Cyril Rioli is still the most overrated player of all time.

[William Wonka]

Reigning premiership captain kicked to the curb just days after winning a flag -

Then to add insult to injury, son of premiership captain thrown in the gutter -

And another favourite son also unceremoniously kicked to the curb -

Exactly how long have you been following your club..?

There is a huge difference between discarding a champion and gently putting them out to pasture but feel free to give me your opinion of how many more seasons Tucky had left in him? (We know what a great half dozen games Dermie had post Hawthorn).
As for Tuck junior- I agree that was a shame although the blame can be squarley placed on the corrupting influence of one of his relatives, who Im ashamed to say played a few games for Hawthorn- a real disgusting piece of reptilian filth.

 

[chefmeister]

There is a huge difference between discarding a champion and gently putting them out to pasture but feel free to give me your opinion of how many more seasons Tucky had left in him? (We know what a great half dozen games Dermie had post Hawthorn).
As for Tuck junior- I agree that was a shame although the blame can be squarley placed on the corrupting influence of one of his relatives, who Im ashamed to say played a few games for Hawthorn- a real disgusting piece of reptilian filth.

Nice excuse but blaming Geelong for the demise of your youf and trying to sugar coat kicking your champs to the curb as "gentle retirement" won't wash around here I'm afraid.

Besides it's got nothing to do with what I think about their futures but Tuck and Derm were adamant they wanted to play on at Hawforn and the disloyalty your club showed those guys makes a mockery of your initial post on the subject. You're even showing the same disloyalty with your own thoughts on Derm's career post Hawforn in the wonder of hindsight. Culture.

The Travis Tuck fiasco is just extra salt rubbed into his old mans wounds by the club he bled for.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Reigning premiership captain kicked to the curb just days after winning a flag -

Not talking him out of coaching the Cats reserves was probably the worst part

 

[maryjames]

Thought Cyril was excellent again. He may not dominate one-two possessions like Swan or GAblett but geez he has a significant influence on the big games.

Channel 7 commentator?

 

[William Wonka]

Nice excuse but blaming Geelong for the demise of your youf and trying to sugar coat kicking your champs to the curb as "gentle retirement" won't wash around here I'm afraid.

Besides it's got nothing to do with what I think about their futures but Tuck and Derm were adamant they wanted to play on at Hawforn and the disloyalty your club showed those guys makes a mockery of your initial post on the subject. You're even showing the same disloyalty with your own thoughts on Derm's career post Hawforn in the wonder of hindsight. Culture.

The Travis Tuck fiasco is just extra salt rubbed into his old mans wounds by the club he bled for.

I think you are confused, where did I mention Geelong at all pray tell let alone tie them to our youth?
What you did to Kelly, Stokes, Johnson and Chapman etc. is well discussed on your board and is not universally loved there thats for sure.
Not the case for Tuck n Derm.
Tucky had played 450 odd games over 20 seasons so I reckon his career was at its end.
Dermot was cooked- totally and absolutely. He took a season off and when he came back he was still cooked.

 

[chefmeister]

I think you are confused, where did I mention Geelong at all pray tell let alone tie them to our youth?
What you did to Kelly, Stokes, Johnson and Chapman etc. is well discussed on your board and is not universally loved there thats for sure.
Not the case for Tuck n Derm.
Tucky had played 450 odd games over 20 seasons so I reckon his career was at its end.
Dermot was cooked- totally and absolutely. He took a season off and when he came back he was still cooked.

Still doesn't excuse the lack of loyalty your club showed them which you loudly stated before never happens at the Hawfs.

 

[William Wonka]

Still doesn't excuse the lack of loyalty your club showed them which you loudly stated before never happens at the Hawfs.

They were retired because their time was up. Not so we could bring in a one man band to (unsuccessfully) attempt to save the club.

 

[chefmeister]

They were retired because their time was up. Not so we could bring in a one man band to (unsuccessfully) attempt to save the club.

So disloyalty is shown at Hawforn then.
Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[William Wonka]

So disloyalty is shown at Hawforn then.
Thanks for clearing that up.

More like compassion- a bit like putting a beloved pet out of their misery.
Both should have known its time to go but
Tucky was probably getting a bit senile at the age he was and Dermie was as thick as pigshit then(hes nowhere near that smart now of course )

 

[STP18]

How rude was it of Dangerfield to show up Cyril's 17 & 2 with a 30 & 4.

