FTA-TV Game of Thrones Season VII

[FlowersByIrene]

Yep sansa mentions meeting him when he took his son to the wall. This was before AGOT so I don't think we know the reason weymar royce took the black do we?

He took the black because he was the fourth son of Lord Rhoyce. Had no chance at lordship

 

[pantskyle]

Dont think that's true. His first aegon doesnt die till after Rhaegar dies on the trident.

Jon's name is Jahaerys - aegon is a retarted name

Unless Rhaegar believed the prophecy meant any son named Aegon.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

agreed on all accounts. i actually fell asleep during that for yara crap.

With so many awesome characters, it's really hard to give a crap about either Theon and especially Yara. I hope we don't see them again, but no doubt they will take up valuable screen-time next season.

And as far as he knows they only went back to the Iron Islands, they don't know he has gone across the sea.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Davos, always says it best. Every time.

There was a lot of talk this season about how quickly characters were moving from one place to another, and Ser Davos especially was pinballing all over the place.

The way I view this is, when we saw Ned Stark getting his head lobbed off in Season 1, and people looked at it and their jaws hit the ground because it was a game-changer — the leading man does not get killed — when that happened, people realized the rules no longer apply. That’s kind of like this jumping around with Varys and myself and a few others.

I mean, these are travel things, do you know what I mean? If we want them to stick to continuity, we’d have to wait another 12 episodes before Gendry got back to Eastwatch and gave me the news. The way I view drama is life with the boring bits taken out. I don’t really want to watch Varys eating his lunch or me under a tree waiting for the rain to pass so we can get somewhere. Let’s get rid of that stuff. As [“Beyond the Wall” episode director] Alan Taylor said, we did stretch the believability factor of that, but it was for the purposes of drama, and I think if you looked at whoever you were watching it with on the couch and went, “Well he got there quick,” I think you’d get over it. It’s a grown-up show for grown-ups; let’s cut out the boring bits.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Dont think that's true. His first aegon doesnt die till after Rhaegar dies on the trident.

Jon's name is Jahaerys - aegon is a retarted name

He wanted the prophecy to come true. But in any case, all we know is Lyanna named him at the ToJ, which was after the Trident anyway. Maybe Lyanna wanted to honour him by using the most significant Westerosi name there is

 

[peternorth]

Davos, always says it best. Every time.

There was a lot of talk this season about how quickly characters were moving from one place to another, and Ser Davos especially was pinballing all over the place.

The way I view this is, when we saw Ned Stark getting his head lobbed off in Season 1, and people looked at it and their jaws hit the ground because it was a game-changer — the leading man does not get killed — when that happened, people realized the rules no longer apply. That’s kind of like this jumping around with Varys and myself and a few others.

I mean, these are travel things, do you know what I mean? If we want them to stick to continuity, we’d have to wait another 12 episodes before Gendry got back to Eastwatch and gave me the news. The way I view drama is life with the boring bits taken out. I don’t really want to watch Varys eating his lunch or me under a tree waiting for the rain to pass so we can get somewhere. Let’s get rid of that stuff. As [“Beyond the Wall” episode director] Alan Taylor said, we did stretch the believability factor of that, but it was for the purposes of drama, and I think if you looked at whoever you were watching it with on the couch and went, “Well he got there quick,” I think you’d get over it. It’s a grown-up show for grown-ups; let’s cut out the boring bits.

Ser DAvos can do whatever he likes in my book.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Ser DAvos can do whatever he likes in my book.

especially after a bowl of fermented crab

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Thoughts on jon and dany sex scene? Pretty average by GOT standards I thought.

Aunty Sex is now trending on Pornhub
Or so I have heard

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Hmmm that hadn't crossed my mind. Would be awkward though, Tyrion crossing back to Cersei's side just as Jaime leaves her.

Definitely something up with Tyrion though. He didn't look happy about them getting it on.

Not sure if it's got to do with his feelings, everyone loves the queen, right?

I actually think it's more to do with how he thinks the 7 Kingdoms succession plan should work out. I don't think he'd want a Stark (as far as he knows) marrying into the Targaryen family. He also is of the belief that Daenerys can't have children, so he might be projecting ahead and thinking Jon could become the king. He'll want to thwart that plan, not knowing that Jon is actually the true heir anyway.

