List Mgmt. Pick your Round 1 team for 2014

[mike123]

For God sake don't knee Youngy - it's fragile enough as it is.

I forgot C. Young and P. Karnesis

 

[well left]

This 22 is purely what i'd like to see by maybe Round 10.

B: Toovey - Brown - Williams
HB: Lamumba - Reid - Scharenberg
C: Young - Ball - Sidebottom
HF: Dwyer - White - Beams
F: Elliott - Cloke - Fasolo
R: Grundy - Swan - Pendelbury
Int: Adams, Thomas, Freeman, Macaffer

A few players pretty stiff to miss. I think our depth is magnificent.

Seedsman, Maxwell, Kennedy, Lynch, Sinclair, Keeffe and Goldsack aren't stars, but they can play a role.

I've got high hopes for Karnezis and we've got some promising young guys like Oxley, Broomhead, Martin, Marsh and Langdon floating around too.

I don't think we will go that short. If Reid doesn't play forward alongside Cloke and White then Lynch or Karnezis will play as the third tall.

If Reid does play forward I'd expect to see one of maxwell or Goldsack in defense to take the third tall. Keeffe will be best 22 I reckon also.

 

[Men of Steele]

B: Toovey - Brown - Williams
HB: Keefe - Reid - Scharenberg
C: Lamumba - Pendlebury - Sidebottom
HF: Swan - White - Karnezis
F: Elliott - Cloke - Blair
R: Grundy - Beams - Adams

Int: Ball, Macaffer, Fasolo
Sub Seedsman
First time poster so go easy, Injury free with all available i would like to see Karnezis as the third tallish forward i think he will be fantastic for us straight up and i have liked what i have seen from him in the past. Swannie forward is a must this year as i think we have a very strong midfield without Swannie in there but up forward he would give us so much versatility and really is a nightmare match up for the opposition defence. Ball and Thomas are fighting for the same spot for me but Ball gets first go. Maxwell may well start the season but Scharenberg the obvious one to take up that role when fit. Fasolo is there but that spot could go to anyone of 10 at the moment. Seedsman gets the sub due to versatility for mine

 

[Seedsfan]

FB: Marley Williams, Nathan Brown, Ben Reid
CHB: Paul Seedsman, Lachlan Keffee, Clinton Young
C: Sam Dwyer, Dane Swan, Steele Sidebottom
CHF: Alex Fasolo, Jesse White, Luke Ball
FF: Jamie Elliott, Travis Cloke, Matthew Scharenberg
Foll: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams
Bench: Taylor Adams, Heritier Lumumba, Alan Toovey, Nick Maxwell

 

[RuFiO]

Foll: Grundy
Pendlebury

Rinse and repeat from centre square.

 

[carnthepies19]

B: Williams, Keeffe, Brown
HB: Sidebottom, Reid, Scharenberg(if fit if not Seedsman)
C: Thomas, Ball, Beams
HF: Kennedy, White, Adamsp
F: Elliott, Cloke, Dwyer
Foll: Grundy, Pendlebury, Swan

Int: Lumumba, Freeman, Young(if fit if not Blair), Macaffer (to be replaced by Toovey when fit.)

Maxwell, Goldsack and Fasolo unlucky to miss out.

 

[forwardflanker]

Round 1:

B: Sinclair Brown Williams
HB: Maxwell Keefe Seedsman
C: Beams Swan Young
HF: White Reid Sidebottom
F: Elliot Cloke Dwyer
R: Grundy Pendlebury Ball
I: Macaffer Lumumba Adams Blair

Hopefully by the end of the season:

B: Sinclair Keefe Williams
HB: Scharenberg Reid Seedsman
C: Beams Swan Sidebottom
HF: Dwyer White Mooney
F: Elliot Cloke Witts
R: Grundy Pendlebury Ball
I: Macaffer Fasolo Adams Broomhead

This team has:
- Youth - basically only two veteran in Swan and Ball.

- Finally a few quality users of the ball across half back - Scharenberg, Reid, Seedsman and Sinclair all very creative with their play. Our half back set up has sucked in recent seasons so this will be a huge improvement on last season where we've had Maxwell, O'Brien, Toovey all who are poor users of the ball. I haven't put Toovey in even though if fit he is almost certainly best 22. It's difficult to displace Williams from the back 6 on 2013 form and I think both of them down there will negatively impact the quality of our rebound. If Toovey stays fit, one of them will have to play through midfield or an Toovey's case possibly as a utility.

- Midfield with great depth and well balanced now that Adams comes in and plays inside midfield. I'm also hoping that Fasolo can make the transition there, he has the skills and should have the right build for midfield, his tank is an issue though.

