It's not about missed this or that. It's about consistency in decisions. In this regard it was farcical tonight, to which the overwhelming majority of observers agree.
Round 12 Carlton V Hawthorn With Live Chat
- Thread starter DREAM TEAM BUFF
- Start date
- Tagged users None
It's not about missed this or that. It's about consistency in decisions. In this regard it was farcical tonight, to which the overwhelming majority of observers agree.
romeoh
Norm Smith Medallist
- Oct 23, 2011
- 6,199
- 4,083
- AFL Club
- Geelong
I am happy to see the whistle put away but am keen to see consistency eg the dropping the ball decision against Garlett-was it the only dropping the ball paid all night despite plenty dropped balls tonight?
Plenty of throws tonight but only a couple paid-am assuming the umpire doesn't see them all but frustrating to watch.
What about the deliberate out of bounds-did you notice the inconsistency there for the same action, a couple of minutes apart?
Pretty sure that is bewildering to me.
Fair enough. Carlton should win a flag with those guys. play on.
eddiebankbalance
Norm Smith Medallist
- Banned
- #1,129
LOOK! Hawks were flat, Carlton played a ripper game, but you still lost /off!
- Banned
- #1,130
WRONG!
From 2007 present:
Geelong received an average of 20.8 free kicks per game.
Hawthorn received an average of 19.7 free kicks per game.
Finals Free Kick Tally:
Geelong received an average of 20.3 free kicks in finals between 2007-2012.
Hawthorn received an average of 20.4 free kicks in finals between 2007-2012.
QS
Brownlow Medallist
Metaphorically or literally?
QS
Brownlow Medallist
Oh the stats. What they don't report is dubious kicks. Not a knock on Geelong, just pointing out stats don't tell the story and are fools gold as support to an argument.
QS
Brownlow Medallist
There are universes outside Bigfooty, including one in which I and 3 Carlton supporters watched the game. Each one of them said umpiring was fine and did not complain.No, but in no universe were they 'fine' tonight. Fairly amazed anyone could come to that conclusion to be honest.
Suggest you watch again. Your opinion and you're welcome to it, just recognise that you are in the vast, vast minority. Exhibit A: overwhelming assessment from neutrals in this thread.
I thought I did
I don't need to watch it again, I don't wear the mainboard gameday thread branded glasses (nor need any glasses) that view it through the eyes of an umpire critic. Seriously that's all these threads seem to degenerate into, having sookfests about how hard done by you are - needs more concrete drinking.
The 'yep' was an attempt at dethroning your criticism of the umpires with a view to making it 'seem' like it was the side's fault ultimately.
QS
Brownlow Medallist
Oh dear, you really missed my point there footscore.
QS
Brownlow Medallist
Fair enough. Would love to be in a position whereby we have won 10 in a row.. but we have our own issues at the moment. Namely next week....!
QS
Brownlow Medallist
Nah, you're a Geelong supporter. You all smell funny.sorry mate, let's remain cyber buddies though
They've already said no, Mr Kennett.
Absolutely, 100% spot on.
Lucas breaks the game open for the opposition every week. Congratulations for spotting this week's moment!
No probs. I watched it with 3 neutrals, each of them said it was the worst umpiring display they have seen for quite a while.
Disagree. Sure, usually you get the odd muppet ranting about umpire decisions that have no influence on the game, but when the absolute majority of neutrals are making the type and volume of posts that they have in this thread you tend to take that as conformation that you don't have the navy blue coloured glasses on. Speaking of which, the 20 or so "geez I hate Carlton but they are getting crucified tonight" posts in this thread are certainly testament to how hard done by we Carlton supporters are talking ourselves up as being. I mean seriously.
lol, cheers for explaining to me what I meant.
The first part of your post was wrong, the 2nd part of your post was right, that's all, and I replied to it accordingly.
Just to be clear, coz you seem to have some comprehension issues - we lost because we weren't good enough for long enough, and because Hawthorn were good enough at the pointy end. The shocking standard of umpiring was a factor in, but not the reason for, the loss.