By now he should just know he can simply wait about 3 episodes, which is about how long a happy relationship lasts in this show.

 

[Vader]

Coupling is one of the best comedies I have seen. would love to get the series in a box set.

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Used to be available in Australia, but it doesn't appear to be listed on the JB Hifi website any longer. I have all 4 series at home on DVD.

 

[Vader]

No escape necessary. Jamie explained to Olenna that the Iron fleet's mission was only to destroy the unsullieds boats, stranding the unsullied at Casterly rock. This cut off the unsullied from the rest of Daenerys army, forcing the unsullied to spend months marching across Westeros. A lot has happened since then, so there should have been enough time pass for them to have completed the journey.

Agreed. The only issue was supplies - and Dany's capture of the supply train from Highgarden should have solved that problem (assuming she didn't burn the entire convoy).

In that time we've had Jon travel from Dragonstone to Eastwatch, and out into the North with the Magnificent 7. He's then sailed all the way back to Dragonstone and Kings Landing. Euron's fleet has sailed all the way around Westeros for the 3rd time. Sam has made his way from Oldtown to Winterfell. It's clearly been several months - plenty of time for the Unsullied to march from Casterly Rock to Kings Landing.

 

[Dancing Potato]

Aidan Gillen deserves a lot of credit for that performance. Complete 180 for his character and he sold it so well.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Dont think that's true. His first aegon doesnt die till after Rhaegar dies on the trident.

Jon's name is Jahaerys - aegon is a retarted name

Aemon would have been better or something starting with Vis if Rhaegar was going for the original 3 Targaryens

 

[Vader]

Littlefinger played himself, Sansa used his own advice against him because when she examined Arya's possible motives and goals she found taking Sansa's place wasn't there and then she had to examine Littlefingers motives and goals for why he'd want Sansa focused on Arya and then she started examining all his actions and started putting 2 and 2 together. Littlefinger went out exactly the way he should have, the way he'd always go out hoisted on his own petard.

The writers do have a great way of using poetic justice to kill off the villains - Ellaria watching her Sand Snake daughter die from the same poison she used on Myrcella was another example.

 

[Vader]

There's a lot to like about last night's episode - but very few twists, at least none that hadn't been foreshadowed well ahead of time. The days of shocking us with scenes like Ned's death, Joffre's death, and the Red Wedding, are well and truly behind us. Now it's a straight beeline to the finish line.. which is kind of unfortunate. Now all we're left with is the visual spectacle, where previously it was the story that held us enthralled.

I loved the scenes with Brienne & the Hound, Brienne & Jamie, and Bronn & Tyrion. The reveal of Jon Snow's true parentage was well and truly neutered by the sheer volume of foreshadowing which preceded it. By the time it was finally revealed, it was very old and stale news to the viewers. Watching the dragon take down the wall was visually spectacular, but similarly predictable as soon as we saw the dragon resurrected last week. Cersei being completely unmoved by the wight was entirely predictable, and showed just how stupid that whole Magnificent 7 storyline really was. What I didn't expect was the schism it caused between Cersei & Jaime.

I also like the poetic justice. Ramsey Bolton, Ellaria and her Sand Snake daughter, and now Littlefinger - all met their ends in ways which were poetically just.

One thing I picked up on was earlier in the episode.. Euron asked Jon if the wights could swim. Jon's answer was "no". If that's the case, then how did they get the chains down to the dragon at the bottom of the lake in the previous episode? It's not a flaw in Ep7, it just goes to show how utterly stupid Ep6 was from start to finish.

Now we have wights in the North, south of the wall. Given how long it's taken them to get from Hardhome to Eastwatch, they should arrive in Winterfell sometime around season 15, arriving in Kings Landing just in time to crash Cersei's baby's 21st birthday party. Tywin Lannister (the second of his name)... meet your zombie Dad!

 

[Noobz0r]

There's a lot to like about last night's episode - but very few twists, at least none that hadn't been foreshadowed well ahead of time. The days of shocking us with scenes like Ned's death, Joffre's death, and the Red Wedding, are well and truly behind us. Now it's a straight beeline to the finish line.. which is kind of unfortunate. Now all we're left with is the visual spectacle, where previously it was the story that held us enthralled.