- Two specialist rucks. Big fan of this and the added bonus with Witts is that he creates a nasty matchup for opposition defenders. Also with White's mobility we shouldn't seem too top heavy especially with Elliot and hopefully Mooney who should be good at the defensive forward pressure. Both Witts and Grundy need the game time and will not be physically developed enough to play 80%+ in the ruck. I would prefer them sharing duties, getting the experience whilst not getting burnt out rather than going into matches with a non specialist back up like Lynch or White.

- I see our next tilt built around these players. Brown is very stiff, he hasn't really done anything wrong however I regard Keefe as a better shut down defender and I think it's unlikely we'll play all 3 of Reid, Keefe and Brown in defence. Lamumba, Maxwell, Blair and Lynch have been solid players in their time and whilst they're around the mark for best 22 I can't see them being in a best 22 in 2-3 years time when we could be realistically challenging. For that reason, and assuming they're capable of competing to make the 8 (which they should be), I'd prefer to be using the younger players listed above as our best 22 rather than using players who might be marginally better however will not be around in 2-3 years time.

 

[GETSOMENUTS]

B: Toovey - Brown - Williams
HB: Keefe - Reid - Scharenberg
C: Lamumba - Pendlebury - Sidebottom
HF: Swan - White - Karnezis
F: Elliott - Cloke - Blair
R: Grundy - Beams - Adams

Int: Ball, Macaffer, Fasolo
Sub Seedsman
First time poster so go easy, Injury free with all available i would like to see Karnezis as the third tallish forward i think he will be fantastic for us straight up and i have liked what i have seen from him in the past. Swannie forward is a must this year as i think we have a very strong midfield without Swannie in there but up forward he would give us so much versatility and really is a nightmare match up for the opposition defence. Ball and Thomas are fighting for the same spot for me but Ball gets first go. Maxwell may well start the season but Scharenberg the obvious one to take up that role when fit. Fasolo is there but that spot could go to anyone of 10 at the moment. Seedsman gets the sub due to versatility for mine

Looks good although I think Blair will have a tough time playing much in 2014. Also Welcome to the boards

 

[Jelly Bean]

Plus unlimited changes at all breaks

Well, the changes during the breaks are actually limited to four....

 

[Hinequarters]

Williams Brown Lumumba
Seedsman Keeffe Maxwell

Grundy Pendlebury Beams
Adams Sidebottom Thomas

Swan Reid Macaffer
White Cloke Elliott

Ball Goldsack Young Dwyer

 

[Robroy22]

Fasolo Keeffe Toovey
Oxley (but it will probably be Maxy) Brown Sharenberg
Adams Ball Sidebottom
Swan Cloke Pendlebury
White Reid Blair
Grundy Beams Williams

Elliott Thomas McCaffer Goldsack

 

[blaze036]

Shocked so many people want fasolo in defence

Has never defended in his life and is brilliant up forward, plus he would hate going in the backline and lose his flair

 

[HappyRed]

|Defence|
Williams Brown Scharenberg
Seedsman Keeffe Maxwell

|Midfield|
Grundy Pendlebury Beams
Thomas Sidebottom Lumumba

|Forward|
Swan Reid Macaffer
White Cloke Elliott

Ball Goldsack Adams Dwyer

 

[well left]

What I would like
B: Williams - Brown - Reid
HB: Broomhead - Keeffe - Sidebottom
C: O'Brien - Ball - Seedsman
HF: Beams - Cloke - White
F: Elliott - Paine - Fasolo
Foll: Grundy - Pendlebury - Swan
Inter: Thomas - Adams - Macaffer - Young

I'll update this since trade period is done and we have no Paine anymore..... and I have changed my mind on a couple of things.

B: Williams - Brown - Oxley
HB: Maxwell/Scharenberg - Keeffe - Toovey
C: Lamumba - Ball - Seedsman
HF: Beams - Cloke - Sidebottom
F: Elliott - Reid - White
Foll: Grundy - Pendlebury - Swan
Inter: Thomas - Adams - Macaffer - Fasolo

Realistically I think we will see Armstrong and Maxwell in the back 6 to start with but my hope is that Oxley and Scharenberg can break into the team. It does make the back 6 a bit young but you can always swing a Lamumba or Reid back during games. May be that we rotate Ox and Berg as the young defender with Maxy or Armstrong taking the other spot.

I now want Sidebottom on a forward flank as I like his awareness and natural crumbing game forward of centre. I know people will want Blair in for pressure but for me that is all he provides and the tackle pressure will come from Beams back full time and Adams..... Adams has basically taken Blair's spot for mine.

I think our forward line structured this way starts to look more dangerous and has more options than it did this year. You have Cloke, Reid and White as your talls, Elliott and Fasolo as pretty much permanent smalls and I'd then rotate Sidebottom, Beams, Adams, Thomas and Swan through there as well as the middle.

