4star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
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UPDATE: Blues to challenge Martin ban at Tribunal
The Blues have announced they will contest Jack Martin's two-game banwww.afl.com.au
In fairness, clubs do have the opportunity to respond with a "no thanks".I love the way they are always "offered" a punishment.
"I've got a 2 match ban here, would you like it?"
You reckon? 1 week more fair?2 weeks harsh
Would be good if they introduced the sin bin for instances like that. We shouldn't have been a man down for 20min because some prick chose to swing at lizards head.You reckon? 1 week more fair?
Took the Lizard out with a punch to the head and had to do a concussion test, so was out for however long that goes for.
Lizards absence was notable and it was a weak act for mine.
Bearing in mind Parker got a week for a tackle against this mob, 2 weeks is fair for a strike with a clenched fist for mine.
Would be good if they introduced the sin bin for instances like that. We shouldn't have been a man down for 20min because some prick chose to swing at lizards head.
I actually think Liz has been targeted a few times this year as opponents have tried to stop him from performing. He has been on the receiving end of a lot of physicality so he is obviously viewed as a threat by other coaches.You reckon? 1 week more fair?
Took the Lizard out with a punch to the head and had to do a concussion test, so was out for however long that goes for.
Lizards absence was notable and it was a weak act for mine.
Bearing in mind Parker got a week for a tackle against this mob, 2 weeks is fair for a strike with a clenched fist for mine.
You reckon? 1 week more fair?
Took the Lizard out with a punch to the head and had to do a concussion test, so was out for however long that goes for.
Lizards absence was notable and it was a weak act for mine.
Bearing in mind Parker got a week for a tackle against this mob, 2 weeks is fair for a strike with a clenched fist for mine.
Reckon you’re being very harsh on Lloyd caesar88 - he put his body on the line numerous times & I felt he (along with McCartin) held the defence together admirably.Last night's game just sorta crystalized everything I think I already knew about us and have been saying for a long time.
That McLean is legit. He just churned out breakout game after breakout game in the second half of this year, proving it's no fluke, and last night's was the best of the lot.
That McCartin can be an elite, match-winnning/saving defender. If we perform better up the ground and get the W, then one of the major talking points out of this game is McCartin doing a number on the Coleman Medallist.
That we really do need Mills & Rowbottom firing. I highlighted these two as players we needed to have big games (and big years, going all the way back to pre-season.) They got less contested possessions combined than any of Cripps, Hewett & Walsh. One was tagging, the other didn't look right from the get go.
That Gulden really is the kind of cool customer who doesn't see the game in moments of importance or pressure. It's all the same to him. Six goals up in a dead rubber or five goals down in a must-win final, his level of application and intensity doesn't waver.
That Parker can be a very dangerous forward, but I won't open that can of worms.
That you can generate more scoring shots in a game than your opponents but still be the inferior team. All year we have had no problem generating our fair share of shots at goal, but too many of them feel individual-based. Individuals just pulling brilliant things out of their arse to give us a chance and keep us in games. They haven't felt system-based enough for me and it's why we fail to turn our goals into genuine, sustained momentum.
And on a slightly more sour note, once again I'm left lamenting a leadership void in a final. We just don't get enough of a return from our senior core in these games, over and over. Heeney dropping an absolute sitter in the middle of the ground, Parker missing tackles, Lloyd & Rampe spraying kicks, Papley making dumb decisions. It all adds up.
Onto next year.
That's fair DQ. As you know I'm a huge fan so I hold him to a high standard. I've almost come to expect that stuff you mention, I think he's understatedly brave and also key to organising our defensive structures. Those are givens. I just didn't like his ball use that much considering it's a strength of his and he is a leader.Reckon you’re being very harsh on Lloyd caesar88 - he put his body on the line numerous times & I felt he (along with McCartin) held the defence together admirably.
To my eye, Lloyd had a fine match despite the odd inefficient disposal.
Closed fist, actually got his head, was a weak act to be fairthe precedent has been established that you can't do anything so I get that especially parker etc
But he comes in to just smack the ball , he got him high with an open arm it looked like to me?
No. Deliberate fist to jaw. The ball was gone. Malice aforethought. Not "careless" at all. Intentional. Watch the replay again.the precedent has been established that you can't do anything so I get that especially parker etc
But he comes in to just smack the ball , he got him high with an open arm it looked like to me?
No. Deliberate fist to jaw. The ball was gone. Malice aforethought. Not "careless" at all. Intentional. Watch the replay again.
Agree completely. Eyes him up and whacks him. A dog actNo. Deliberate fist to jaw. The ball was gone. Malice aforethought. Not "careless" at all. Intentional. Watch the replay again.
Are you serious once againWould be good if they introduced the sin bin for instances like that. We shouldn't have been a man down for 20min because some prick chose to swing at lizards head.
i mean north interchange crows goal etc probably finish 12th
Disappointed overall still
especially when it's guys like Papley Heeney parker (good forward second half last night) being so patchy
The AFL will need to address the outages for concussion protocols when due to another team's actions. We were lucky to only be a man down for just 20 minutes. Demons lost Bradshaw for the whole game and then the next. It doesn't even the score for them if Maynard gets rubbed out. Sure there's a sub, but what if it happens after the sub has been activated?§Are you serious once again
Loved Bradshaw when he played for us , but a Lions champThe AFL will need to address the outages for concussion protocols when due to another team's actions. We were lucky to only be a man down for just 20 minutes. Demons lost Bradshaw for the whole game and then the next. It doesn't even the score for them if Maynard gets rubbed out. Sure there's a sub, but what if it happens after the sub has been activated?§
Can't understand why notJust as an aside - I was hoping to see the old school white with red V in the finals.
Still reckon it’s the best Swans guernsey.
Soz. BrayshawLoved Bradshaw when he played for us , but a Lions champ
I agree with you KC, but a thorough evaluation doesn't need to be tough either, simply fair, honest and well communicated. It needs to get the buy in of everyone, which won't happen if it's seen as ruthless, a word I'd thankfully never apply to the Swans. Ruthless on field is fine, but off field, it ddoesn't sit well with the Bloods ethos. It doesn't engender respect, fidelity or devotion. A ruthless club doesn't have stars signing up for lengthy terms because they love the club and its culture. That doesn't mean we can't have an honest and thorough look at our players, staff, game plan etc, but for change to be effective it has to be embraced at all levels.
I like a lot of what you say here, especially about some of the brain dead stuff. There's a fair bit more to that too that extends right through the season.
Where possibly we differ is with what the word "ruthless" means. If you mean "honest, direct, thoughtful and tough" then I agree. If you mean "nasty, derogatory and shaming" then I don't.
And evaluation of the coaches should never happen in front of the players.
That evaluation needs to happen soon while it's still fresh in people's minds and maybe it needs outside facilitators too because it can be pretty tricky and destroying a half million dollar asset is pretty poor business. Just ask Don Pyke.