This is exactly why part of me wanted Jaime to die yesterday

 

[Kirby]

The wights didn't need to swim to get the chains around the dragon in the water. The Night King could have sacrificed a thousand of them to get that done. They didn't need to swim.

 

[kane249]

One thing I picked up on was earlier in the episode.. Euron asked Jon if the wights could swim. Jon's answer was "no". If that's the case, then how did they get the chains down to the dragon at the bottom of the lake in the previous episode? It's not a flaw in Ep7, it just goes to show how utterly stupid Ep6 was from start to finish.

Now we have wights in the North, south of the wall. Given how long it's taken them to get from Hardhome to Eastwatch, they should arrive in Winterfell sometime around season 15, arriving in Kings Landing just in time to crash Cersei's baby's 21st birthday party. Tywin Lannister (the second of his name)... meet your zombie Dad!

Jon never saw them get the dead dragon out of the ice, as far as he knows they can't swim. The only people who know the Night's King has a dragon is Bran (through the birds) and those at the wall.

See above, seems to be the Night's King was waiting for the dragon before he marched south to the wall to destroy it. Things might progress a bit faster now.

 

[kane249]

Theon didn't kill Euron, he killed random Iron Fleet captain that pulled Theon out of the drink after Euron's ambush in ep 2.

Oops thought it was Euron for some reason.

All them Iron Island folk look the same to me

 

[jackn]

One thing I picked up on was earlier in the episode.. Euron asked Jon if the wights could swim. Jon's answer was "no". If that's the case, then how did they get the chains down to the dragon at the bottom of the lake in the previous episode? It's not a flaw in Ep7, it just goes to show how utterly stupid Ep6 was from start to finish.

They can't swim but they can survive under water. Many of them probably died with armour on which obviously means cotton under that armour. I'm not sure if you realise it but cotton under armour will make you sink like a lead balloon. Hence, they can get to the bottom of the lake.

 

[Dancing Potato]

It's a bit harsh to complain about predictability. This thread itself is basically 156 pages of discussion of every possible permutation of every possible storyline.

The only things that will shock these days are things so stupid and left field they shouldn't be written into the show in the first place.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Does anyone else think the Theon/Yara story line is a bit pointless now? There is a war going on.

completely pointless and rather painful compared to the rest of the awesome shyte that's going on. something somewhat significant will have to come of it though if they're persisting with it.

though hopefully that was his simple exit stage left moment and we don't hear about them again.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Jon never saw them get the dead dragon out of the ice, as far as he knows they can't swim. The only people who know the Night's King has a dragon is Bran (through the birds) and those at the wall.

See above, seems to be the Night's King was waiting for the dragon before he marched south to the wall to destroy it. Things might progress a bit faster now.

I am wondering whether the Night Kind has somehow planned to lure them north for that whole expedition, in order to somehow get the Dragon. I only ponder this because he used the Dragon to take down that section of the wall, making me think how else was he planning on getting around/through it to begin with?

But for that to happen he would have had to have somehow influenced the vision that the Hound had (that 'dagger shaped mountain') in the fire, at the very least... Seems too far-fetched to me.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

The wights didn't need to swim to get the chains around the dragon in the water. The Night King could have sacrificed a thousand of them to get that done. They didn't need to swim.

I admit I was waiting for Jon to expand on his response to whether they could swim or not. Don't see why the wights, weighted down as they mostly are, can't simply sink to the bottom and then walk.

 

[Vader]

Jon never saw them get the dead dragon out of the ice, as far as he knows they can't swim. The only people who know the Night's King has a dragon is Bran (through the birds) and those at the wall.

See above, seems to be the Night's King was waiting for the dragon before he marched south to the wall to destroy it. Things might progress a bit faster now.

He did see them fall through the ice, at the start of the island seige.. and none of them ever returned. We also know that they stopped at the waterline in the Battle of Hardhome.

Even if they can't swim, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be able to just walk along the bottom. It's not as if they need to breathe - many of them are nothing more than skeletons.