Delist

[Harris 10]

I agree with all above and also believe Daw and Drew (unless we move Drew to defence) can not work in the same team, I would love to see Daw parked in the goal square and see the damage he could do, he just gets totally lost playing as a "2014 AFL Forward" and yet he maybe the perfect forward to force other clubs to have to leave their full back in the goal square. Wow imagine that North dictating to other clubs how they have to play?

Maybe the we could ask the opposition to apply no physical pressure to him so he gets a free run and jump at the ball.
It would also be great if they don't use his opponent in running the ball out of our forward half.

If this can happen I'm happy for him to continue in the side.

 

[Dirty_11]

Why the Maj bashing, one less touch than Petrie and same amount of goals as him tonight.
Let's be honest if it was for the 2-3 weeks when Petrie got going, his season would have been borderline VFL standard

Lonegan vs Rivers

 

[naturally north]

I agree with all above and also believe Daw and Drew (unless we move Drew to defence) can not work in the same team, I would love to see Daw parked in the goal square and see the damage he could do, he just gets totally lost playing as a "2014 AFL Forward" and yet he maybe the perfect forward to force other clubs to have to leave their full back in the goal square. Wow imagine that North dictating to other clubs how they have to play?

100% correct thought process, Daw's at his most dangerous when he can run at the ball, good ****en luck stopping him! I see and know he makes **** ups, but he has an ability to do what no one else on our list can.

Work with a guys strengths for God's sake.

One of the reason's Scott pisses me off.

 

[Dirty_11]

Here's a bit of a left wing idea. We lack a "monster" KPF so why not create one, bulk up daw to the Hawkins/Cloke level, 108Kg+ DAW-kins. Park him in the goal square. Lovely.

The only position for him IMO

 

[verypoorboy]

Majak's biggest issue is for a guy his size he has no idea how to make the most of his body. He should be spending the entire pre-season getting help with his positioning and judgement in a marking contest. Really concentrate on improving the body to body stuff, I think one-on-one time with someone like a Carey would do him wonders. At the moment he can only mark if he has really prime position when the ball is kicked....but in all seriousness unless there is a quick centrebreak how often is it gonna be passed perfectly to you.

 

[justroyal]

Majak's biggest issue is for a guy his size he has no idea how to make the most of his body. He should be spending the entire pre-season getting help with his positioning and judgement in a marking contest. Really concentrate on improving the body to body stuff, I think one-on-one time with someone like a Carey would do him wonders. At the moment he can only mark if he has really prime position when the ball is kicked....but in all seriousness unless there is a quick centrebreak how often is it gonna be passed perfectly to you.

If he is serious about his footy, then I don't know why he hasn't already? Shit. I don't know why Ziebell and Cunners haven't gone to Voss

 

[Rooboy 96]

Maybe the we could ask the opposition to apply no physical pressure to him so he gets a free run and jump at the ball.

yeah probably a better idea to throw our hands in the air and just delist him

It would also be great if they don't use his opponent in running the ball out of our forward half.

only need a couple of turnovers and Daw to be all by himself in the goal square to fix that issue, I don't think Daw's run and tackle is the major issue anyway, he does average over 2.5 tackles a game

If this can happen I'm happy for him to continue in the side.

I don't want to be happy with him continuing in the side, I want him to be turned into a weapon.

 

[verypoorboy]

If he is serious about his footy, then I don't know why he hasn't already? Shit. I don't know why Ziebell and Cunners haven't gone to Voss

If I had to take a wild guess......I'd say it all comes down to three letters. EGO.

-For North they don't wanna go begging Carey for help
....and for Carey nothing would be more satisfying to him then having the club he left in disgrace come crawling after him for help, so he ain't gonna voluntarily help us out easily. Therefore he will help out all the other key forwards around the AFL first before he would even consider the notion of helping any of ours.

Just my 2 cents, but hey I could be wrong

 

[Rooboy 96]

Majak's biggest issue is for a guy his size he has no idea how to make the most of his body. He should be spending the entire pre-season getting help with his positioning and judgement in a marking contest. Really concentrate on improving the body to body stuff, I think one-on-one time with someone like a Carey would do him wonders. At the moment he can only mark if he has really prime position when the ball is kicked....but in all seriousness unless there is a quick centrebreak how often is it gonna be passed perfectly to you.

