You just don't get it, do you?Middleton pretty much told ASADA not to proceed until his decision. I think he will view this latest ASADA effort dimly - probably as dimly as Aurora's day in court.
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You just don't get it, do you?Middleton pretty much told ASADA not to proceed until his decision. I think he will view this latest ASADA effort dimly - probably as dimly as Aurora's day in court.
That's why players didn't join the lawsuit.It's stated in the article. ASADA can only give a discount of 75% if there was full cooperation.
Yes but I bet they'd be pissed off if players acknowledge they took peds and didn't get banned for it.There is actually a lot of fatigue in this issue outside this board. My mates don't even want to discuss it anymore, they are sick of it and just want it over
I'd say ASADA would be liasing very closely with WADA when offering any deals.I think it could go something like this... ASADA say 6 month ban if you drop court case and confess to PEDs. Essendon confess to PEDs. WADA overrule ban and make it 2 years.
There is actually a lot of fatigue in this issue outside this board. My mates don't even want to discuss it anymore, they are sick of it and just want it over
I think you'll find that majority of people don't care any more.
Yes but I bet they'd be pissed off if players acknowledge they took peds and didn't get banned for it.
It doesn't matter what the people on street think. Its the International Olympic Committee that funds WADA - they will withdraw funding if the code is not honoured to the letter or disband it altogether. Do you really think WADA will take that risk? They have a duty of care to protect professional sports ensuring it is safe and fair.
Then why are so many still here?
Bad news for Essendon, this is NOT going to just go away.
How many exactly and what proportion of the football supporter base? From my sample the people still passionate about this are very much in the minority.Then why are so many still here?
That's the thing I can't understand. They seem to see any development as a win, no matter who damning it is to their case. The longer Essendon continue to draw this out, the worse it is going to be for them. Had they cooperated 18 months ago, this whole thing would be done and dusted, and Essendon would be preparing for the 2014 finals without this still hanging over their heads.
The weird thing about the Fed court case is the lack of direct involvement of players in the proceeding
They either follow the proper procedure or ASADA is a joke.Actually not necessarily. Was talking to my dad about the case and he basically said he's sick of hearing about it, doesn't care anymore, and just wants to watch the footy now (and he was one who was pretty neg efc initially)
The outrage here is still very strong, but I was actually surprised how "over it" a lot of footy supporters are
How do you know, they could have finished last without the drugsNo what im saying is what ever they took did jack s**t didn't enhance performance.
Makes senseThis was a deliberate ploy by the bombers to get two bites of the cherry. They left the players out of the court case so that when it was thrown out they could still plead "full cooperation". Hard to plead "full cooperation" when you're taking ASADA to court. They did it so they could have two chances of getting away with it. This is why ASADA pushed to include the players in the court case.
Yeah, that's what it is.Bloodlust?
I don't think Telsa's point (whilst both wrong and over-reaching) should completely be ignored. It may be seen as not being in the spirit of the agreement at court.You just don't get it, do you?
Keeping their options openThat's why players didn't join the lawsuit.
Middleton can only rule on points of law. He cant prevent the players making a deal which they might think is in their favour.I don't think Telsa's point (whilst both wrong and over-reaching) should completely be ignored. It may be seen as not being in the spirit of the agreement at court.
That said, I don't think Middleton would be a fan of any deal which excludes the possibility of a deal between the players and ASADA when the players aren't even applicants in the matter
It's becoming very clear that ASADA have been instructed by the Minister (instructed by Cabinet?) to bring closure to this mess whatever the price.
It would also mean an admission of guilt though by accepting it, and that has consequences.