Macaffer is in as the tagger although I do like other posters' thoughts of Williams playing that role purely because Marley seems to win just about every contest he is in. For Williams to come up into the middle you would have to bring in a Goldsack or Sinclair (he did actually show promise down back). Macaffer's focus for the preseason should be on his endurance and then his ability to hurt his opponent the other way. We all want big bodied mids and Caff definitely fits that mould..... more so than a Karnezis IMO.

The only sticking point in my mind was Seedsman on the wing. I am a huge fan and think he could do real damage off a wing but he needs to find consistency which should come with another preseason and more experience.

I'd love to find room in this team for Broomhead playing forward (maybe for Fasolo as Fas may struggle to be fit Rd 1) and Freeman but it is getting hard to find room for all this young talent. Realistically I think we will have a group of maybe 4 being Broomhead, Freeman, Seedsman and Fasolo rotating through best 21, sub and VFL.

 

[loki04]

Round 1:

B: Sinclair Brown Williams
HB: Maxwell Keefe Seedsman
C: Beams Swan Young
HF: White Reid Sidebottom
F: Elliot Cloke Dwyer
R: Grundy Pendlebury Ball
I: Macaffer Lumumba Adams Blair

Hopefully by the end of the season:

B: Sinclair Keefe Williams
HB: Scharenberg Reid Seedsman
C: Beams Swan Sidebottom
HF: Dwyer White Mooney
F: Elliot Cloke Witts
R: Grundy Pendlebury Ball
I: Macaffer Fasolo Adams Broomhead

This team has:
- Youth - basically only two veteran in Swan and Ball.

- Finally a few quality users of the ball across half back - Scharenberg, Reid, Seedsman and Sinclair all very creative with their play. Our half back set up has sucked in recent seasons so this will be a huge improvement on last season where we've had Maxwell, O'Brien, Toovey all who are poor users of the ball. I haven't put Toovey in even though if fit he is almost certainly best 22. It's difficult to displace Williams from the back 6 on 2013 form and I think both of them down there will negatively impact the quality of our rebound. If Toovey stays fit, one of them will have to play through midfield or an Toovey's case possibly as a utility.

- Midfield with great depth and well balanced now that Adams comes in and plays inside midfield. I'm also hoping that Fasolo can make the transition there, he has the skills and should have the right build for midfield, his tank is an issue though.

- Two specialist rucks. Big fan of this and the added bonus with Witts is that he creates a nasty matchup for opposition defenders. Also with White's mobility we shouldn't seem too top heavy especially with Elliot and hopefully Mooney who should be good at the defensive forward pressure. Both Witts and Grundy need the game time and will not be physically developed enough to play 80%+ in the ruck. I would prefer them sharing duties, getting the experience whilst not getting burnt out rather than going into matches with a non specialist back up like Lynch or White.

- I see our next tilt built around these players. Brown is very stiff, he hasn't really done anything wrong however I regard Keefe as a better shut down defender and I think it's unlikely we'll play all 3 of Reid, Keefe and Brown in defence. Lamumba, Maxwell, Blair and Lynch have been solid players in their time and whilst they're around the mark for best 22 I can't see them being in a best 22 in 2-3 years time when we could be realistically challenging. For that reason, and assuming they're capable of competing to make the 8 (which they should be), I'd prefer to be using the younger players listed above as our best 22 rather than using players who might be marginally better however will not be around in 2-3 years time.

Both Toovey and Williams would be ideal taggers if they can get the tank over preseason. I know caff did some good jobs but he gets eaten by the more agile and quicker mids.

 

[loki04]

B. Williams Brown Toovey
HB. Labumba Keeffe Seedsman
C. Young Pendles Beams
HF. Sidearse Reid White
F. Elliot Cloke Swan
R. Grundy Ball Thomas

Int. Adams Dwyer Kennedy
Sub. Freeman

Emg. Fas, Goldensack, Wittsend, Frosty

I don't think we will see the Bergster till mid year.

 

[nahnah]

My round one team would be.
B: Toovey - Brown - Williams
HB: Seedsman - Keefe - Maxwell
C: Lumumba - Beams - Young
HF: Swan - Reid - Thomas
F: Elliott - Cloke - White
R: Grundy - Swan - Pendlebury (C)

Int: Ball, Adams, Fasolo, Sidebottom

Would be good to see tooves, fas and young play round 1!
No need to rush sharenberg, freeman or broomy
Clearly a host of players missing that will filter in a stages: sack, pk, sinks, huddo, benken, caff, blair armstrong, martin and lynch

 

[nahnah]

Good small lockdown defenders are so hard to find, we have a beauty in Marley. I don't want to see him play anywhere else.... We need him in the back line, he wants to play mid but he i think he is way more valuable in defence! Beats his man, breaks tackles, sets up run.

