FTA-TV LOST- The Finale

[likka]

If you don't like the alternate timeline, what do you think about the story if you forget about that arc and just think of the original timeline and it's finale?

Basically Lost was a very simple story told in a very convoluted and obfuscated manner. Swiss cheese story telling. This was done deliberately and skilfully, bit like a weird multi part viral internet ad campaign... except the final product was never revealed.

Without knowing anything about the island, except that it is real and somehow manages the balance of good and bad in the world, the rest of the story lacks any real substance.

Didn't need a scientific dissertation on the island, but some sort of vaguely plausible explanation would have sufficed.

Of course the writers made up the "magical" island properties for all sorts of deus ex machina throughout the 6 seasons probably knowing full well it wouldn't have to make sense because what the island was (even in its most basic form) was never going to be revealed.

 

[the ranger]

And what more do you want to know about what the island is?

It is a special island. That has special properties and special beings. And can move.

There can be no scientific or pseudo-scientific explanation for that.

But there can be a reason for it.

Anyway, there's some pretty wild stuff in science. They could have fit it somewhere in the ten dimensions that made it somewhat plausible.

 

[likka]

hahahaha

pretty fired up about this likka

Not at all, just disappointed... one consolation though is it wasn't as bad as the BSG finale.

That had me fired up.

 

[likka]

Could I watch the last episode after not watching the show since Season 1?

Nothing stopping you... make about as much sense as Chinese opera though.

 

[Benno_900]

Seriously? That's the main question, IMO. If they'd crash landed on a regular island, none of it would have happened. This island was special. Why? What did it represent?

If it was a normal island, it'd be pretty boring.

Seriously though, you're going to be disappointed with any answer they give which is why they left it unanswered.

 

[likka]

The writers had no intention of revealing what the island was because then they could use it to make shit up and not be held accountable for its plausibility. It and its magical properties were a get out of jail free card they used extensively and often.

Story not interesting enough... lets invent another magical characteristic of the island and through that into the mix.

 

[SJ]

The writers had no intention of revealing what the island was because then they could use it to make shit up and not be held accountable for its plausibility. It and its magical properties were a get out of jail free card they used extensively and often.

Story not interesting enough... lets invent another magical characteristic of the island and through that into the mix.

Can you give me one example of the sort of desired explanation of the island you refer to?

 

[Gasometer]

The show was about the characters on that Island.

The finale resolved those characters.

All the rest made me care about those characters whether you believed the mumbo jumbo as fact or fiction, mythology or reality.

Lost in Space was about the Robinsons.
Land of the Lost was the same mold (the orig Tv version)

...and so was LOST.

gaso

 

[the ranger]

I thought the plug and the bottle analogy that Jacob said this season said it all about the Island?

That's probably the best explanation offered but it still has holes in it. If the island is the cork and the wine is evil, what are Jacob and smokeman? Is the smokeman the personification of evil? If so, why is he just trying to get off the island rather than destroy it (up until near the very end). If he got off the island, would he still have his powers? Why couldn't he leave the island even before he became the smoke monster? Who was their "mother" and why did she murder their real mother and go to such extreme lengths to stop smokeman from leaving, even before he'd been transformed? Murdering their real mother would suggest that she is evil, but yet she annoints Jacob as the guy who is supposed to keep evil locked safely away. Holes everywhere.

 

[SJ]

I am not a Star Wars fan, but I am sure most people will agree with me that 'the force' was accepted in the original trilogy. "But what was it?" It was the force.

It then was ruined in the prequels when explained by midichloriad count in the blood.

What was "the island"? It was "the island".

 

[ObaMartins]

C'mon guys there's a man that can turn into a smoke monster, and you want answers about the island??

 

[the ranger]

I am not a Star Wars fan, but I am sure most people will agree with me that 'the force' was accepted in the original trilogy. "But what was it?" It was the force.

It then was ruined in the prequels when explained by midichloriad count in the blood.

What was "the island"? It was "the island".

The midichloriad thing was a crap explanation. It didn't need to be explained in such detail because the setting was long long ago in a galaxy far far away. It was pure fantasy. Tolkien didn't need to explain how magic worked either.