 

[TazHawk15]

That wouldn't matter, he'd just end up getting a free kick at every centre bounce just like our captain.

 

[Laphroaig]

How rude was it of Dangerfield to show up Cyril's 17 & 2 with a 30 & 4.

In this case the stats don't lie. Dangerfield is twice the footballer Rioli is.

 

[Back One Out]

How rude was it of Dangerfield to show up Cyril's 17 & 2 with a 30 & 4.

So you've given up on those hacks, Tom Porkins and Stevie Shitflop ???
Can't say I blame you. They were f**kin' useless last night.

1 goal between them.

Porkins was schooled by Zac Dawson
Might be time to give him a spell in the VFL

 

[STP18]

So you've given up on those hacks, Tom Porkins and Stevie Shitflop ???
Can't say I blame you. They were f**kin' useless last night.

1 goal between them.

Porkins was schooled by Zac Dawson
Might be time to give him a spell in the VFL

Motlop with a lazy 26 touches. Cyril's highest ever was way back in 2011 with 29. That's just an average game for Motlop.

 

[Back One Out]

Motlop with a lazy 26 touches.

'Lazy' being the operative word in that sentence. 22 of his 26 possessions were uncontested and they were all shit anyway. He was a lurking chip scab all night, watching his team-mates do all the dirty work.

Cyril's highest ever was way back in 2011 with 29. That's just an average game for Motlop.

Lol.. Motlop plays as Wing/HFF. It's his job to get 25-30 possessions. Cyril never lurks around the midfield, racking up meaningless possessions like Shitlop. He draws multiple defenders to him forward of centre and goes in for the occasional centre bounce

Anway, Cyril doesn't keep a tally of his 'touches'. More focused on putting pressure on opponents, causing turnovers and creating scoring opportunities for his team. That's what he builds his game around. The magic highlight reel stuff is just the icing on top.

 

[Back One Out]

AFL's Top 40 Goalkickers
53 Josh Kennedy, Lance Franklin
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
43 Josh Jenkins
41 Eddie Betts
38 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
37 Jack Riewoldt
35 Taylor Walker
34 Tom Hawkins
33 Jeremy Cameron, Jake Stringer, Luke Breust
32 Jack Darling
31 Cyril Rioli
30 Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts
29 Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson
28 Tim Membrey, Aaron Young, Toby Greene, Paul Puopolo
27 Josh Bruce, Ben Brown, Jarrad Waite
26 Sam Lloyd, Mark LeCras
25 Brent Harvey
24 Alex Fasolo, Matthew Pavlich, Joe Daniher, Hayden Ballantyne, Tom Lynch (Ad), Michael Walters, Steven Motlop
23 Lindsay Thomas, Daniel Menzel, James Sicily
22 Ty Vickery




Here's how they rank in other facets of the game...



Tackles (avg)
6.1 Cyril Rioli
4.6 Paul Puopolo
4.1 Luke Breust, Jarrad Waite
3.9 Toby Greene
3.8 Eddie Betts
3.5 Aaron Young, Mark LeCras
3.4 Josh Kennedy, Michael Walters
3.3 Jack Gunston
3.2 Matthew Pavlich
3.1 Alex Fasolo, Lindsay Thomas
2.9 Tom Hawkins, Sam Lloyd, Hayden Ballantyne
2.6 Josh Bruce
2.5 Lance Franklin, Brent Harvey
2.4 Jack Darling
2.2 Jack Riewoldt, Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson, Daniel Menzel
2.0 Josh Jenkins
1.9 Steven Motlop
1.8 Jake Stringer, James Sicily
1.7 Tom Lynch (GC), Jesse Hogan, Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts, Ty Vickery
1.6 Tim Membrey, Tom Lynch (Adel)
1.5 Taylor Walker, Jeremy Cameron
1.4 Ben Brown
1.1 Joe Daniher