Big fan of the Kings, but his want to play body on body with some players was his biggest flaw, the only thing as a player he could be ridiculed on was his want to play body on body instead of using his greatest strengths, speed courage and strength, so either you did not see him play or are too old to remember

 

[verypoorboy]

Big fan of the Kings, but his want to play body on body with some players was his biggest flaw, the only thing as a player he could be ridiculed on was his want to play body on body instead of using his greatest strengths, speed courage and strength, so either you did not see him play or are too old to remember

His body to body stuff wasn't his biggest assest but it would be better than most players out there no doubt.
Edit: Also when I mean body-to-body I meant positioning and having touch on you're opponent as well, not wresting per se

 

[Harris 10]

yeah probably a better idea to throw our hands in the air and just delist him

Exactly and replace him someone who has an ounce of knowledge. If we recruit a key position in this years draft he will have gone past him in 12 months.

only need a couple of turnovers and Daw to be all by himself in the goal square to fix that issue,

Like the other night when he was alone in the square, didn't go so well.

In all honesty, I want Majak to succeed and I've said on numerous occasions his debut game was high in my highlights as a North supporter.

But this experiment is over and it's time to move on.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Exactly and replace him someone who has an ounce of knowledge. If we recruit a key position in this years draft he will have gone past him in 12 months.

but how long does it take a key forward to develop enough to have an impact, remembering Carey type forwards don't just turn up at your club with pick 12 in the draft, so to not work with what we have is slamming the window shut and starting again, is that what you want?

Like the other night when he was alone in the square, didn't go so well.

yeah not good, but still better then a bloke with over 250 games experience thinking if he puts his toe out that will be enough, still can not believe some wanted to sell the farm for this bloke.

In all honesty, I want Majak to succeed and I've said on numerous occasions his debut game was high in my highlights as a North supporter.

that first 20 seconds was the biggest highlight in the last decade, and maybe that is why I have some faith that he is not cooked at a little over 23, 14 games to his credit and no pre-season this year.

But this experiment is over and it's time to move on.

not until the fat lady sings.

 

[Rooboy 96]

His body to body stuff wasn't his biggest assest but it would be better than most players out there no doubt.
Edit: Also when I mean body-to-body I meant positioning and having touch on you're opponent as well, not wresting per se

fair enough, I just get a feeling this boat has sailed or surely Carey would have been down when Majak said it would be great to have a chat a few months back.

 

[astrovic]

I agree with all above and also believe Daw and Drew (unless we move Drew to defence) can not work in the same team, I would love to see Daw parked in the goal square and see the damage he could do, he just gets totally lost playing as a "2014 AFL Forward" and yet he maybe the perfect forward to force other clubs to have to leave their full back in the goal square. Wow imagine that North dictating to other clubs how they have to play?

That theory is fine, except he has to contribute defensively as well. Everyone does. That's not just chasing his man out of F50, but forming part of defensive structures, zones and the like, e.g after we score a point.

Right now Maj gets lost in that transition from offence to defense. He gets badly lost trying to figure out where he should be defensively, then we win the ball back and he's not in the goal square, he's 60m from goal on the wrong flank. And you're right, it doesn't entirely help him that the spot he should be going to, Petrie is already there (not a bad thing, but tricky for Maj).

I'm hoping that right now he's thinking too hard and worrying too much, and losing track of what he should be doing in the process. I'm hoping that with some extra confidence, the game will suddenly become more obvious and simple to him and he starts becoming much more damaging as a result.

 

[Rooboy 96]

That theory is fine, except he has to contribute defensively as well. Everyone does. That's not just chasing his man out of F50, but forming part of defensive structures, zones and the like, e.g after we score a point.

Right now Maj gets lost in that transition from offence to defense. He gets badly lost trying to figure out where he should be defensively, then we win the ball back and he's not in the goal square, he's 60m from goal on the wrong flank. And you're right, it doesn't entirely help him that the spot he should be going to, Petrie is already there (not a bad thing, but tricky for Maj).

I'm hoping that right now he's thinking too hard and worrying too much, and losing track of what he should be doing in the process. I'm hoping that with some extra confidence, the game will suddenly become more obvious and simple to him and he starts becoming much more damaging as a result.

