Dramoth
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There are actually people who comment in this thread who have actually done their research on the drugs used or are lawyers who are commenting on the points of law used. So there is actually a fair amount of fact posted about the process of whats been happening for the last 21 months.
Admittedly there is a lot more vitriolic posts directed towards Essendon* because of their rivalry with our club. However, some of the vitriol is well directed because Essendon are serial cheats... much worse than Carlton ever have been.
1. We got done for systematic salary cap infringements... so did Essendon* and for a longer period than we got done for.
2. We never got done for draft tampering... Essendon* did.
3. We never got done for tax evasion... Essendon* did.
4. While individual players from our past have admitted to playing while under the influence of certain illegal drugs, we have never engaged in a systematic, controlled (despite what Essendon* have tried to portray... the evidence in the text messages suggests that there were records kept as to who took what and when) illegal doping program involving virtually their entire list.
People trying to defend the players... while admirable in their efforts are somewhat deluded. They got caught up in the cult of personality being run by Hird and they signed up without thought to the program. IF they had any doubts about the program, they should have discussed it with their GP or reported it immediately. NONE of them did... they were all busy signing consent forms and getting their jabs. They were complicit in their actions in regard to the doping program... just like anyone who is getting under the table payments in excess of their reported salaries are complicit in the salary cap infringements of the club.
Essendon* thanks to the Evans family thinks that they are above the rule of law of the AFL. They were allowed to keep their premiership cup after it came out that they had actually infringed the salary cap in 1993. It should have been struck from the records that they won and an asterisk put next to the year 1993 in the AFL history books. I am fairly certain that if Carlton had won the premiership in 1999, we would have had it stripped off us.
Yes... we are biased against Essendon but only because they are one of our major rivals.
Admittedly there is a lot more vitriolic posts directed towards Essendon* because of their rivalry with our club. However, some of the vitriol is well directed because Essendon are serial cheats... much worse than Carlton ever have been.
1. We got done for systematic salary cap infringements... so did Essendon* and for a longer period than we got done for.
2. We never got done for draft tampering... Essendon* did.
3. We never got done for tax evasion... Essendon* did.
4. While individual players from our past have admitted to playing while under the influence of certain illegal drugs, we have never engaged in a systematic, controlled (despite what Essendon* have tried to portray... the evidence in the text messages suggests that there were records kept as to who took what and when) illegal doping program involving virtually their entire list.
People trying to defend the players... while admirable in their efforts are somewhat deluded. They got caught up in the cult of personality being run by Hird and they signed up without thought to the program. IF they had any doubts about the program, they should have discussed it with their GP or reported it immediately. NONE of them did... they were all busy signing consent forms and getting their jabs. They were complicit in their actions in regard to the doping program... just like anyone who is getting under the table payments in excess of their reported salaries are complicit in the salary cap infringements of the club.
Essendon* thanks to the Evans family thinks that they are above the rule of law of the AFL. They were allowed to keep their premiership cup after it came out that they had actually infringed the salary cap in 1993. It should have been struck from the records that they won and an asterisk put next to the year 1993 in the AFL history books. I am fairly certain that if Carlton had won the premiership in 1999, we would have had it stripped off us.
Yes... we are biased against Essendon but only because they are one of our major rivals.
