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What? Your club still did the wrong thing and dragged the game through the mudWe need our picks back now.
So you're happy simply not knowing what the players took?It's over mate. Not guilty. The season is about to start. Move on
Can you provide evidence of this?Unanimously decided they couldnt be comfortably satisfied they were injected - because of the shredders. Doesnt mean they didnt dope.. which they did
guilty of running an irresponsible supplement program, yep, agreed to that 2 years ago
Yep because it would show drugs were given, just not sure who. My opinion has always been that dank went beyond what he was supposed to or gave stuff he thought was legal but failed to check and it was illegal in sport. Always wanted players to be cleared but fines to essendon.You want someone to be found guilty of administering a substance to people found not to have had it administered to them?
Is there any reason the decision on Dank is being delayed?
It would look pretty weird if he gets found guilty of administering a prohibited substance but the players are cleared of being administered a prohibited substance.
they said on SEN that Dank is facing far more charges than administering TB4 to Essendon players, so his case is much more complicated
Oh I have, I just figured that there should be a whole lot of defamation actions coming out against the various news agencies, for articles like the Hal Hunter beatup, the details leaked in the interim reported etc so I was wondering if we would find out what was actually administered not what was reported as being administered.It's over mate. Not guilty. The season is about to start. Move on
People are so distorted with the facts here.
People / the media have formed an opinion that Essendon got away with taking performace enhancing drugs. Not true or highly unlikely that they were ever given anything that is illegal.
Essendon fans have been saying this all along and they were correct. However Essendon also refuse to acknowledge that their coaches were running their own "clinical trials" on players, injecting them with stuff they barely know what it is. The only reason they are being accused of being "cheats" is that the stuff they were injecting was so undocumented and the purchasing records were so shady that it raised suspicions. They had no idea what they were giving to the players.
HIGHLY unlikely that Essendon are "drug cheats", so people should stop with this routine and educate themselves. in saying that, it's still 100% certain that Hird is an absolute moron for allowing players to be injected with stuff they have no idea about the long term effects of, and he 100% should be fired for his actions. No if's no buts. So Essendon supporters should pull their heads out of their a** and stop acting like their club has done nothing wrong. They tainted the competition with their own incompetence and Hird's stupidity. Essendon are still a major lawsuit target from former players over this, and they better hope that spud rookie that is suing them isn't successful.
Essendon still deserve everything they got from this.
It looks to me like the tribunal has only considered 'use' and not 'attempted' use.
From a cursory glance. I need to see the reasons in detail.
ASADA were instructed NOT to charge players but they proceeded anywayWell if the evidence wasn't there then good grief... What the hell have ASADA been doing for 2 years?
I am quite surprised at this, was expecting a guilty verdict with a very soft penalty given some of the fairly incriminating evidence that was leaked.
I think many still think they probably did take TB4 but it just can't be proven to comfortable satisfaction. Will be interesting to see what WADA do, and may also be an indication of how strong ASADA/WADA truly believe their evidence is.
I can't help but feel this sets a horrible precedent.
Setup a sports scientist as the fall guy. Get him to be deliberately vague with all documentation and use substances that can't be detected.
Then sit back and say "Prove who took what, we aren't telling lulz"
Essendon supporters must be relieved.
if you'd been through what we've been through you'd probably allow yourself a little leeway too
So you're happy simply not knowing what the players took?
I'd hope the full judgement would reveal their opinion on Essendon's version of events.
It's very possible they didn't believe Essendon but still couldn't rule against them.
What's he going to be found guilty of though?more complex case involving more than essendon players. No result yet
Oh I have, I just figured that there should be a whole lot of defamation actions coming out against the various news agencies, for articles like the Hal Hunter beatup, the details leaked in the interim reported etc so I was wondering if we would find out what was actually administered not what was reported as being administered.
Saint Jimmy has been appealing for 2 yrs. I think ASADA/WADA are allowed their turn nowTWO YEARS LOL
Appeal? GTFOutta here
That's how the justice system works.
EVIDENCE.
You on the other hand are ASSUMING.
And the standard of evidence wasn't even "beyond reasonable doubt", it was "comfortable satisfaction", and Essendon was STILL found NOT GUILTY.
Let it go already. ASADA had nothing to stand on, we all knew it was all bluff.
What a strange statement. Have already congratulated your mob. Haven't carried on like a pork chop declaring the afl and tribunal to be crooked. I am still allowed an opinion on it though. So you'll just have to live with that. Or not.Until (if) evidence is released, you're going to have to cop this decision sweet.
you made it sound like the club were guilty of doping even if the players were cleared. If that was not your intention then Im sorrySo what's your argument with my statement again?
If he does we'll sue him.Lol Buddy will make them wish they were banned. He'll kick 10+ in round one.