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Cherry picked? It isnt the only quote regarding the subject.
I will go again.
I always disagree, however, when people end up saying that we can only combat Communism, Fascism or what not if we develop an equal fanaticism. It appears to me that one defeats the fanatic precisely by not being a fanatic oneself, but on the contrary by using one's intelligence.Letter to Richard Rees (3 March 1949), The Collected Essays,
Does that sound to you like he didnt feel it needed to be combatted?
Yeah, cherry picked. Instead of reading his entire body of work you're picking out selected quotes to make a narrow point; Orwell didn't like communism.
Correct. He didn't like communism.
His disdain for communism however had nothing to do with a disdain for left wing principles, but a disdain for hierarchies, stratification and tyranny. Common to both communism, fascism, autocracy and oligarchies. It's also a thread that runs through 1984, Animal Farm, Down and Out in Paris and London and Homage to Catalonia.
His beef was with tyrannical political/economic systems. Not with loony lefty lurvies.
My point is this would be bleedingly ******* obvious if you'd actually read his work rather than just searching for quotes that back up your point of view on the internet.
He was a democratic socialist.I never said he was. I said he didnt like communism.
There has been agreement from me that not everything (and by extension everyone) can be easily fit into the labels left and right wing.
He was a democratic socialist.
He actually outlined a socialist program for England.
Of course.I agree. Surely we can agree that not everyone who is a socialist is a communist?
I agree. Surely we can agree that not everyone who is a socialist is a communist?
indeed i suspect he would of been pleased with Scandinavia to an extent
True enough, Id imagine hed be reasonably happy with most western governments.
True enough, Id imagine hed be reasonably happy with most western governments.
Communism is fine it's just not meant for humans.
I am not saying what I post below this is right or wrong and yes is open to ones political opinions. FOR EXAMPLE those of Libertarian bent will never ever except that there are any deaths other than by oppressive governments. What I am trying to say that it is in the end how one wants to interpret mass death.Sure I can accept most of that. But barbarity of Capatalism, where? When?
I never said he was. I said he didnt like communism.
There has been agreement from me that not everything (and by extension everyone) can be easily fit into the labels left and right wing.
Communism is fine it's just not meant for humans.
And Gavin Bryars fans?Is it Ok for party animals?
Now have to dig CD out and play for the first time in a few years.Well spotted John
Now have to dig CD out and play for the first time in a few years.
I got into minimalism a good few years back and have been more into Reich, Glass, Nyman (The Piano soundtrack has had major airplay in my household by the Mrs with no complaint by me) but had read about Bryars and then one day found it in a shop. Mesmerising sums most of it up. In truth though I reckon the piece itself easily gets by without Tom Waits on my version of the CD. I tend to stick to the original 25 minute piece.Heard it for the first time on RN recently and was totally mesmerised