QS
Brownlow Medallist
I've seen worse officiating and I don't really pay much attention to the umpiring posts to be honest, they are less than persuasive.No probs. I watched it with 3 neutrals, each of them said it was the worst umpiring display they have seen for quite a while.
Disagree. Sure, usually you get the odd muppet ranting about umpire decisions that have no influence on the game, but when the absolute majority of neutrals are making the type and volume of posts that they have in this thread you tend to take that as conformation that you don't have the navy blue coloured glasses on. Speaking of which, the 20 or so "geez I hate Carlton but they are getting crucified tonight" posts in this thread are certainly testament to how hard done by we Carlton supporters are talking ourselves up as being. I mean seriously.
lol, cheers for explaining to me what I meant.
The first part of your post was wrong, the 2nd part of your post was right, that's all, and I replied to it accordingly.
Just to be clear, coz you seem to have some comprehension issues - we lost because we weren't good enough for long enough, and because Hawthorn were good enough at the pointy end. The shocking standard of umpiring was a factor in, but not the reason for, the loss.
I'm glad you came to the right conclusion in the end about Carlton's second half. If your players did not give free kicks away, the umpires wouldn't pay them.
I'm glad you came to the right conclusion in the end about Carlton's second half. If your players did not give free kicks away, the umpires wouldn't pay them.
You mean the conclusion I came to in my first reply to you?
Aside from a couple of ludicrous HTB decisions, not much issue with the frees paid against us, more the blatant ones not paid against Hawthorn IMO. Apparently you can just drop the ball while being tackled now
- Sep 15, 2007
- 15,607
- 15,036
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Carlton lifted tonight but lacked the polish to put Hawthorn away when on top. As great teams do, the Hawks found a way to win in the last.
Losing Murphy obviously hurt but Carlton are a middle of the road, plodding team who played with real grunt tonight. The fact it felt they were killing it but were never more than 3 goals up says it all.
As a Hawks fan who has seen every game, it was the worst they have played this year.
Losing Murphy obviously hurt but Carlton are a middle of the road, plodding team who played with real grunt tonight. The fact it felt they were killing it but were never more than 3 goals up says it all.
As romeoh said, apparently everyone plays their worst game of the year against Carlton
As a Hawks fan who has seen every game, it was the worst they have played this year.
- Moderator
- #1,146
And that sums up the last 30 minutes of that match.
We should have won it notwithstanding the 10 frees in a row (and at least half a dozen missed the other way) between the midway point of the third quarter till the end of the match.
We just werent good enough.
Just some really inconsistent s**t there. Hodge runs ten meters, gets rund down from behind by Judd, drops the freaking ball: Play on. Cachia gets wrapped up by three Hawks at the exact same instant he collects the ball: HTB. Two identical Deliberate OOB's one gets paid, the other didnt.
Very... frustrating to watch after a fantastic physical contest early on. Respect to Hodge and Robinson for throwing themselves into it.
Man I am getting sick of these 'brave' narrow losses.
romeoh
Norm Smith Medallist
- Oct 23, 2011
- 6,199
- 4,083
- AFL Club
- Geelong
LOL re 'worst game' -'the last refuge of the scoundrel!'
ps tickets on self or what-Hawks are a very good team, not yet convinced you have the right to classify yourself as 'great'. Let's see over the next couple of years if you can justify such a claim?
- Sep 15, 2007
- 15,607
- 15,036
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
LOL re 'worst game' -'the last refuge of the scoundrel!'
ps tickets on self or what-Hawks are a very good team, not yet convinced you have the right to classify yourself as 'great'. Let's see over the next couple of years if you can justify such a claim?
Yeah 'great' was probably not the best choice of words but Im comfortable with it. The point stands.
Care to point out which hawthorn performance this year you thought was worse?
- Sep 15, 2007
- 15,607
- 15,036
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Hodge said he didn't see Murphy though.
Thought it was refreshingly honest.
Similar threads
- Poll
- Poll
- Poll
- Poll
- Poll
