Preview Round 9 vs Sydney Preview & Discussion

[Falchoon]

Lever has only played VFL reserves so far.
Maybe thats why there is more interest in Archer.
Archer rucked in VFL seniors last year though it wasn't a good role for him.

I imagine there will be some thinking along the following lines this week at selection

Kosi in ruck = loss, Wilkes at FF = loss

Archer in ruck = loss, Kosi at FF = win

Kosi LT health at FF > Kosi LT health in the ruck


Archer is probably a show

 

[spudmaster]

Scotty suggests here that Kosi + Blake will have to share the duties, rather than someone coming in from vfl level to help out.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...run-out-of-rucks/story-e6frf9jf-1226364975452

Given the club started the season light on for genuine ruck options, Watters will on Saturday be forced to use 189cm defender Jason Blake and 197cm forward Justin Koschitzke at centre bounces against Sydney.

"From a duty of care point of view I'll be forced to ruck a 189cm ruckman or a key position player - and they're going up against monsters."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...run-out-of-rucks/story-e6frf9jf-1226364975452

Has Blake done much in the way of pinch hitting at the very least?

Probably a good thing 200kg+ Mumford isn't playing for the Swans or that could've been frightening!

 

[CrashTestDummy]

I imagine there will be some thinking along the following lines this week at selection

Kosi in ruck = loss, Wilkes at FF = loss

Archer in ruck = loss, Kosi at FF = win

Kosi LT health at FF > Kosi LT health in the ruck


Archer is probably a show

Why don't the Saints focus on nullifying O'Keefe, Kennedy & Jack and in that order? Do that and we might have a fighting chance of beating them. Nudge nudge wink wink

 

[Strahany]

Scotty suggests here that Kosi + Blake will have to share the duties, rather than someone coming in from vfl level to help out.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...run-out-of-rucks/story-e6frf9jf-1226364975452





http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...run-out-of-rucks/story-e6frf9jf-1226364975452

Has Blake done much in the way of pinch hitting at the very least?

Probably a good thing 200kg+ Mumford isn't playing for the Swans or that could've been frightening!

I'm pretty sure Blake took most of the ruck duty when we played your mob a few weeks ago. On paper he seems like a really poor choice, but you never realise how big his leap is. We're not talking Stanley or Naitanui big, but he has a pretty above average jump, which allows him to make a decent contest.

Personally I'd prefer that Blake takes most of the duties, and Gwilt comes in this week. That way his absence is covered in defence, and our forwardline structure is not upset. Of course, this restricts Gwilt's ability to rebound unless Gilbert becomes a stay-at-home defender. But that's only a minor issue, and should only trouble us this one time, with Fisher due to comeback next week.

 

[CrashTestDummy]

I'm pretty sure Blake took most of the ruck duty when we played your mob a few weeks ago. On paper he seems like a really poor choice, but you never realise how big his leap is. We're not talking Stanley or Naitanui big, but he has a pretty above average jump, which allows him to make a decent contest.

Personally I'd prefer that Blake takes most of the duties, and Gwilt comes in this week. That way his absence is covered in defence, and our forwardline structure is not upset. Of course, this restricts Gwilt's ability to rebound unless Gilbert becomes a stay-at-home defender. But that's only a minor issue, and should only trouble us this one time, with Fisher due to comeback next week.

As long as the Saints win the hard/loose ball gets this week and the clearances, I'll be happy regardless of the result. Because that's what the opponent will be focusing on! Take it away from them and then let's imagine the result!

Of course this should also involve accounting for hard-bodied old fellas like O'Keefe. Surely we've got the legs for him and then some.

Expect a hard bodied game.

We can do it!

Just do it Saints. Do it.

 

[L_W_P]

Has Blake done much in the way of pinch hitting at the very least?

Round 16 2008 -

11 kicks
12 handballs
5 marks
2 tackles
3 goals
13 hitouts
5 frees for and 2 against

T'was a BOG performance that should've seen him get Brownlow votes which instead went to Roo (3), Lenny (2) and Joey (1).

 

[CrashTestDummy]

Round 16 2008 -

11 kicks
12 handballs
5 marks
2 tackles
3 goals
13 hitouts
5 free's for and 2 against

T'was a BOG performance that should've seen him get Brownlow votes which instead went to Roo (3), Lenny (2) and Joey (1).

Unsung yet....plenty of smarts though.

 

[spudmaster]

I'm pretty sure Blake took most of the ruck duty when we played your mob a few weeks ago. On paper he seems like a really poor choice, but you never realise how big his leap is. We're not talking Stanley or Naitanui big, but he has a pretty above average jump, which allows him to make a decent contest.

Personally I'd prefer that Blake takes most of the duties, and Gwilt comes in this week. That way his absence is covered in defence, and our forwardline structure is not upset. Of course, this restricts Gwilt's ability to rebound unless Gilbert becomes a stay-at-home defender. But that's only a minor issue, and should only trouble us this one time, with Fisher due to comeback next week.

Oh whoops, duh! Thanks for that mate, that one completely slipped my mind. No arguments about his leap either, helps him to offset what he lacks in height for that position.

