What do they do to the Sherrin to prepare it for match use?

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Put it out there
  1. mcuzzy

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    Every footy is rock solid and pointy when you first pump it up.

    The balls they use for pre-match and match seem lighter, less pointy and feel and are shaped like they have been kicked around for ages, yet they look brand new, not even a scratch

    What's with that?
     

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    I don't know mate but I am sure some smart arse will have a comment putting shit on your question.
    I remember many years ago when I played ,I nearly broke my thumb every second week the balls were that tight and inflated.
    Training was not a problem.
     
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    yeah same, they'd get new footys and pump them up and just have us play with those. shit to kick and shit to handball

    but i know someone who got a match ready sherrin with the rebel sport advertising on it and the ball feels lighter and it's way easier to kick and handball
     
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    Take it to dinner, then a movie, maybe a few drinks afterwards.
     
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    nah i tried that
     
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    Pump it up with helium.
     
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    They take them down to Port Adelaide and tell the blokes that the balls are their wives.
     
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    nobody here has any idea..do they?
     
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    Lulz.
     
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    lol...anybody know?
     
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    Has it occured to you that maybe after a bit of use the leather softens and stretches a bit and the feel of the ball changes slightly?
     

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    so they take the match balls out the day before the game and get bounce them on the ground for a few hours?
     
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    What do you mean exactly by 'the balls they use for pre-match and match'? Are you talking about AFL match balls or what?
     
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    haha! yes that match balls they use
     
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    Just a guess, but probably repeated inflation and deflation to stretch and soften the leather.

    Only thing I can think of that would soften the leather and round the ends without visibly damaging the ball.
     
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    Not meaning to be a smartass but then how do you know that they 'seem lighter, less pointy and feel and are shaped like they have been kicked around for ages' if you're not an AFL player?
     
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    I'll answer this sensibly -

    AFL balls are made to the highest standard.

    Those not made to highest standard end up in sports shops etc..


    Like peanuts - high standard sold as peanuts, low standard sold in peanut m&m's or homebrand
     
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    because someone gave one to me

    true

    but what i mean is the sherrins they use in the matches are the same as you would buy in the shop (deflated and rock hard and unshaped once you inflate it)
     
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    No, they aren't. The ones in shops, even the $170 ones sold as "official match balls" are not actually official match balls. Those balls are made the same, but fail to meet the high standard for an actual match ball and are sold to the public instead. I'm fairly certain you need to be handing over somewhere in the region of $300 per ball to get an actual one, and given that they are supplied directly to the AFL it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they receive extra treatment at the Sherrin factory before making it to the ground.
     
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    I'm amazed that nobody seems to know this one given all the massive controversy about the match balls earlier in the year. Don't you remember Aker talking about massive variations in the balls being used, and other players making similar complaints, like Fevola, and then the media weighing into the issue.

    What emerged was that there IS variation in the balls, but the AFL has an acceptable range of variation. This includes weight and size (width and length). They use the balls in the team warm ups before the game to try and stretch them in. They are not fundamentally different from the balls you can buy other than the fact that they probably check them more carefully for size/weight before match use. During the controversy, the AFL admitted that it had not been as careful about making sure all the balls that are used during the match are equally checked and pre-used before the game, but they probably have tightened up on it because of all the negative press and there hasn't been any further mention of it since the earlier press.

    They use "Kangaroo" brand Sherrins in the AFL, not the other Sherrins. All the Sherrins models have different materials, sizes and weights. Kangaroo is the official match ball, and supposedly the best quality because the material is better (used to be Australian leather, but not anymore) and they are hand made - cost more too.

    If you have a Kangaroo brand football, it will be close in weight to the AFL match balls, but might not be stretched in yet so it may feel wrong. Also, there is less careful sizing control with balls you buy in a shop, so you have to make an educated guess about it s shape and how much it will stretch. If you obsess about it, everything feels wrong though!
     
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    I don't mean they're the same quality of ball, I mean they're in the same shape and need to be kicked around and given a belting because it's pointy and the leather is tight


    I know they're not the official match balls, but if you buy or are lucky enough to receive a deflated match ball with advertising and you pump it up, it is the same as one from the shop would be. I only get the match balls (got a few that were used or going to be used for training too) because I get given one as a present once every 2 years. when they're given to me inflated they're rounder, easier to handball and not as hard but if I get a new deflated one and inflate it, then it'll be hard and pointy.

    the 'official match balls' are about $110 I think, but the actual official footy is $170-$200

    and just on the quality of the sherrin comment by Ando, balls shave been popping more frequently than normal the past few years
     
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    The did that on Mythbusters
     
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    I agree that there is something different - particularly for a brand new ball. They even sound different at the game when they are kicked. I have often wondered if they are pumped up to a different pressure, of if the leather is a little softer - either better quality or thinner.

    There is no doubt match balls used in the AFL are different.
     
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    Incorrect. All of the balls are made to certain specs, if they dont fit into those specs they dont even reach store level (unless the store specifically ask for blemished balls).
     
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    and for those wondering there correct KPA for a ball is 69KPA (12PSI)