Certified Legendary Thread 34 Essendon* Players suspended for doping violations - No opposition fans. Check OP for thread rules

[Red Bull]

I'm not naive enough to believe that 30+ grown adult men didn't have at least some reservations about a series of multiple injections over a period of months.

No one, not even the mythic "good but dumb footballer" can be that stupid as to take weekly injections over months and not question if what they are doing is right.

Say no more ...

You sir have nailed it !!

 

[Juddafideslenko]

So now that Essendope have locked in a spot in the finals, surely there would be no chance of them
accepting any deals ASADA may offer up for reduced suspensions would there?

In doing so they would effectively suspend themselves from the finals series, due to
infraction notices being served immediately, and any 'reduced penalties' commencing
forthwith.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems that if Essendope want to participate in the 2014
finals series, they will have to reject all offers from ASADA.

hmmmmmm?

 

[Juddalenko]

Essendon players are totally going to get backdated bans.

 

[thylacine60]

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Essendon players are totally going to get backdated bans.

ok, even if they do, they will have to serve some time out of competition.
Eg Cronulla's 3 game scenario that has to be served forthwith.
So Essendope will miss the finals surely?

 

[Juddafideslenko]

WADA haven't been served any briefs regarding the Cronulla/Essendope cases regardless.
I doubt they will allow this

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Cronulla's alledged 'deal' hasn't been rubber stamped by WADA as yet.
Methinks they wont nod to that.

 

[Juddalenko]

This is where the conflict of interest lies for the AFL. Are they fighting for the integrity of the game - thus pushing to punish fully or are they swayed by the $ they would lose by doing so?

 

[All Australian]

Cronulla's alledged 'deal' hasn't been rubber stamped by WADA as yet.
Methinks they wont nod to that.

. Lawyers for the players were given assurances from WADA officials that they won't challenge the ban.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

This is where the conflict of interest lies for the AFL. Are they fighting for the integrity of the game - thus pushing to punish fully or are they swayed by the $ they would lose by doing so?

I don't think they have much of a say in the end.
They hand down the penalties and WADA say yay or nay

 

[Juddafideslenko]

. Lawyers for the players were given assurances from WADA officials that they won't challenge the ban.

They recieved the assurances from ASADA, not WADA.
WADA have yet to be briefed on the 'outcome'

 

[Juddalenko]

Not now they don't - but they did for nearly 2 years.

 

[All Australian]

They recieved the assurances from ASADA, not WADA.
WADA have yet to be briefed on the 'outcome'

I was of the belief thar ASADA offered the bans. The players accepted the bans, only after speaking to WADA.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Apparently the player's lawyers were informed by ASADA that the ruling body (WADA)
wouldn't come over the top.
News to WADA it seems.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...gbyleague&nk=fcc0b512c9900f904df8055d0656d811

 

[Silvagnis]

Dons treated 'pretty badly'

"I think they’ve been dealt a hand that’s been awful, so for them to make it [finals], yeah … it’s fantastic for them," Thompson said. "I’m glad they’ve got something out of it and that was the reason why we’re all here, for them, because they’ve been treated pretty badly."

"I've never experienced anything like it, so much pressure on young men," Thompson said. "It's easily understated how much pressure is on them. We just take it for granted now that we're allowed to do anything to them."

Thread has peaked.

 

[Tony Lynn 15]

Dons treated 'pretty badly'

"I think they’ve been dealt a hand that’s been awful, so for them to make it [finals], yeah … it’s fantastic for them," Thompson said. "I’m glad they’ve got something out of it and that was the reason why we’re all here, for them, because they’ve been treated pretty badly."
"I've never experienced anything like it, so much pressure on young men," Thompson said. "It's easily understated how much pressure is on them. We just take it for granted now that we're allowed to do anything to them."

Thread has peaked.

Yeah Mark like pumping them full of illegal drugs without their consent!

 

[Blueboys11]

Dons treated 'pretty badly'


Thread has peaked.

One of the most incredulous things I've ever read.

Treated badly??? You are a pack of goddam drug cheats playing up to legal technicalities to avoid copping punishment. Disgusting!!!

 

[Big Sim]

So Cronulla players get to serve a suspension while playing...my head is about to explode at the notion. And Essendon have been offered the same deal?

Surely to Christ WADA will say hey, those Aussies have lost the plot, on behalf of all the non cheating athletes in the world we had better go and straighten them out...

 

[Jabba73]

Any chance the soft option on the NRL club was to help with the AFL case?

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Will Watson lose the brownlow?

 

[Big_Luch]

Dons treated 'pretty badly'


Thread has peaked.

really is disgusting how these club officials speak about it all...you are the guys who put them in the mess! You shouldn't be saying a thing!

 

[Silvagnis]

WADA to sign off Cronulla deal

 

[Jabba73]

WADA to sign off Cronulla deal

Disappointed if true. Gives players an out clause, plead ignorance and effectively get off free (apart from any undisclosed/unknown side effects).

Seems some players aren't as responsible as others. Feeling sorrier for Saad by the day.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

1. I'm disgusted that they have been alowed backdated bans - it's a disgrace
2. However in saying that they are allowed that becuase of a drawn out investigation - now I'm not sure why the investigation was so drawn out but it must be noted that Cronulla never took ASADA to court over this, I don't know a lot about the Cronulla investigation but that is one key difference
3. Therefore hopefully (if justice prevails) Essendope won't have their bans back dated because unlike Cronulla where the investigation supposedly took too long - in Essendope's case it was them draggin the ivestigastion out


Therefore hopefully the scum will all get 2 year bans.