All the best against the swannies on Saturday

 

[Falchoon]

Why don't the Saints focus on nullifying O'Keefe, Kennedy & Jack and in that order? Do that and we might have a fighting chance of beating them. Nudge nudge wink wink

their leading goal kickers for the year are interesting

 

[Falchoon]

Has Blake done much in the way of pinch hitting at the very least?

He can definitely pinch hit.

By definition pinch hitting doesn't last 6 weeks though.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Blake always seems taller than he is. Its like his arms and legs are longer than normal or something.
He has all the smarts of a great ruckman, he's just 10cm too short.
I just looked at 10cm on a ruler... it doesn't seem like that much.

 

[Falchoon]

Blake always seems taller than he is. Its like his arms and legs are longer than normal or something.
He has all the smarts of a great ruckman, he's just 10cm too short.
I just looked at 10cm on a ruler... it doesn't seem like that much.

10cm in wing span too, so his reach becomes >15cm too short, then there's the 15kg+ at boundary throw ins.

 

[SamFisher25]

swans dont have much in the way of rucks pyke was smashed by jamar last week and seaby by maric the week prior

 

[hayes]

Yeah I'd rather Kosi and Blake share the ruck duties than have someone in who is barely VFL standard. Bring in Siposs if we need another marking target or Ledger if we want another mid.

 

[Squizz]

swans dont have much in the way of rucks pyke was smashed by jamar last week and seaby by maric the week prior

Cool - when we throw our All-Australian ruckman (or our ruckman who is averaging 29 hitouts, 16 possessions and 3 tackles in 2012) then they'll be toast!!!

 

[SamFisher25]

Cool - when we throw our All-Australian ruckman (or our ruckman who is averaging 29 hitouts, 16 possessions and 3 tackles in 2012) then they'll be toast!!!

had a hitout against richmond last year i reckon he'd torch maric around the ground next week

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yeah I'd rather Kosi and Blake share the ruck duties than have someone in who is barely VFL standard. Bring in Siposs if we need another marking target or Ledger if we want another mid.

Don't we have Gwilt set to come in?

 

[Sketi]

swans dont have much in the way of rucks pyke was smashed by jamar last week and seaby by maric the week prior

Considering Jamar is leading the competition in hit outs I thought Pyke did pretty well in his first game back...

You guys seem pretty confident for coming off 2 six day breaks and a trip from Perth, I'm expecting a tight one that could go either way as both teams have plenty to play for

 

[stkildathunda]

IN: James Gwilt, Arryn Siposs
OUT: Rhys Stanley, Beau Wilkes

INT: Ray, Siposs, Milera, Saad
EMG: Raph Clarke, Adam Schneider & Beau Wilkes


Doesnt that bench & emgerncy list just smell of a late change or two!!!

 

[KingJim]

ST KILDA V SYDNEY SWANS
ES - Sat May 26, 4:40pm
Tickets | TV & Radio
St Kilda
B: Jason Gram, Sam Gilbert, Jason Blake
HB: Sean Dempster, James Gwilt, Jarryn Geary
C: Jamie Cripps, Lenny Hayes, Brendon Goddard
HF: Jack Steven, Nick Riewoldt, David Armitage
F: Stephen Milne, Tom Simpkin, Leigh Montagna
Foll: Justin Koschitzke, Nick Dal Santo, Clinton Jones
I/C: Farren Ray, Arryn Siposs, Ahmed Saad, Terry Milera
Emg: Raphael Clarke, Adam Schneider, Beau Wilkes
In: James Gwilt, Arryn Siposs
Out: Rhys Stanley (Hamstring), Beau Wilkes
Milestones: Lenny Hayes - 250 games, Farren Ray - 150 games
Sydney Swans
B: Nicholas Smith, Ted Richards, Rhyce Shaw
HB: Nick Malceski, Heath Grundy, Martin Mattner
C: Lewis Jetta, Kieren Jack, Jarrad McVeigh
HF: Ryan O'Keefe, Tommy Walsh, Daniel Hannebery
F: Ben McGlynn, Sam Reid, Lewis Roberts-Thomson
Foll: Mike Pyke, Josh P. Kennedy, Jude Bolton
I/C: Craig Bird, Trent Dennis-Lane, Luke Parker, Alex Johnson
Emg: Jesse White, Andrejs Everitt, Tony Armstrong
Milestones: Martin Mattner - 200 games

 

[hayes]

Don't we have Gwilt set to come in?

Completely slipped my mind. Gwilt comes in to take Wilkes spot in the backline who moves forward.

Can we never ever play Wilkes back ever again? That was ugly.

I can see Gilbert spending parts of the game forward to be another marking option.

EDIT: Wilkes out surprised me, but there's every chance we haven't seen the final team yet. I'd be happy if the team stayed the way it is.

 

[stkildathunda]

Tom Simpkin named at FULL FORWARD

WTF

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

SIPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Oh and love Gwilty.

 

[maanco]

Tom Simpkin named at FULL FORWARD

WTF

well that's unexpected!

I'm pretty happy with the ins and outs with sippa and gwilt coming in

 

[MCG-Unit]

Cripps holds his spot - and still no Ledger, even as emergency.

Strong side though.