Opinion The Official Brad Scott Thread - Back, at the club (Relax - bumped thread)

[Event Horizon]

if we're serious then this game needs to be more like 80/20

In our current form and without our 3 best midfielders, coming back from Perth, playing at the G and given last year's result, I'd say it's a 50/50 unfortunately.

If we are serious about Hobart being our home ground then this game needs to be 90/10

Have you seen the Eagles play this year?

On current form it would be more like 20/80

Swans don't play Etihad well.

 

[dus]

4-0 pass the tissues.

3-1 would be very nice.

2-2 most realistic.

1-3 is a disaster.

0-4 start looking at next year.

 

[scooby1279]

4-0 pass the tissues.

3-1 would be very nice.

2-2 most realistic.

1-3 is a disaster.

0-4 start looking at next year.

1-3 AND 0-4 I will be putting Brad on notice.

 

[Only Forwards]

In our current form and without our 3 best midfielders, coming back from Perth, playing at the G and given last year's result, I'd say it's a 50/50 unfortunately.

You're probably right, but they are also the most out of form of the next 4. We have to make it count.

Have you seen the Eagles play this year?

Yeah but this is a home game at a joint we wnat to be a fortress, we cannot ship games there and lose them.

Swans don't play Etihad well.

We don't play the Swans well so that evens that out.

 

[BowWow1978]

Whose VFL form are we ignoring?

Should be selected:
Majak right now.
Wood for all of last year.
Brown was not selected for round 1 of this year, when every single NM supporter in the world could tell you he's a lock in this side.

Waite still getting a game
Atley still getting a game

 

[dus]

Should be selected:
Majak right now.
Wood for all of last year.
Brown was not selected for round 1 of this year, when every single NM supporter in the world could tell you he's a lock in this side.

Waite still getting a game
Atley still getting a game

Greenwood non selection for years was the worst of the lot.

Lucky it didn't come back to bite us. Oh wait....

 

[GarnerSmash]

Greenwood non selection for years was the worst of the lot.

Lucky it didn't come back to bite us. Oh wait....

Up until late 2013 the bloke was a liability when he didn't win the ball at the stoppage, and that ain't revisionism. There is a reason he wasn't playing but I expect that fact to be ignored or forgotten again and again and again and again and again and again and again and a....

Kudos to him for busting his arse and becoming a reasonably reliable midfielder defensively and a bull at the gate around the stoppages. He earned that contract with the Pies due to his hard work and efforts behind the scenes by our coaches in making him AFL standard in all aspects of his game.

 

[Wild Bill]

Greenwood non selection for years was the worst of the lot.

Lucky it didn't come back to bite us. Oh wait....

Just what we need another player that butches the ball. We can get it - we can't use it and Greenwood is as bad as Gibson and Jacobs.

Higgins adds more value to our team.

 

[tazaa]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...against-adelaide/story-e6frf3e3-1227295619072
Hopefully we bounce back and its all positive itll never happen again.. the boys can talk it out and all

 

[scooby1279]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...against-adelaide/story-e6frf3e3-1227295619072
Hopefully we bounce back and its all positive itll never happen again.. the boys can talk it out and all

can find similar articles from the last 3 years.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...against-adelaide/story-e6frf3e3-1227295619072
Hopefully we bounce back and its all positive itll never happen again.. the boys can talk it out and all

Round and round and round we go.......

 

[Only Forwards]

Up until late 2013 the bloke was a liability when he didn't win the ball at the stoppage, and that ain't revisionism.

I agree to this being accurate, but its not like we had a group of mids at AFL level that didn't repeatedly let us down, who when they did faced a consequence of no time in the VFL.

Year on year we have faced 10 goal hidings followed by a couple of changes to periphery players here and there.

Brad really only swings the axe when we hit catastrophe.

 

[GarnerSmash]

I agree to this being accurate, but its not like we had a group of mids at AFL level that didn't repeatedly let us down, who when they did faced a consequence of no time in the VFL.

Year on year we have faced 10 goal hidings followed by a couple of changes to periphery players here and there.

Brad really only swings the axe when we hit catastrophe.

It reflects his mantra and the mantra of many coaches these days, stick to your role first, play football second. Most of our boys can stick to their roles but by **** can they fail at playing football a lot of the time lately.

 

[archereleven]

McMahon - done and dusted.
Daw - will get his chance, but is hardly knocking the door down at VFL. And we've seen enough of him at AFL level to know there are glaring holes in his game.
Mullet - had just two VFL games. Will get in comfortably when ready
LA - enough said
Ayden Kennedy - where was the queue of other clubs to at least rookie list him when he was cut?

