Junction oval deal looking likely

[Pessimistic]

They tried the cricket thing at punt road oval about ten years ago. How did that go ?

Maybe those concerned about waste should look into that

 

[grouse mate]

Article in todays Hun quoting Cricket Victoria says their studies have come up with a figure of 40 million still needed to fund the project. Still a pipe dream and the AFL have now pissed off CV because they feel they are hijacking the development of Junction Oval.

 

[final fight]

tax payers money has no place in the AFL. Residents should boycott their rates.

 

[JackFlash]

I was saying this two years ago and Saints fans shot me down in flames.....St.Kilda must return to the Junction Oval or they could very well disappear all together. This move will save them.

 

[le dominateur]

tax payers money has no place in the AFL. Residents should boycott their rates.

Agree, taxpayers money should only be spent on soccer and the rugbies.

 

[Greater Gattsby]

St Kilda's first mistake was moving out of Moorabbin.

Should've done it up instead of moving to Seaford.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

St Kilda's first mistake was moving out of Moorabbin.

Should've done it up instead of moving to Seaford.

Moorabbin didn't want us, they were trying to get rid of us.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Where do St Kilda train in summer if cricket's being played there?

Also don't make the season longer FFS. It's too long as it is.

We get an oval next to the junction oval to train at.

Moorabbin didn't want us, they were trying to get rid of us.

I find it funny the council wants us back after kicking us out.

 

[grouse mate]

I find it funny the council wants us back after kicking us out.

They never did. Had nothing to do with having a training base exactly the same as what you got at Seaford, it was about pokie machines.

 

[Plugger35]

Nice work Gill.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

We get an oval next to the junction oval to train at.



I find it funny the council wants us back after kicking us out.

Junction Oval is Port Phillip, Moorabbin is Kingston also there may have been a changing of the guard at Kingston since the club had the issues.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

They never did. Had nothing to do with having a training base exactly the same as what you got at Seaford, it was about pokie machines.

All we wanted to do was move our existing poker machines that we needed to underwrite the financials of the redevelopment.

 

[grouse mate]

All we wanted to do was move our existing poker machines that we needed to underwrite the financials of the redevelopment.

And at the time there was a big push for councils to lower the number pokie machines.

 

[JeffDunne]

They never did. Had nothing to do with having a training base exactly the same as what you got at Seaford, it was about pokie machines.

Actually it was about a training base, the venue investment was to help pay for it.

Regardless, even if the redevelopment of Moorabbin had happened, this move would still make sense.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

And at the time there was a big push for councils to lower the number pokie machines.

It was ridiculous that Kingston and StKilda couldnt see eye to eye on that. They have both lost out because of their stubbornness.

Will be interesting to see what the Pokie situation will be at Junction Oval or indeed what it was at Seaford.

 

[grouse mate]

It was ridiculous that Kingston and StKilda couldnt see eye to eye on that. They have both lost out because of their stubbornness.

Will be interesting to see what the Pokie situation will be at Junction Oval or indeed what it was at Seaford.

There is none at Seaford, that's what makes no sense, they kept them at Moorabbin. The whole Seaford episode is some hot-headed football admins cracking the sads because they didn't get what they wanted. Tax payer funded 25 year lease on an oval they don't want to use.

 

[grouse mate]

This is the cricket side of the story.

http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list...an-cricket-and-community-centre-at-crossroads

In a statement released by CV on Sunday, chief executive officer Tony Dodemaide says there is still a long way to go with a number of obstacles still to overcome, the biggest being the funding gap.

"We note the story regarding the potential codevelopment at the Junction Oval in The Age yesterday and in particular, AFL’s new public commitment of $10 million, which is welcomed," Dodemaide said.

"At the same time, there is still a long way to go to work through the numerous issues that remain to determine if the football/cricket codevelopment model is viable.

"The most significant issues to be resolved include the project cost and the current funding gap.

"Official estimates of the amended scope, including the additional football related requirements, range from $59 to $74 million depending on a number of significant factors.

"The AFL’s new commitment of $10 million, combined with cricket’s initial pledge of $10 million and the State Government’s conditional commitment of a further $10 million, provides $30 million so far.

"This means the funding gap is somewhere between $29 to $44 million, not $15 million as reported yesterday.

"We are also very conscious that a range of stakeholders, particular in the area local to Albert Park, need to be consulted about the codevelopment alternative and its possible impacts.

"The previous version, based on a cricket centre with a number of community facilities, was designed in extensive consultation with Parks Victoria and local stakeholders and enjoyed wide support.

 

[Teagueeee15]

There is none at Seaford, that's what makes no sense, they kept them at Moorabbin. The whole Seaford episode is some hot-headed football admins cracking the sads because they didn't get what they wanted. Tax payer funded 25 year lease on an oval they don't want to use.

Yep the pokies venue is still at Moorabbin despite St Kilda being long gone.

 

[JeffDunne]

Yep the pokies venue is still at Moorabbin despite St Kilda being long gone.

Huh?

 

[Rob]

Surely Cricket Victoria want Junction oval in a state to be able to host matches - i.e improved spectator and communication facilities, possibly better practice facilities.

St Kilda don't need any of that. They need a training and admin base. I don't see where the crossover is. They can't be just going along for the ride, as they must be having purpose built facilities exclusively (or at least most of the time) for them.

Not the sort of thing the AFL should be funding given their funding of Seaford.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

State Cricket needs to be able to hold crowds of up to 1000. AFL teams draw bigger crowds at training than Shefflield Shield cricket.

That doesnt justify a 75 mil investment. They can play their 20-20 games at Etihad.

Something doesnt add up. Cricket - a dying sport - its just trying to wring some money out of the AFL.

 

[krisholio14]

The Junction Oval should have been upgraded years ago. It's about bloody time.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

That doesnt justify a 75 mil investment. They can play their 20-20 games at Etihad.

The 20/20 Big bash games wouldn't interfere with football at the G. That runs December-January.

 

[bradrowe#32]

Casey was always meant to be only a part time home of the dees though (just a tad more than the rare times we go now). But we still play our VFL alliance there. And I was at Casey for VAFA finals today it's not like the place goes unused.

Casey Fields would be one of the most frequently used ovals in Melbourne. One of its main tenants, Cranbourne FC, is one of the biggest football clubs in Australia when you consider the open age, underage and female teams. A few years back, the local council actually tried to kick them off because the ground was being used so much by the club. It also holds various football carnivals and junior finals throughout the year, so it's been a great investment for the whole community down that way.