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Essendon Black Ops Drug use sparks copycat rush

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Yes but even a plastic chain and a steel chain have links. Some however are stronger than others.

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I've said about 498,640,578,467,586,456,754,684,678,945,678,356,785,468,456,784,657,845,678,457,683,568,456,754,684,576,845,684,568,354,673,568,457,686,547,894,567 times they stuffed up on this board. But I was answering a question fo links between Dank and Robinson at another club.
 
I've said about 498,640,578,467,586,456,754,684,678,945,678,356,785,468,456,784,657,845,678,457,683,568,456,754,684,576,845,684,568,354,673,568,457,686,547,894,567 times they stuffed up on this board. But I was answering a question fo links between Dank and Robinson at another club.
Don't make me go all Jade on you and ask for proof (even though it's quite clear what you meant) of all of those 498,640,578,467,586,456,754,684,678,945,678,356,785,468,456,784,657,845,678,457,683,568,456,754,684,576,845,684,568,354,673,568,457,686,547,894,567 times. :)
 
I would rather be informed by experts and people who can back up their statements with facts and identifiable sources as per the Age story... Otherwise you just talking in circles. Blackcat, got any evidence for all these reporters being on the juice... Its a big call
these are just the fat loss and vanity drugs. what Ryan Maloney was on for his light n easy commercial.
 
In SMH today. Trend well established before news of Essendon's performance enhancing drug program.

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http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/steroid-use-soars-among-young-men-20140109-30kks.html
 
I would rather be informed by experts and people who can back up their statements with facts and identifiable sources as per the Age story... Otherwise you just talking in circles. Blackcat, got any evidence for all these reporters being on the juice... Its a big call
its not the roids to emphasise. just weightloss and vanity supplements they call them. but gives you a little extra endogenous hgh and testo by stimulating the pituitary gland. so in a roundabout way, not endogenous more exogenous.

its like the newreaders for the commercial channels, most of the women have had bit and pieces done at their cosmetic surgeon, botox is a compulsory, lots of collagen, and some face lifts and nose jobs. if the women do it, men are not free from that superficial gene neither. and it is more than superficiality, in some cases, for women on the commercial channels, it is this or boned.

and yes, before someone reaises conspiracies again, i do question myself about confirmation bias, and new digital video cameras, digital tv resolution, and plasma screens to doubt if these are the real causes in the changes in images.
 

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This is just steroids though. As far as I know, Essendon didn't take steroids.

Yeah but no one seems to know what they took, neither the players that were injected nor the people injecting them so maybe the peptides are just a Front for the good stuff!
Hard for anyone to argue that when no one will come forward to confirm any substance that was used or not.
From people I know that have or still use peptides, they suggest the results/improvements that some Essendon players experienced weren't from peptides alone, take it as you wish.
 
This is just steroids though. As far as I know, Essendon didn't take steroids.
these new peptides that make your body release your own hgh and testo, are better than roids. couple that with some IGF-2 and then you get women dunking regularly in the WNBA.

Find the research i linked to before, on the effects of hgh, when used in conjunction with testo. The effects inandof itself, are pretty ambiguous. But when you use it as a chaser on a testo stack, you get results like men running 9.6 100 metres. and it would be good for recovery and monday mornings at st kilda beach too.
 

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Yeah but no one seems to know what they took, neither the players that were injected nor the people injecting them so maybe the peptides are just a Front for the good stuff!
Hard for anyone to argue that when no one will come forward to confirm any substance that was used or not.
From people I know that have or still use peptides, they suggest the results/improvements that some Essendon players experienced weren't from peptides alone, take it as you wish.
or depends which of the peptides. those amino acids as they called them, because they fit the definition, that stimulate your pituitary gland to release its own hgh and testo, they are some good shit. really good shit. with some igf-2 and insulin and epo for recovery, then you have the perfect program. the 'slin and epo, are only for recovery. they dont need the epo for endurance running on saturday, the affal athlete archetype, will never exhaust the O2 potential in his blood.
 
they dont need the epo for endurance running on saturday, the affal athlete archetype, will never exhaust the O2 potential in his blood.

RussellEbertHandball and i have got into this. they dont need the epo for more 02 in their blood, they never use their potential. they are no mottram. even a crawford and hawthorn's clarke the brother of georgie clarke and now runner at either richmond or geelong. forget which he is the runner for. might be geelong, he may even coach their ressies. no, that is kights. might be richmond, and he coaches coburg (might/may).

anyhow, an affal athlete, no mottram, they dont need the extra O2 for their fartlek/interval sprints in a game. better to have a diet of testo/hgh and roids, for that 40 yard repeat, 40 year start, 40 yard stop go running. As Neil Craig had them at Adelaide on, the Simon Goodwin run diet. And Neil Craig an alumnus of the AIS in del Monte Adelaide under Charlie Walsh for the track cycling. He knew the KPIs and all that science jazz.

So, as REH and I spoke about when Aker had a go at Braun from WCE for being on epo, well, Aker did not unnerstan it.

Even tho he shared the same club doctor who had come thru the WCE program.
 
what a surprise. **** The Age are scraping the bottom of the barrel now


You reckon it's the Age.. but they were just reporting what bona fida experts were telling them.. i.e.: the EFC supplements program was fantastic free kick advertising program for PED's.
Don't you think what is happening in sport and how people are abusing their natural bodies matters? There will be consequences.

Have you read Sam Lane's latest piece about Michael Drapac… a really great positive story about a guy who cares what's happening in sport., no comparison with Hird who only cares about what he sees in the mirror
 
I read the Drapac article.

Dope is in cycling's dna.

And the only purpose of high level sport, is performance. no matter the cost, no matter the ethics.

there is a latent demand for dope that makes your muscles grow in the gym. most go to the gym, not to make their heart healthier, but to make the body look better and get a cheap root on the weekend, tho not an affair of the heart.

like bill clinton told monica, its the dope stupid
 
The AFL owned, funded and operated Gold Coast.

:p

Actually thats not entirely true. The AFL does not operate the club. Its ownership structure remains unknown, but its likely its similar to the swans, where the AFL appoints some of all of the board, and has a single vote that equate to 51% or more of the membership. Funded though, yes. Technically though, all clubs are at least partially funded by the league.
 
You reckon it's the Age.. but they were just reporting what bona fida experts were telling them.. i.e.: the EFC supplements program was fantastic free kick advertising program for PED's.
Don't you think what is happening in sport and how people are abusing their natural bodies matters? There will be consequences.

Have you read Sam Lane's latest piece about Michael Drapac… a really great positive story about a guy who cares what's happening in sport., no comparison with Hird who only cares about what he sees in the mirror
oh I see you missed the graph that says use was higher before the Essendon saga
 

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