Contested possessions
8.1 Cyril Rioli, Luke Breust
8.0 Jarrad Waite
7.9 Paul Puopolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
7.7 Jack Riewoldt
7.6 Charlie Dixon
7.4 Eddie Betts, Steve Johnson
7.3 Josh Kennedy
7.2 Chad Wingard
7.1 Jake Stringer, Aaron Young, Toby Greene
7.0 Tom Lynch (GC)
6.9 Lance Franklin
6.8 Michael Walters
6.6 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
6.5 Alex Fasolo
6.2 Josh Jenkins
6.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Watts, Ben Brown
6.0 Tom Hawkins, James Sicily, Daniel Menzel
5.9 Jack Darling, Mark LeCras, Matthew Pavlich
5.7 Brent Harvey
5.5 Josh Bruce, Joe Daniher
5.4 Hayden Ballantyne, Lindsay Thomas
5.1 Jeremy Cameron
4.9 Tim Membrey
4.7 Sam Lloyd
4.6 Steven Motlop
4.4 Ty Vickery




Effective possessions + tackles + 1%ers
19.4 Toby Greene
18.1 Brent Harvey
17.6 Cyril Rioli, Jack Gunston
17.5 Michael Walters
17.1 Aaron Young
16.6 Steven Motlop
16.1 Paul Puopolo
16.0 Alex Fasolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
15.9 Jack Watts
15.7 Lance Franklin
15.5 Jarrad Waite
14.8 Luke Breust
14.6 Eddie Betts
14.5 Steve Johnson, Mark LeCras
14.3 Chad Wingard
13.9 Daniel Menzel, Josh Jenkins, Jesse Hogan
13.7 Jake Stringer
13.6 Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt
13.3 Matthew Pavlich, Sam Lloyd
13.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Darling
12.9 Charlie Dixon, Tom Lynch (GC)
12.3 Hayden Ballantyne
12.2 Tom Hawkins, Ben Brown, Tim Membrey
11.7 Josh Bruce
11.0 Joe Daniher
10.8 Jeremy Cameron, Lindsay Thomas
10.7 James Sicily
8.9 Ty Vickery



Champion Data
102.5 Josh Kennedy
96.4 Jack Gunston
96.0 Jarrad Waite
95.5 Jack Riewoldt
95.4 Lance Franklin
92.9 Josh Jenkins
90.7 Cyril Rioli
90.5 Brent Harvey, Tom Lynch (GC)
90.3 Tom Lynch (Adel)
89.1 Eddie Betts
87.7 Jesse Hogan
87.3 Toby Greene
84.6 Jack Watts
84.1 Aaron Young
83.9 Taylor Walker
83.8 Chad Wingard
83.6 Steven Motlop
82.7 Paul Puopolo, Michael Walters
82.5 Steve Johnson
82.0 Daniel Menzel
81.5 Luke Breust
81.4 Alex Fasolo
78.2 Jake Stringer
77.9 Mark Lecras
77.5 Tom Hawkins, Tim Membrey
76.9 Matthew Pavlich
76.5 Ben Brown
74.6 Jack Darling
74.0 Sam Lloyd
72.9 Jeremy Cameron
72.3 Charlie Dixon
64.3 Joe Daniher, James Sicily
62.7 Hayden Ballantyne
60.9 Lindsay Thomas
58.2 Josh Bruce
55.3 Ty Vickery



AFLCA votes (forwards)
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
45 Josh Kennedy
40 Lance Franklin, Eddie Betts
31 Cyril Rioli
28 Toby Greene
27 Jack Watts
26 Tom Lynch (Adel), Nick Riewoldt
24 Jack Gunston, Jarrad Waite, Jesse Hogan
23 Luke Dahlhaus
22 Steve Johnson
22 Josh Jenkins
21 Taylor Walker
17 Charlie Dixon
15 Jake Stringer, Paul Puopolo, Mark LeCras
14 Brent Harvey, Tim Membrey, Isaac Heeney
13 Jeremy Cameron, Rory Lobb
12 Michael Walters, Alex Fasolo, Jack Darling, Joe Daniher
11 Aaron Young, James Sicily
10 Jack Riewoldt
9 Orazio Fantasia
8 Chad Wingard, Shane Edwards, Dan Menzel, Charlie Cameron, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner




Conclusion:
Based on stats alone, Cyril Rioli and Eddie Betts are clearly the two best small forwards of 2016.
Betts has been the best finisher with 2.75 goals per game, while Cyril's contested work & defensive pressure has been off the charts.

 

[KardiniaPark]

Not insecure at all.

 

[Back One Out]

Not insecure at all.

Nothing to do with security or insecurity. Just posting about footy and dispelling myths.
I don't really give two f**ks what opposition fans think of Cyril.
I put those stats up mainly for all the Hawk fans who glance at this thread.

