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Retired # 5: Brent Stanton - Essendon VFL Head Coach

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yaco55 said:
Endurance is being able to do it week out and week out - Time trials often don't = endurance on the field.
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Its those massive quads that allow Watson to get up and down off the ground effortlessly. They don't translate to running necessarily.

Stanton is still best 22 and deserves the chance to show what he's got when surrounded with the likes of Cooney and Colyer. He might be a perfect fit. If not then he is awesome depth and could be vital for us in that role...
 
yaco55 said:
Endurance is being able to do it week out and week out - Time trials often don't = endurance on the field.
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Once again the debate depends on how you define endurance. You can be a very good endurance athlete (run long distances) but not be able to perform week in week out on the field because its a different type of fatigue/recovery needed.

For what its worth id say Stanton is both, He is consistent most of the year and single handidly dragged us back into a few games in the last quarter last season when no one else wanted to run.

I want him to finish his career with us.
 
EVERY ****ING YEAR...
 
Knew this would happen :D

How many supporters here would say no to a late teens or early 20's pick in exchange for Stanton?
 

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Kakkle said:
Knew this would happen :D

How many supporters here would say no to a late teens or early 20's pick in exchange for Stanton?
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Me. You don't trade a heart and soul member of your club. The vice captain of the club for years and years, no less.
 
scezza said:
EVERY ******* YEAR...
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This year is different though isn't it? Who's spot does a rampant Gleeson/Jackson take if not Stanton? Hocking instead? There are no easy answers.
Kakkle said:
Knew this would happen :D

How many supporters here would say no to a late teens or early 20's pick in exchange for Stanton?
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You could role the dice on that, but i would give him one more year with faster players around him. On paper, having an endurance runner with the mix we already have looks great.
 
Our best 22 will be one of if not the oldest crop of players this year. James and the team have decided to throw everything at a small window which might not end up being there but they all know its the last year of Fletcher, Winderlich and Chapman with several other ageing players. If they cant get the desired result this year then it will be because the players arent good enough and some will have to be strongly considered to be moved on, Stanton probably is one of those players.

It will depend how much lack of speed is a factor this year. If it is a major factor to not succeeding then guys like Stanton, Hocking come under pressure.

The good thing is we have some talented players waiting on the fringe, could Jackson Merrett become better value off a wing than Stanton.
 
Every f*cking year, I swear to all that is James Hird...

Stanton is one of the most faithful servants that this club has ever had, and the suggestions to trade him, are, frankly, laughable.

At one point I'm just gonna instantly red card people who suggest this shit. Bugger me.
 
Seeing this from a purely hypothetical list management view. So I'm not sure why people are getting worked up over it.
 
Kakkle said:
Seeing this from a purely hypothetical list management view. So I'm not sure why people are getting worked up over it.
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Maybe because the season hasn't even started yet.
 
Kakkle said:
Knew this would happen :D

How many supporters here would say no to a late teens or early 20's pick in exchange for Stanton?
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If it was via free agency, absolutely. I like the parting of ways for mutual benefit that can occur.

Would not like to end up with him being shopped around on the trade table though.
 
VelvetSledge said:
Every f*cking year, I swear to all that is James Hird...

Stanton is one of the most faithful servants that this club has ever had, and the suggestions to trade him, are, frankly, laughable.

At one point I'm just gonna instantly red card people who suggest this shit. Bugger me.
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One day the guy is going to win us a final or a flag and I want all the people who wanted him traded to be tagged in this thread.

Hopefully this occurs this year.
 

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kelvin_sheedy said:
Hasn't fired a shot in the second half of the year for 3 years.

Looks like he's wearing bricks for boots. Think its an age and body thing. Just can't handle the buffeting for 22 rounds.
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Probably the darts.
 
yaco55 said:
Kelvin is correct - Stanton's second half of seasons is nowhere as good as his first half of season - It's been an issue for three years - For some reason his body gives up.
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There is a difference between not firing a shot at all and dropping off though.

No doubting he's dropped off in the second half of the past three seasons. But not fired a shot is harsh.
 
Pre-season still under way, what better time to grind the axe against Stanton.

You people are ****ing ridiculous.
 

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yaco55 said:
Kelvin is correct - Stanton's second half of seasons is nowhere as good as his first half of season - It's been an issue for three years - For some reason his body gives up.
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Wouldnt happen to have anything to do with the entire team dropping dead in the back end of seasons?
Or we just gonna blame it all on stanton? I assume thats what time of year we are in. I guess this type of discussion beats worrying about drugs
 
Doss said:
There is a difference between not firing a shot at all and dropping off though.

No doubting he's dropped off in the second half of the past three seasons. But not fired a shot is harsh.
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Firing a shot is an exaggeration - Anyway I will compile a list of footy myths during the course of the year - That are perpetuated by the media.
 
Mercurial89 said:
Wouldnt happen to have anything to do with the entire team dropping dead in the back end of seasons?
Or we just gonna blame it all on stanton? I assume thats what time of year we are in. I guess this type of discussion beats worrying about drugs
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the thread is about Stanton - Not the rest of the team - His form drops off in the second half of the season - That's a fact.

Team played OK in the second half of the team in 2014.
 
It's a bit of a worry that a mod is threatening, even if joking ( is he joking?), to card people for having a contrary opinion on a player and others are cracking the sads because a topic has been bought up again. Isn't part of the point of this board to have debate about the direction and play of our club and its players?

Personally, I'd move Stanton if a 'fair' offer was around, and would have done so 2 years ago.

Yeah, he's been a great clubman and I'm appreciative of his efforts in the red and black, but he's been well compensated for his time here and I'm sure the club could and would find a role for him in the future if he was interested. Money isn't everything, sure, but the club doesn't necessarily owe him either.
I don't think it's a coincidence that him sitting so high on the all time games played list coincides with one of our poorest on field periods in a while. That's not his fault, but if we had of had a side in the last decade that looked remotely like challenging for a flag I question just how many games he would have played.

He has very good endurance, but other than that is just an average AFL player (there's nothing wrong with that). His disposal hasn't improved at all (witness some of his terrible inside 50 attempts last season) and nor really has his decision making. he gets a lot of the ball (especially calling for it from our young guys) but often puts himself in a terrible position to receive it, either because he is too close to another player or is unaware of where an opponent is.

I assume he'll be best 22 this season, but i'm not sure how long past this one.

It doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but for a senior player his effort in the dying seconds of the Melbourne debacle last year was one of the worst you'll ever see. A first year player would have been dropped for a month for the effort he showed on the wing, for a senior player it was pretty much unforgivable.
 
mike14 said:
It's a bit of a worry that a mod is threatening, even if joking ( is he joking?), to card people for having a contrary opinion on a player and others are cracking the sads because a topic has been bought up again. Isn't part of the point of this board to have debate about the direction and play of our club and its players?
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You're absolutely right mike and I'm sure he is joking. Moderators are still allowed to have opinions though and speaking for myself just as another poster I find the timing of the topic mildly distasteful. It may well be a conversation for later in the season though. Having said that, if that's what people want to talk about then by all means go for it as long as it stays within the board rules.
 
yaco55 said:
the thread is about Stanton - Not the rest of the team - His form drops off in the second half of the season - That's a fact.

Team played OK in the second half of the team in 2014.
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its also a fact that the team has dropped off in previous seasons, with many of our players having incredibly poor finishes.
So until people start posting it in other players threads ill take it for what it is-
the start of another seasons worth of attacks of this boards whipping boy who has never got the respect he has earnt for what he has done for this club.
He's actually just come off one of his statistically best years.
 

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