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Robbo Endorsed Herald Sun is now user pays - GTFO here! MEGA THREAD
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
So the Herald Sun are going to try to make people pay the same thing they can get for free from their affiliates.
i.e. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-the-premiership/story-e6freck3-1226296657546 , http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-the-premiership/story-e6frexx0-1226296657546
This can't end well.
So the Herald Sun are going to try to make people pay the same thing they can get for free from their affiliates.
i.e. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-the-premiership/story-e6freck3-1226296657546 , http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-the-premiership/story-e6frexx0-1226296657546
This can't end well.
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Totally different media - you're comparing apples with oranges.
Totally different media - you're comparing apples with oranges.
How dare they make us pay for the work they pay their writers produce.
I mean, newspapers have been free for over a hundred years and... s**t, hang on.
Not sure what the outrage is. If it works, it works. If not it will be free again. Not likely to bring News ltd down if it fails so why not give it a go?
People are kidding if they think this is going to stop at News ltd, btw. The dam will well and truly burst and others will follow shortly.
I mean, newspapers have been free for over a hundred years and... s**t, hang on.
Not sure what the outrage is. If it works, it works. If not it will be free again. Not likely to bring News ltd down if it fails so why not give it a go?
People are kidding if they think this is going to stop at News ltd, btw. The dam will well and truly burst and others will follow shortly.
grizzlym
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
I'm a member of quite a few media sites/organisations as part of my job, but I fail to see what the Herald Sun would bring me online. It's very much just 'browsing material', there is no depth or thought to anything they produce. It's like a pack of Burger Rings; mostly air, a bit of colouring and the rest is reconstituted and processed crap.
I'm a member of quite a few media sites/organisations as part of my job, but I fail to see what the Herald Sun would bring me online. It's very much just 'browsing material', there is no depth or thought to anything they produce. It's like a pack of Burger Rings; mostly air, a bit of colouring and the rest is reconstituted and processed crap.
Hank93
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I won't be paying for the premium content, but I'll take up the free two month offer as soon as round 1 starts for supercoach scores.
I won't be paying for the premium content, but I'll take up the free two month offer as soon as round 1 starts for supercoach scores.
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Forgive my ignorance but i never have been on the fox website and i gotta say its pretty good for AFL, thanks for the tip!
Forgive my ignorance but i never have been on the fox website and i gotta say its pretty good for AFL, thanks for the tip!
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
News Corp and Fairfax will eventually all go this way you would think. But the question I have is what about the ABC website? They have a good news website and their sport section is ok, won't people just turn to the free option in the future?
News Corp and Fairfax will eventually all go this way you would think. But the question I have is what about the ABC website? They have a good news website and their sport section is ok, won't people just turn to the free option in the future?
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Buggered if I know why anyone would pay to read nonsense from a drunken, stale cigarette smelling hobo like Robbo anyway.
Besides, sticking the name of the article you want to read into google news brings up the whole thing up for free.
Buggered if I know why anyone would pay to read nonsense from a drunken, stale cigarette smelling hobo like Robbo anyway.
Besides, sticking the name of the article you want to read into google news brings up the whole thing up for free.
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
It won't last long.
I understand why they've done it - their revenue stream has been on the decline for a while now. Readership is down, advertising spend is down in a lot of areas - what are they gonna do?
But it is a crap magazine and they've just completely priced themselves out of the market.
If Bigfooty (probably THE most footy obsessed people in the world) refuse to pay for their footy content - who is actually going to pay?
It won't last long.
I understand why they've done it - their revenue stream has been on the decline for a while now. Readership is down, advertising spend is down in a lot of areas - what are they gonna do?
But it is a crap magazine and they've just completely priced themselves out of the market.
If Bigfooty (probably THE most footy obsessed people in the world) refuse to pay for their footy content - who is actually going to pay?
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Same applies to the actual Herald Sun to be fair... now they're just charging people for both packs of Burger Rings.
Same applies to the actual Herald Sun to be fair... now they're just charging people for both packs of Burger Rings.
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Well they can get F**ked as I won't pay for it.
Why should news Cost people.
Greedy C**ts
Well they can get F**ked as I won't pay for it.
Why should news Cost people.
Greedy C**ts
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Does not really do a Good Job for the Main Sports Though
Does not really do a Good Job for the Main Sports Though
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
The Age are the big winners out of this.