Elim final: Marley - 1 goal v Grey - 0 goal (My only highlight of that game)

 

[Hinequarters]

This is more a pre-season competition squad rather than 1st round

Backs
Armstrong Keeffe Williams
Broomhead Reid Lumumba

Midfield
Grundy Pendlebury Ball
Beams Macaffer Young

Forwards
Blair White Adams
Lynch Cloke Elliott

Interchange
Thomas Goldsack Freeman Kennedy Maxwell Martin


On Modified Programs
Swan Dwyer Sidebottom Brown Karnesis

Sinclair Scharenberg Toovey Fasolo Witts​

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[TradeDraft]

Shocked so many people want fasolo in defence

Has never defended in his life and is brilliant up forward, plus he would hate going in the backline and lose his flair

Agree. Fasolo is great around goals and is a Great Finisher

 

[frizzle]

Just starting to realise why I don't normally contribute to these threads. It's too hard
Leaving some good players out who deserve a spot as well. - Maxwell, Dwyer, Sinclair, Fasolo, Lynch, Martin, Broomhead, Kennedy, Karnesis, Armstrong & Frost
I believe our new draftees will all take some time to develop & I have not included them in round 1 calculations.

Backs > M.Williams - N.Brown - L.Keeffe
H/Backs > A.Toovey - B.Reid - P.Seedsman
Centres > C.Young - L.Ball - H.Lumumba
H/Forwards > J.Elliott - J.White - D.Beams
Forwards > T.Adams - T.Cloke - Goldsack
Rucks > B.Grundy - S.Pendlebury - D.Swan

Interchange - J.Thomas - B.Macaffer - S.Sidebottom - J.Blair

 

[ksardog]

On the proviso that everyone is fit and available

B Sinclair Brown Toovey

CHB Scharenberg Keeffe Williams

C Lumumba Swan Seedsman

CHF Beams White Reid

FF Sidebottom Cloke Elliott

R Grundy Pendlebury Ball

Int Fasolo Mccaffer Thomas Adams

Flexibilty in our side looks great , fantastic depth as long as the young players continue their development. I like reid forward, gives us so much more scoring power and versatility.

I know its early for scharenberg but i see him as our next james clement but also being able to play multiple positions almost anywhere on the ground.

Sidebottom as that high half forward ( our best crumber in the side at the moment )but also can go back to a back flank like he did last year.

Fas back in the side with more hunger and a better work rate will be a major bonus, elite kick and great hands. Anywhere forward of centre for him. Our key forwards will be licking their lips with his penetrating delivery to them

Sinclair is a definate work in progress, but his speed out of the backline generates run and i suggest when he did go back he looked for more comfortable.

Couldnt find room for maxwell, goldsack or blair. Their best football is behind them in my opinion

 

[captain peanut]

Toovey brown goldsack
Reid Keefe williams
Lumumba swan sidebottom
Beams white macaffer
Elliott Cloke fasolo
Grundy pendlebury ball
Int: Blair seedsman Thomas Adams

On the fringes- maxwell Dwyer young karnezis broomhead Armstrong Sinclair witts lynch Kennedy hudson Clarke mooney oxley

Would also expect rookies like Martin and frost to be pressing , while scharenberg and freeman could both very we'll bring something to the table early in the season

A lot of people tipping us to slide big time in 2014. A lot of people gonna be very disappointed

 

[Baird]

This is the team that I want to see by mid season. If it were round 1 I would replace Scharenberg, Fasolo and Broomhead for Maxwell, Goldsack and Blair

B: Marley Williams Lachlan Keeffe Alan Toovey
HB: Matthew Scharenberg Nathan Brown Paul Seedsman
CEN: Steele Sidebottom Dayne Beams Heritier Lumumba
HF: Alex Fasolo Ben Reid Dane Swan
F: Jamie Elliott Travis Cloke Jesse White
FOLL: Brodie Grundy Scott Pendlebury Josh Thomas
BENCH: Tim Broomhead, Luke Ball, Taylor Adams, Brent Macaffer

No Young, Dwyer, Martin, Goldsack, Blair, Maxwell, Kennedy, Sinclair or Karnezis

 

[Jelly Bean]

This is the team that I want to see by mid season. If it were round 1 I would replace Scharenberg, Fasolo and Broomhead for Maxwell, Goldsack and Blair

B: Marley Williams Lachlan Keeffe Alan Toovey
HB: Matthew Scharenberg Nathan Brown Paul Seedsman
CEN: Steele Sidebottom Dayne Beams Heritier Lumumba
HF: Alex Fasolo Ben Reid Dane Swan
F: Jamie Elliott Travis Cloke Jesse White
FOLL: Brodie Grundy Scott Pendlebury Josh Thomas
BENCH: Tim Broomhead, Luke Ball, Taylor Adams, Brent Macaffer

No Young, Dwyer, Martin, Goldsack, Blair, Maxwell, Kennedy, Sinclair or Karnezis

Swap Broomhead for Young and you have the same list as me (just with players in a few diffferent positions).