I agree with all you say, just have a look at how much defensive work Hawkins does, that is about as much as Majak needs to do if he is kicking 3 or 4 goals a week playing out of the goalsquare.

 

[Harris 10]

I agree with all you say, just have a look at how much defensive work Hawkins does, that is about as much as Majak needs to do if he is kicking 3 or 4 goals a week playing out of the goalsquare.

Be careful with that comment, I stated earlier in the year that unless he can kick 3 or 4 a game he is a liability and got slammed for it.

He is that bad in so many facets of the game that 3 or 4 goals a game is about the mark to offset his many flaws.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Be careful with that comment, I stated earlier in the year that unless he can kick 3 or 4 a game he is a liability and got slammed for it.

He is that bad in so many facets of the game that 3 or 4 goals a game is about the mark to offset his many flaws.

you do realise he is on a massive learning curve and the 3 to 4 goals a game would be the end product, if next year we got 1 to 3 every week playing out of the goal square I would be a very happy member.

 

[Deadeyeroo]

100% correct thought process, Daw's at his most dangerous when he can run at the ball, good ****en luck stopping him! I see and know he makes **** ups, but he has an ability to do what no one else on our list can.

Work with a guys strengths for God's sake.

One of the reason's Scott pisses me off.

Love the idea. I have been calling for Petrie to go in defense for probably 4 weeks now. We know he's a good KPD so why hasn't he gone there, he could gain some confidence. Typical of Wild Scotts not trying anything as far as changing positions. We go out with the same guys almost every week in the same positions and the opposition already basically have their plans in place to deal with us, get rid of this goose.

 

[DarwinRoo]

So Petrie goes to defence and our forward line consists of Black, Daw and Wood? Jesus Christ. Talk about going the tank.

 

[Harris 10]

you do realise he is on a massive learning curve and the 3 to 4 goals a game would be the end product, if next year we got 1 to 3 every week playing out of the goal square I would be a very happy member.

That massive curve has become a full circle and we are now back at square one.

 

[Elroo]

That massive curve has become a full circle and we are now back at square one.

Yep I hate to say it but I think we should delist him at end of the season and cut our losses.

 

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

They play different roles so the comparison isn't really a fair one.

Plus Brown has shown more than Maj, been one of the few shining lights of the season when looking at the future.

I thought the role we need currie, brown and maj was to be forward/ruck, to give goldy a rest. I see Brown and Currie are more ruck/forwards, i think maj has more upside as a forward/ruck but his reading of the game is just not quite there. Brown didnt excite me to much, but hasnt had the ideal game time to make a full assessment.

 

[Jack Reacher]

so the fish does not rot at the head first, besides Scott, all you want to change is a few kids and a few old warriors. and you call that a cleanout?

I have been of the opinion we will not win a flag whilst Drew (and I love Drew, great clubman blah blah blah) is at the club, he can not be relied on to be a match winner when needed, except against Richmond or in milestone games.

I didnt mention everyone because half our team would disappear, lol, I agree Drew has been largely poor this year, along with Black I might add, and is on his last legs no doubt about it. In a way it would be best for all concerned if we miss the finals again, only then would drastic/required change happen.

 

[astrovic]

So Petrie goes to defence and our forward line consists of Black, Daw and Wood? Jesus Christ. Talk about going the tank.

It's the reality we face when Drew retires though. We need him to go around again in 2015 cos our KPF depth is still so fragile. Fortunately I think Drew wants to go around again, but if he doesn't then things get...interesting.

However, I'd expect if say Drew retires at the end of this year, we would probably change our forward structure (and game plan) to suit a much smaller, more mobile forward line, with Thomas, Nahas, Tarrant and Black as the more permanent fixtures and Cunners, Ziebell, Wright, Dal and Boomer rotating forward more often. Kinda like how Freo and Port get their goals.

 

[King Corey]

Ok.

Majak doesn't chase enough defensively. Neither does half the side.

Majak doesn't organise former champions to mentor him enough in his own time. Who on the North list has?

As for playing to his strengths etc, if Kieran Harper has to go out of his way to get feedback from the coaches, who's to say anyone is properly mentoring Majak down at the funny farm?

Like so many North players, he's a shell of the confident talented kid of his first few games.