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Dangerfield's explosive pace

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It's been so awesome watching Dangerfield play every game this season after being blueballed for the majority of last season. A rising star nomination in round 3, six shots on goal on the weekend (pity all but one missed), our leading contested possession player, a desperate hunter of the ball, a spitting body image of a young Roo, who creates stoppages and busts the ball from packs. And then there's the explosive pace.

Except, considering this was the primary thing we were excited about when Dangerfield was first selected, it's been somewhat absent in the first nine rounds so far this season. Don't get me wrong - Danger has pace and has shown it. His work on the lead is fantastic - once he gets going, nobody can keep tight with him if the kick is good enough. But he need to get going.

In the TAC Cup we saw Dangerfield with explosive pace. He'd grab the ball, sidestep a player, and then just fire up the afterburners and go for a dash. In the AFL, we have very rarely seen this and when we have, it's been mostly after a sizable run where he's worked up to pace, not like the explosive pace we were expecting to see.

Why do you think that is? I can think of a few theories, but I'm not sure.

1) Dangerfield is enormous. I mean, he always had great core stability and body strength but he's packed on muscle like nobody's business this past year and perhaps he simply weighs more than his legs are used to. Particularly as the bulk of his recent muscle growth appears to be in the upper body and not the legs.
2) Could it be a confidence thing? We often see Danger attempt to go for a run (albeit not at totally full pace, not yet) but either get caught from behind, or run smack into the next player in a zone/flood. Could it be a lack of confidence that he doesn't want to fire up the afterburners for lack of getting caught and looking foolish? Dangerfield has a good footy brain and perhaps he just feels that it's not the smart thing to do. Mind you, if this is the case I'm disappointed we haven't seen him chase more people down from behind.
3) Or could it be coaching instruction? I don't think so but we always hear people (here and elsewhere) sarcastically talking about how Craig turns his players into Crowbots, and squeezes the flair out of them. Surely he couldn't be being instructed not to use his pace unless he has a paddock in front of him - could he?
4) Lastly (and probably the most likely) is that his fitness is not quite where he wants it to be, and he is concerned about his ability to run out games. Perhaps he'd rather go at 80% the whole match than go at full pace for half the game and then blow up. I suppose this would be particularly true in the more physical environment of the AFL.

I'd love to think that within a few years Dangerfield's body will finish filling out, he'll have his confidence sky high, and he'll be running around in the red yellow and blue bashing through packs, firing up the nitros and streaming through the centre of the ground. Even if he never ends up delivering on that tantilizing promise of explosive pace, he still has plenty of "normal" pace to burn - enough that he will never be considered an average paced player. His other traits alone would also see him succeed as an AFL player. But add the explosive pace to that as well - the very thing we most expected from Dangerfield this year - and we'll have an elite midfielder.
 
stabby, you just need some material don't you ;).

i'd personally put it down to a few things.

1) most of his possessions are when he is on the bottom of the pack and getting up with 18 opposition players trying to tackle him.
2) he doesn't quite have that confidence. he has shown it once or twice and been caught, but i think his role inside the game plan has restricted his natural pace to a degree.
3) playing a lot of time up forward.
4) a lot bigger than he was 12-18 months ago.

to be honest i dont think having absolute raw pace is really a necessary ingredient in dangerfields development. it is very much eye candy (which is obviously why we would love for him to show it), but i don't think if dangerfield showed his true pace he would be any better than he is now.

and for the record, he is still VERY quick.
 
I agree that he is still very quick, particularly on the lead, and he would do alright without the explosive pace, but I think it would add to his game. Mind you, it's not so important if he's up forward as if he's playing through the midfield. You're not often going to get to run very far in the forward-line without encountering a pack of players.

As for needing material, don't know what you're talking about :p
 
I think its no more than confidence and acclimatisation.

He has turned it on, but often you see him looking behind him checking he's free. he puts the jets on, and off he goes. but only once free, not to get free.

its just awareness, and it will come. against carlton he tried to break tackles, and hasn't got the mix right yet.

he'll get there. besides he reminded me a little of GAblett Sr in that first quarter.

he has power and pace.
 

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gablett sr - i like that! one thing that goes hand in hand with pace is leap - tex has some real competition there - is there room for both? tex lacks the presents of danger
 
he ran pretty quick through the midfield against the Lions. So quick that there was no-one to kick to in the end.

McKay seems to be our run/carry player at the moment.

Dangers first few steps are quick, hence he gets ahead of his defender. Most of the leads I saw he started from behind and worked his way in front with pace and strength.
 
Fitness.

In the TAC Cup you have the priviledge of standing around a lot of the time.

Now he's running to his position in the zone, working harderjust to get the ball, that there's not a whole lot left in the tank.

We see the pace in spurts, but not a prolonged dash.

