Savage + picks 18 & 19 for Macca + picks 24 & 59

[Sippa]

Reading km's write up on acres.. He was clearly rated an elite ball user as a junior.. He is still a great decision maker.. But his kicking style and kicking itself is average.. What happened?

Or was it more his ability to find so much time and space he rarely turned it over.. Which is is starting to do at this level

 

[Persevering Saint]

Astounded we got out the door of the shop with this trade done. I'm so happy the rest of the AFL judge Macca on his DT score, and not on his hitouts, and especially his hitouts to advantage.

I think last year, we got Hickey, assuming he'd be second ruck to McEvoy, and then realised he was better than McEvoy. With Stanley turning the corner fitness wise, and Pierce's accelerated development, the Saintss could see where the wind was going.

We sold Macca at the perfect point: where his potential is at its peak, before it starts seriously declining. If we tried next year, We'd be trading away our backup ruck, and be lucky to get a 20 pick by itself.

Well done Pelch.

It's interesting, because most of the moaning came from opposition fans saying, "Saints, what have you done?!"

I remember me making this post at the time, and it being pretty indicative of most of our fans.

We knew.

 

[Defacto]

Wow! Your recruiters have lost the plot...

what's your opinion now mate?

 

[Defacto]

This trade is a win for Hawthorn.
But it will be a win for St Kilda in 3-4 years time.
Short term pain for long term gain.

RossFC on the money

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

I feel like this thread is going to die and be bumped a lot in the next 10 years. And I hope it is cos it likely means the trade has continued to go well for us.

Certainly makes for some good reading! Including all the deleted posts

 

[Defacto]

better yet, lets track the outcome of apeness and dunstan

wow this post sure is interesting looking back on it

 

[Marklar_33]

what's your opinion now mate?

That I'm an idiot

Blake Acres

 

[kingkingston]

wouldn't be surprised if the Saints are after Billy Longer or are gearing up to offer a good deal to the Lions for him, surely the Saints wouldn't do this deal without having a plan in place

gee i got something right

 

[SK_MD_#7]

When you think about it...

It was actually Pick 18, 19, Savage and Franklin for Hartung, McEvoy and elevated Ceglar pick.

 

[bird_man]

When you think about it...

It was actually Pick 18, 19, Savage and Franklin for Hartung, McEvoy and elevated Ceglar pick.

I don't remember Buddy playing for the Saints?

 

[SK_MD_#7]

I don't remember Buddy playing for the Saints?

No, but Hawthorn lost him to get that Pick 19 we took Acres with.

 

[Hayes4PM]

This trade is a win for Hawthorn.
But it will be a win for St Kilda in 3-4 years time.
Short term pain for long term gain.

 

[bird_man]

No, but Hawthorn lost him to get that Pick 19 we took Acres with.

You have us with Savage, pick 18, pick 19 and Franklin.

Hawthorn lost Franklin but we never had him

 

[SK_MD_#7]

You have us with Savage, pick 18, pick 19 and Franklin.

Hawthorn lost Franklin but we never had him

No, I didn't.

I have it as they lost Franklin also for a pick that got sent to us.

Franklin remains a Hawk and they don't get that pick 19 compo.

 

[Hayes4PM]

That I'm an idiot

Blake Acres

Some gems slipped through to the end of the 1st and the 2nd round in that draft; Acres, Dunstan, Taylor, Hartung, Merrett, Impey. Might be one that gets looked back on as a really strong year.

 

[bird_man]

No, I didn't.

I have it as they lost Franklin also for a pick that got sent to us.

Franklin remains a Hawk and they don't get that pick 19 compo.

Well they either lost Savage, pick 18 and Franklin

Or Savage, pick 18 and pick 19.

But they didn't give up both Franklin and 19 in the deal.

Not that it matters.

 

[thepoyz]

Reading km's write up on acres.. He was clearly rated an elite ball user as a junior.. He is still a great decision maker.. But his kicking style and kicking itself is average.. What happened?

Or was it more his ability to find so much time and space he rarely turned it over.. Which is is starting to do at this level

This, he is going to be special...

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Reading km's write up on acres.. He was clearly rated an elite ball user as a junior.. He is still a great decision maker.. But his kicking style and kicking itself is average.. What happened?

Or was it more his ability to find so much time and space he rarely turned it over.. Which is is starting to do at this level

Also the difference in pace between TAC and AFL is enormous. He had a ridiculous amount of time to think and execute as a junior. Now, less so.

Just needs game time to get used to the speed of the game, I don't believe his (very good) skills are gone or were never there.

Be good to hear what Knightmare thinks of him these days and whether he can still reach the highs he predicted pre-draft.

 

[SSSSSS]

Perfect trade for both parties given our respective situations.

Great to see Savage playing so well. Always had time for him.

 

[RossFC]

RossFC on the money

I could see that your list manager had a good plan in place and it definitely has paid off.

 

[Diehard Saint]

My Hawks mate was rapt to get Macca, but unhappy to lose Savage.
This has been
a win for Hawks
a win for Macca
A win, win, win for Saints with Savage, Acres and Dunstan
...and a massive loss for those hand-wringing "what have you done Saints, trading away your future captain?" experts in the media.

 

[Nutsngum]

Savage was the cream to that trade. 18 + 19 in a superdraft year was good enough but Savage always had the goods to be that sweeper we needed.

 

[King_Steele]

Savage was the cream to that trade. 18 + 19 in a superdraft year was good enough but Savage always had the goods to be that sweeper we needed.

+1.

Sav's kicking is BJ esque.

 

[hayes]

Was stoked with this trade from day one. The way people carried on was like ruckmen were just irreplaceable. Cashed in on Macca at the perfect time and are now reaping the rewards. Two mids and an extremely damaging flanker, Savage is taking the piss with some of the passes he pulls off.

 

[SK_MD_#7]

Was stoked with this trade from day one. The way people carried on was like ruckmen were just irreplaceable. Cashed in on Macca at the perfect time and are now reaping the rewards. Two mids and an extremely damaging flanker, Savage is taking the piss with some of the passes he pulls off.

I was annoyed first off but grew to it.