Nothing just think it was a harder league then
Warriors are lucky there are a lack of decent centres league wide
How is any centre in history going to stop Curry?
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Nothing just think it was a harder league then
Warriors are lucky there are a lack of decent centres league wide
They aren't.How is any centre in history going to stop Curry?
They aren't.
But the flip side is that no one can punish them when they go small
Green out played gasol in the playoffs which was one part of the problem
The issue isn't that there are no great centres anymore (even though there might not be), isn't the issue that centres is not how you do it anymore.
Spurs weren't exactly entertaining at the time for the majority nor were the Pistons. They got results with defence first until Pop altered the way the Spurs played to deal with the different personnel. The 2005 finals won't really go down as ones to remember.Am i being paranoid if I equate that to being along the lines of the "Spurs are boring" (were) argument?
Or are you actually complaining about the epidemic of Iso/Hero-ball of the post-Jordan era that teams like the Spurs and Pistons countered so well?
I will agree though that the "run & gun" suns were great to watch, but they were much better defensively than people give them credit for. They were unlucky never to get over the line (but i think thats more up to who they came up against than any actual problems with their style) and D'antoni couldve been viewed differently if they did win a title.
The Lakers didn't save anything, it was the Kings, Mavs and briefly the Bucks who gave the league it's best aesthetic on-court product between 1995 & 2005.
The western conference had a ton of perennially strong teams during those years - Spurs, Blazers & Wolves in addition to the Kings and Mavs.
Got high hopes for towns and okafor. Boogie and brow are up there if they ever get team matesThe issue isn't that there are no great centres anymore (even though there might not be), isn't the issue that centres is not how you do it anymore.
The Lakers didn't save anything, it was the Kings, Mavs and briefly the Bucks who gave the league it's best aesthetic on-court product between 1995 & 2005.
The western conference had a ton of perennially strong teams during those years - Spurs, Blazers & Wolves in addition to the Kings and Mavs.
I was talking more about superstars that were getting it done. For the majority of the casuals, they were the team that were luring them to the league, without Shaq and Kobe there wasn't a whole lot else post Jordan that casuals were interested in till LeBron came along.
Yes they did but there was some real awful basketball being played. I know you bring up the West but the East was absolutely horrendous really, and then you've got all those players coming in wanting to be one man teams.
It was s**t reffing and a combination of Shaq being such a difficult player to officiate on both ends of the court. You're never going to convince me that there was a fix. It's almost like a myth that has only grown over time with Youtube compilations and Donaghy's musings.I want the league to come out and say they fixed game 6 of the WCF in 2002, they'll never admit to it but it'd give some closure on the ugliest chapter in NBA history.
It doesn't need to validated but it needs to be recognised, many a casual fan (new fans now) don't even think about it let alone know of it's existence
It's just "Kobe and Shaq" monstered the league for years bruh". Being told to get over it doesn't help either when it's all you've got and as close as you've come.
It was s**t reffing and a combination of Shaq being such a difficult player to officiate on both ends of the court.
You're never going to convince me that there was a fix. It's almost like a myth that has only grown over time with Youtube compilations and Donaghy's musings.
Shaq and Kobe were monstering the league and then self-imploded due to bitterness towards each other.
I don't get why you wouldn't have moved past it either. The Celtics copped some pretty shoddy officiating in game 7 of the 2010 finals but I've moved on.
The Kings I'm sure had chances to make plays throughout that series and didn't.
I know you'll come back at me with the predictable post involving the greatest tragedy in sport, but you're never going to convince me. I'll only ever accept that game/series was rigged if I see blatant evidence.
You could write a book SOS I have an idea for the front cover illustration I think you can guess what it would be.
If you want to narrow it down to blatant evidence then how can you sit there and watch the footage and tell me that Divacs, Webber and especially Scot Pollard were officiated fairly? Or how does Kobe get the call and free throws when he leaves Bibby bloodied and on the floor as play resumes? Webber's clear as daylight block on Kobe in the 4th of game 6 that gets called and leads to the commentators remarking that "something isn't right"?It was s**t reffing and a combination of Shaq being such a difficult player to officiate on both ends of the court. You're never going to convince me that there was a fix. It's almost like a myth that has only grown over time with Youtube compilations and Donaghy's musings.
Shaq and Kobe were monstering the league and then self-imploded due to bitterness towards each other.
I don't get why you wouldn't have moved past it either. The Celtics copped some pretty shoddy officiating in game 7 of the 2010 finals but I've moved on.
The Kings I'm sure had chances to make plays throughout that series and didn't.
I know you'll come back at me with the predictable post involving the greatest tragedy in sport, but you're never going to convince me. I'll only ever accept that game/series was rigged if I see blatant evidence.
If you want to narrow it down to blatant evidence then how can you sit there and watch the footage and tell me that Divacs, Webber and especially Scot Pollard were officiated fairly? Or how does Kobe get the call and free throws when he leaves Bibby bloodied and on the floor as play resumes? Webber's clear as daylight block on Kobe in the 4th of game 6 that gets called and leads to the commentators remarking that "something isn't right"?
It wasn't a one off shocker, it was several consecutively that constantly put them out of the game all for going arms straight up on Shaq who when he had the ball was barely backing them down to the hoop; he was opting for jump hooks.
And I haven't moved on because that's as close and as deserving as a team can get and it got ripped away for disgusting reasons, Webber's blown knee a year later was as close as Sacramento has ever come to that and it's been a struggle to stay competitive let alone relevant thanks to equally shitty management under the Malloofs.
I'm going to have to go back and watch this game now. As a Dubs fan, I loved Chris Webber and when he came into the league I though he was going to be the one to build a championship team around. I was shattered with the way it ended, and always kept a close eye on him after that. I really hoped the Kings would win the title, 1- because you played great basketball & 2- it would have given Webber redemption after the NCAA timeout debacle. Unfortunately it wasn't to be, I still have a slight soft spot for the Kings despite their ongoing basket case nature now.
Yep was a harder league when the league was massively watered down by expansion. Warriors are an all time team whether they play small or big.Nothing just think it was a harder league then
Warriors are lucky there are a lack of decent centres league wide
He's good enough as a defensive specialist. He's just not a competent PG at all. Needs to channel his inner Eric Snow.Michael Carter Williams isn't good enough for the NBL let alone the NBA
Wow you really went out on a limb thereSteph will win a back to back MVP
Wow you really went out on a limb there
If Curry loses his jumper, he becomes a mediocre PG.
He becomes Rondo?Because his handles, passing and finishing around the rim are so mediocre