 

[STP18]

AFL's Top 40 Goalkickers
53 Josh Kennedy, Lance Franklin
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
43 Josh Jenkins
41 Eddie Betts
38 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
37 Jack Riewoldt
35 Taylor Walker
34 Tom Hawkins
33 Jeremy Cameron, Jake Stringer, Luke Breust
32 Jack Darling
31 Cyril Rioli
30 Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts
29 Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson
28 Tim Membrey, Aaron Young, Toby Greene, Paul Puopolo
27 Josh Bruce, Ben Brown, Jarrad Waite
26 Sam Lloyd, Mark LeCras
25 Brent Harvey
24 Alex Fasolo, Matthew Pavlich, Joe Daniher, Hayden Ballantyne, Tom Lynch (Ad), Michael Walters, Steven Motlop
23 Lindsay Thomas, Daniel Menzel, James Sicily
22 Ty Vickery




Here's how they rank in other facets of the game...



Tackles (avg)
6.1 Cyril Rioli
4.6 Paul Puopolo
4.1 Luke Breust, Jarrad Waite
3.9 Toby Greene
3.8 Eddie Betts
3.5 Aaron Young, Mark LeCras
3.4 Josh Kennedy, Michael Walters
3.3 Jack Gunston
3.2 Matthew Pavlich
3.1 Alex Fasolo, Lindsay Thomas
2.9 Tom Hawkins, Sam Lloyd, Hayden Ballantyne
2.6 Josh Bruce
2.5 Lance Franklin, Brent Harvey
2.4 Jack Darling
2.2 Jack Riewoldt, Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson, Daniel Menzel
2.0 Josh Jenkins
1.9 Steven Motlop
1.8 Jake Stringer, James Sicily
1.7 Tom Lynch (GC), Jesse Hogan, Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts, Ty Vickery
1.6 Tim Membrey, Tom Lynch (Adel)
1.5 Taylor Walker, Jeremy Cameron
1.4 Ben Brown
1.1 Joe Daniher




Contested possessions
8.1 Cyril Rioli, Luke Breust
8.0 Jarrad Waite
7.9 Paul Puopolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
7.7 Jack Riewoldt
7.6 Charlie Dixon
7.4 Eddie Betts, Steve Johnson
7.3 Josh Kennedy
7.2 Chad Wingard
7.1 Jake Stringer, Aaron Young, Toby Greene
7.0 Tom Lynch (GC)
6.9 Lance Franklin
6.8 Michael Walters
6.6 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
6.5 Alex Fasolo
6.2 Josh Jenkins
6.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Watts, Ben Brown
6.0 Tom Hawkins, James Sicily, Daniel Menzel
5.9 Jack Darling, Mark LeCras, Matthew Pavlich
5.7 Brent Harvey
5.5 Josh Bruce, Joe Daniher
5.4 Hayden Ballantyne, Lindsay Thomas
5.1 Jeremy Cameron
4.9 Tim Membrey
4.7 Sam Lloyd
4.6 Steven Motlop
4.4 Ty Vickery




Effective possessions + tackles + 1%ers
19.4 Toby Greene
18.1 Brent Harvey
17.6 Cyril Rioli, Jack Gunston
17.5 Michael Walters
17.1 Aaron Young
16.6 Steven Motlop
16.1 Paul Puopolo
16.0 Alex Fasolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
15.9 Jack Watts
15.7 Lance Franklin
15.5 Jarrad Waite
14.8 Luke Breust
14.6 Eddie Betts
14.5 Steve Johnson, Mark LeCras
14.3 Chad Wingard
13.9 Daniel Menzel, Josh Jenkins, Jesse Hogan
13.7 Jake Stringer
13.6 Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt
13.3 Matthew Pavlich, Sam Lloyd
13.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Darling
12.9 Charlie Dixon, Tom Lynch (GC)
12.3 Hayden Ballantyne
12.2 Tom Hawkins, Ben Brown, Tim Membrey
11.7 Josh Bruce
11.0 Joe Daniher
10.8 Jeremy Cameron, Lindsay Thomas
10.7 James Sicily
8.9 Ty Vickery