 

[Event Horizon]

How many great games he played before this week?

 

[Only Forwards]

It reflects his mantra and the mantra of many coaches these days, stick to your role first, play football second. Most of our boys can stick to their roles but by **** can they fail at playing football a lot of the time lately.

It sacares me how much of what Tef said 3 years ago rings in my ears now.

Under a different plan one where we collectively worked out how to play to the teams individual strengths and mold that into team performance, what would happen if we played games that way rather than saying this is the plan now get the players to fit it.

 

[Only Forwards]

How many great games he played before this week?

has consistently kicked goals the last few weeks, has had decent form for a bit.

We took an underdone Waite in, in front of a fully fit Maj.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

has consistently kicked goals the last few weeks, has had decent form for a bit.

We took an underdone Waite in, in front of a fully fit Maj.

The magnets are glued on.

 

[archereleven]

How many great games he played before this week?

From what ive read he has been playing some pretty good footy the last 6 weeks(except for last week.)

 

[kelman]

Should be selected:
Majak right now.
Wood for all of last year.
Brown was not selected for round 1 of this year, when every single NM supporter in the world could tell you he's a lock in this side.

Waite still getting a game
Atley still getting a game

That is the list over two seasons? Ask any supporter of another team and they will have similar selection gripes. We don't have all the info.

 

[GarnerSmash]

It sacares me how much of what Tef said 3 years ago rings in my ears now.

Under a different plan one where we collectively worked out how to play to the teams individual strengths and mold that into team performance, what would happen if we played games that way rather than saying this is the plan now get the players to fit it.

We'd probably be a 5-10 side tbh. Talent wise that is where we sit. The dreaded 'structures' are in place with a defence first attitude, and that goes for all teams. The process is first to determine how the units can set up with personnel in mind to minimise damage. I think we do that now, hence our use of Hansen and Thompson in the back half. We do this very, very well tbh. This also negates somewhat our lack of run, zip and class further up field. Change our focus to be more attacking from the middle and we may just expose this back half set up and end up getting flogged by more.

Problem is that this group is so far down this path that Scott can't just scrap it now. A few tweaks here and there, sure, but wholesale structural changes are likely not going to happen under his watch. So, either the team shape up and perform better within the current set up or they don't and Scott goes at the end of the year.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Part of me kind of hopes that Brad gets the flick so that some of the heat will start being applied to the players.

He is well and truly a heat shield placed over them at the minute. Unless you're a whipping boy you cop nothing from our supporters over the last 3 or so years.

Coach can only do so much to motivate the players, the players need to want to succeed as well.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

We'd probably be a 5-10 side tbh. Talent wise that is where we sit. The dreaded 'structures' are in place with a defence first attitude, and that goes for all teams. The process is first to determine how the units can set up with personnel in mind to minimise damage. I think we do that now, hence our use of Hansen and Thompson in the back half. We do this very, very well tbh. This also negates somewhat our lack of run, zip and class further up field. Change our focus to be more attacking from the middle and we may just expose this back half set up and end up getting flogged by more.

Problem is that this group is so far down this path that Scott can't just scrap it now. A few tweaks here and there, sure, but wholesale structural changes are likely not going to happen under his watch. So, either the team shape up and perform better within the current set up or they don't and Scott goes at the end of the year.

There isn't even a few tweaks here and there.

It's the same week in, week out.

It's not working.

 

[Only Forwards]

We'd probably be a 5-10 side tbh. Talent wise that is where we sit. The dreaded 'structures' are in place with a defence first attitude, and that goes for all teams. The process is first to determine how the units can set up with personnel in mind to minimise damage. I think we do that now, hence our use of Hansen and Thompson in the back half. We do this very, very well tbh. This also negates somewhat our lack of run, zip and class further up field. Change our focus to be more attacking from the middle and we may just expose this back half set up and end up getting flogged by more.

Talent wise, so we need to make up the difference with something, historically that has been intent, Hard at the man hard at the ball. Right now that is not always the case and 4-6 times a year it is so far from the case it is not funny.

Problem is that this group is so far down this path that Scott can't just scrap it now. A few tweaks here and there, sure, but wholesale structural changes are likely not going to happen under his watch. So, either the team shape up and perform better within the current set up or they don't and Scott goes at the end of the year.

He won't walk, and we are probably more likely to recontract him than we are to sack him.

 

[naturally north]

There isn't even a few tweaks here and there.

It's the same week in, week out.

It's not working.

Don't lose sight of the fact we also aint good enough.