He's playing a clearance role for us as well, he wont be on the recieving end of the handball like Vince and MacKay are.

Another preseason will show a lot of difference.
 
He does seem very quick in the first few steps, as people have said. On one occasion in the Carlton match, Judd had the ball in the middle and was about to run away from the pack when Danger - from a standing start - just mowed him down and got the free.

A few times I've been a bit surprised when I thought he would take off after someone to put a bit of pressure on them, and he hasn't, but that could be just playing a role and playing his position in the structure. Also I think we are seeing the difference in intensity and pressure between TAC and AFL, in AFL there is simply less room to move and go for a run.

He perhaps doesn't have the ridiculous pace of some of Essendons players, but they are a lot lighter and there is no doubt he has pace to burn, which combined with his other attributes is very exciting.
 
Sustained pace is the only shortfall, the ability to sprint 100 meters full tilt, and do it again.

We'll see a 40 meter burst that gets us all excited, but once he gets the ability to repeat sprint. watch out.
 
Could it be that Dangerfield is still getting aclimatised to the pace of AFL footy! With this being his first year that he has been picked continually each week, maybe he may take at least half of the season to adapt to the pace required to play AFL!
 

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He is bloody quick on the lead, which combined with the successful Porplyzia hands cloning operation he had over the summer, makes him almost unstoppable on the lead.

Due to his size however, he doesn't have the agility of Petrenko, so he is not as good as Pup at chasing opponents or getting away from them quickly.

Also, he could learn a few tricks from the veterans like the Edwards/Torney "don't argue!" as well as McLeod's patented arching his back to avoid a tackle when being chased.
 
Could it be that Dangerfield is still getting aclimatised to the pace of AFL footy! With this being his first year that he has been picked continually each week, maybe he may take at least half of the season to adapt to the pace required to play AFL!

Spot on. At present he's getting caught too often trying to break tackles. Needs to use his hands a bit quicker in tight spots--if you'll excuse that expression. He looks as though he will be a superstar when he does get the pace of the game and settle enough to make those shots at goal count.
I predict within a few weeks he'll complete his apprecticeship and we will be in for a treat for the remainder of the season. :thumbsu:
 
I think he is still finding his feet at AFL level. He is still learning to read the play and know when he can go and take them on and when he should give. If he isnt sure Id rather he give the first option rather than continuously get caught trying to take them on. I actually think he has shown great maturity not getting carried away with the hype around his pace. Either he has an amazing head on his shoulders or it once again shows why Neil Crag is such a good coach.
 
I think he is still finding his feet at AFL level. He is still learning to read the play and know when he can go and take them on and when he should give. If he isnt sure Id rather he give the first option rather than continuously get caught trying to take them on. I actually think he has shown great maturity not getting carried away with the hype around his pace. Either he has an amazing head on his shoulders or it once again shows why Neil Crag is such a good coach.

Interesting point

Since our serious "Evolution" has begun we have seen a few young guys come in and take up a role within the team and look like they have played 50 games already.

McKay
Otten
Danger
Tippett.

Is it good recruiting or good coaching?
 

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4) Lastly (and probably the most likely) is that his fitness is not quite where he wants it to be, and he is concerned about his ability to run out games. Perhaps he'd rather go at 80% the whole match than go at full pace for half the game and then blow up. I suppose this would be particularly true in the more physical environment of the AFL.

Interesting post cmndstab. Always thinking ;).

It's probably a combination of all things you mentioned (although i really hope Craigy has not instructed him to lose his x factor and play crowbot style). I was keeping an eye on him (as i do most games) in the last quarter of the game against the Cats after chasing an oppostion player to affect a spoil, he had a bit of jelly legs. Then the Cats player played on, and Danger tried to chase, although it looked like he was running in quicksand. His arms were pumping but his legs weren't. It was a bit comical, but maybe as you said in your post, he is having trouble running games out.
 
Its an interesting one, I remember thinking the same of Mackay last season. We all heard how quick Mackay was but we never really saw it. We saw his great skills and his great composure and decision making, but he rarely used his pace to run a player down or to break and carry the ball.

Fast forward one year and Mackay is showing his pace, run and carry every week. He is in the top 3 (or something like that) in the AFL for bounces.

I think Danger will demonstrate the same thing as his awareness gets better - he'll be able to feel when he has a metre clear on his opponent and he'll just burst away.

I also agree his fitness has, understandably, not fully developed yet. He works so hard, chasing, diving on the ball, laying tackles, getting clearances with 3 guys hanging off him he just runs out of legs.

Very exciting though.
 
Mackay has never been quick.

Dangerfield is still quick, but a highlight reel against u18s doesn't exactly give a balanced picture. But as others have said, that pace useless unless you have the aerobic capacity to use it. In time.
 

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