The Age are the big winners out of this.
News has cost money for hundreds of years mate.
Ever seen someone pay for a newspaper? How 'bout a magazine? There's your news right there.
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Re: roflmfao @ the HS trying to CHARGE people to read Mark Robinson's "The Tackle"
They still have a paywall, but given not many read The Australian anyway for anything but political polls do they really matter?
They still have a paywall, but given not many read The Australian anyway for anything but political polls do they really matter?
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
EFA.
The advertising that floods the online news pays for the writers produce, and now they're proposing we pay again. For what, IMO mostly fluff/rubbish "produce".
Sports news will be still be available FREE elswhere for us all to read.
EFA.
The advertising that floods the online news pays for the writers produce, and now they're proposing we pay again. For what, IMO mostly fluff/rubbish "produce".
Sports news will be still be available FREE elswhere for us all to read.
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
huh???
Do you even know what google's chore business is?
you dont think they'll follow? weren't they the first to charge for their app?
huh???
Do you even know what google's chore business is?
you dont think they'll follow? weren't they the first to charge for their app?
grizzlym
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From my point of view they are just asking us to pay for a publishing channel. The content, for me, is mediocre at best, and is something I'd flick through it it is around, but not pay for again. They are not offering anything above what they normally do. But it's their product and they set the initial value - it remains to be seen if consumers place the same value on it.
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
I am enjoying everyone proclaiming that it won't work. Didn't realise you were all media experts.
News Corp have been rolling this out for years. They know what they're doing and it was inevitable. It will work and it's here to last. Get used to it.
I am enjoying everyone proclaiming that it won't work. Didn't realise you were all media experts.
News Corp have been rolling this out for years. They know what they're doing and it was inevitable. It will work and it's here to last. Get used to it.
grizzlym
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
This would be the same News Corp that bought MySpace for $580 million in 2005 and sold it for $35 million in 2011?
New media/the internet has not been particularly successful for the company.
As far as I'm aware this is the fifth newspaper that News has paywalled, after the WSJ, The Times, NOTW and The Australian.
The WSJ is a specialised paper, The Times and to a lesser degree The Australian are upmarket papers with, I'd suggest, a readership demographic more likely to pay for content/opinion.
When the NOTW was placed behind a paywall, News ran a series of expensive exclusives, both pics & stories, in an attempt to generate take up. The paper was closed before any reasonable conclusion as to its long term success could be reached.
So the HUN is a first for News.
A daily tabloid with a large readership is now asking visitors to pay for online content it previously got for free.
That content is essentially analysis and opinion.
Unless the page visitations (on the free articles) drop significantly then the paywall is likely to be retained, but I honestly see no reason why it should change the habits of online readers and become a significant money spinner for News Limited.
This would be the same News Corp that bought MySpace for $580 million in 2005 and sold it for $35 million in 2011?
New media/the internet has not been particularly successful for the company.
As far as I'm aware this is the fifth newspaper that News has paywalled, after the WSJ, The Times, NOTW and The Australian.
The WSJ is a specialised paper, The Times and to a lesser degree The Australian are upmarket papers with, I'd suggest, a readership demographic more likely to pay for content/opinion.
When the NOTW was placed behind a paywall, News ran a series of expensive exclusives, both pics & stories, in an attempt to generate take up. The paper was closed before any reasonable conclusion as to its long term success could be reached.
So the HUN is a first for News.
A daily tabloid with a large readership is now asking visitors to pay for online content it previously got for free.
That content is essentially analysis and opinion.
Unless the page visitations (on the free articles) drop significantly then the paywall is likely to be retained, but I honestly see no reason why it should change the habits of online readers and become a significant money spinner for News Limited.
Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Most HUN SPORT scribes' opinions can be heard free on TV and radio. How is the HUN so different that they now charge $150 every year to read the same news?
Most HUN SPORT scribes' opinions can be heard free on TV and radio. How is the HUN so different that they now charge $150 every year to read the same news?
grizzlym
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Re: Herald-Sun.com.au goes "user pays"
Agree with everything you say. Rather than develop a specific online offering, they have simply opted to charge for the 'publishing'. This is, of course, their prerogative, but I'd suggest that it will bite them.
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Agree with everything you say. Rather than develop a specific online offering, they have simply opted to charge for the 'publishing'. This is, of course, their prerogative, but I'd suggest that it will bite them.
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