Lost was more like a superhero story, but all of those make some effort to explain how these characters got their powers. They might not be scientifically plausible but they make an effort and you either suspend disbelief and enjoy it, or you don't watch. Lost continually promised to reveal what was going on and then failed to do so. After six years.

 

[Gasometer]

Lost continually promised to reveal what was going on and then failed to do so. After six years.

This conversation is going around in circles.

Get the boxed set in August and rewatch from the start including the extras...you will be surprised.

gaso

 

[the ranger]

This conversation is going around in circles.

Get the boxed set in August and rewatch from the start including the extras...you will be surprised.

gaso

I will probably rewatch it all some day (**** buying a boxset though lol...torrents baby). I have been a fan since the beginning, just not an obsessed fan who seeks out answers on the interwebs. But yeah, most likely will watch it all again someday and take notes as I go lol.

 

[Lets Beyblade]

Sorry if this has been linked to before but this is a great explanation for anyone interested.

http://forum.lostpedia.com/someone-bad-robots-take-finale-t59261.html

 

[alfy!]

Yeah, it was linked like two pages ago, but it is a great explanation.

 

[the ranger]

Yeah, it was linked like two pages ago, but it is a great explanation.

It is good. It still leaves lots of holes though.

Basically, I think (though I may be wrong) that the ending appeals more to religious types who are willing to take things on faith. Being an American show, they knew that they didn't need to explain everything fully..just make the ending satisfactory for the type of people who can ignore facts and reason and logic and prescribe a spiritual meaning and you'll win people over. The controversy comes because a lot of Lost fans are more scientific in their thinking and can't be satisfied that way.

 

[Munga]

Happy with the ending, even though I don't understand all of it.

So Jack has a son with Juliette, and then she remembers Sawyers and ends up with him...too late to think about this stuff

 

[Vendrell]

Been thinking about the episode for the last 24 hours and there's one thing I can't get my head around:

How come the island is underwater in the flashsideways / purgatory?

It feels like another red herring because it was in the opening scene of the season then at the end of the finale we're all so overwhelmed by everything that just happened that we've conveniently forgotten about it. Can someone explain it please?

 

[grimlock]

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[Noppo]

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Found this quite humorous .

 

[Atavistic]

The finale was uber ******ed on a par with the finale of Battlestar Galactica. There were some nice moments between characters but none of the bells and whistles that I'd expect in a climax and no awesome twists. It's like the writers thought what would be the most boring ending possible and then put pen to paper.

Jack's death was so stupid it was unbelievable. I was hoping he'd turn into a smoke monster, albeit a good sort of smoke monster. And why the **** would he put the plug in when the one guy immune to electromagnetism is laying right next to him?

A bunch of posters were right in some of their predictions - about Juliet asking Sawyer to have coffee & all the characters remembering each other.

 

[Atavistic]

The Lost journey was like meeting Jessica Alba, taking her home, having quality foreplay, amazing sex, and then no orgasm. Thats how the finale felt for me anyway.

Correct! And I want my orgasm, dammit!

 

[Ron]

The finale was uber ******ed on a par with the finale of Battlestar Galactica. There were some nice moments between characters but none of the bells and whistles that I'd expect in a climax and no awesome twists. It's like the writers thought what would be the most boring ending possible and then put pen to paper.

Jack's death was so stupid it was unbelievable. I was hoping he'd turn into a smoke monster, albeit a good sort of smoke monster. And why the **** would he put the plug in when the one guy immune to electromagnetism is laying right next to him?

A bunch of posters were right in some of their predictions - about Juliet asking Sawyer to have coffee & all the characters remembering each other.

You thought the finale was shit, yet you thought having Jack become a friendly smoke monster would have been a good finish

 

[Atavistic]

You thought the finale was shit, yet you thought having Jack become a friendly smoke monster would have been a good finish

Better than him sitting in the plug hole laughing like a stoner before dying alone in the jungle. At least he and Hurley could have still hung out together on the island.