Champion Data
102.5 Josh Kennedy
96.4 Jack Gunston
96.0 Jarrad Waite
95.5 Jack Riewoldt
95.4 Lance Franklin
92.9 Josh Jenkins
90.7 Cyril Rioli
90.5 Brent Harvey, Tom Lynch (GC)
90.3 Tom Lynch (Adel)
89.1 Eddie Betts
87.7 Jesse Hogan
87.3 Toby Greene
84.6 Jack Watts
84.1 Aaron Young
83.9 Taylor Walker
83.8 Chad Wingard
83.6 Steven Motlop
82.7 Paul Puopolo, Michael Walters
82.5 Steve Johnson
82.0 Daniel Menzel
81.5 Luke Breust
81.4 Alex Fasolo
78.2 Jake Stringer
77.9 Mark Lecras
77.5 Tom Hawkins, Tim Membrey
76.9 Matthew Pavlich
76.5 Ben Brown
74.6 Jack Darling
74.0 Sam Lloyd
72.9 Jeremy Cameron
72.3 Charlie Dixon
64.3 Joe Daniher, James Sicily
62.7 Hayden Ballantyne
60.9 Lindsay Thomas
58.2 Josh Bruce
55.3 Ty Vickery



AFLCA votes
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
45 Josh Kennedy
40 Lance Franklin, Eddie Betts
31 Cyril Rioli
28 Toby Greene
27 Jack Watts
26 Tom Lynch (Adel), Nick Riewoldt
24 Jack Gunston, Jarrad Waite, Jesse Hogan
23 Luke Dahlhaus
22 Steve Johnson
22 Josh Jenkins
21 Taylor Walker
17 Charlie Dixon
15 Jake Stringer, Paul Puopolo, Mark LeCras
14 Brent Harvey, Tim Membrey, Isaac Heeney
13 Jeremy Cameron, Rory Lobb
12 Michael Walters, Alex Fasolo, Jack Darling, Joe Daniher
11 Aaron Young, James Sicily
10 Jack Riewoldt
9 Orazio Fantasia
8 Chad Wingard, Shane Edwards, Dan Menzel, Charlie Cameron, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner




Conclusion:
Based on stats alone, Cyril Rioli and Eddie Betts are clearly the two best small forwards of 2016.
Betts has been the best finisher with 2.75 goals per game, while Cyril's contested work & defensive pressure has been off the charts.

That's a stats melt to put Hawkk to shame. Kudos to you.

 

[Back One Out]

That's a stats melt to put Hawkk to shame. Kudos to you.

Nah, no melt

Following the footy and occasionally dissecting the stats is a hobby

Just having fun

 

[Alfred_]

I like it how the Hawfies always feel the need to justify Cyril as a good player

 

[Cat A]

More like compassion- a bit like putting a beloved pet out of their misery.
Both should have known its time to go but
Tucky was probably getting a bit senile at the age he was and Dermie was as thick as pigshit then(hes nowhere near that smart now of course )

Hahaha you wittingly liken compulsorily retiring players over thirty to killing animals?!

 

[dean31]

AFL's Top 40 Goalkickers
53 Josh Kennedy, Lance Franklin
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
43 Josh Jenkins
41 Eddie Betts
38 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
37 Jack Riewoldt
35 Taylor Walker
34 Tom Hawkins
33 Jeremy Cameron, Jake Stringer, Luke Breust
32 Jack Darling
31 Cyril Rioli
30 Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts
29 Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson
28 Tim Membrey, Aaron Young, Toby Greene, Paul Puopolo
27 Josh Bruce, Ben Brown, Jarrad Waite
26 Sam Lloyd, Mark LeCras
25 Brent Harvey
24 Alex Fasolo, Matthew Pavlich, Joe Daniher, Hayden Ballantyne, Tom Lynch (Ad), Michael Walters, Steven Motlop
23 Lindsay Thomas, Daniel Menzel, James Sicily
22 Ty Vickery




Here's how they rank in other facets of the game...



Tackles (avg)
6.1 Cyril Rioli
4.6 Paul Puopolo
4.1 Luke Breust, Jarrad Waite
3.9 Toby Greene
3.8 Eddie Betts
3.5 Aaron Young, Mark LeCras
3.4 Josh Kennedy, Michael Walters
3.3 Jack Gunston
3.2 Matthew Pavlich
3.1 Alex Fasolo, Lindsay Thomas
2.9 Tom Hawkins, Sam Lloyd, Hayden Ballantyne
2.6 Josh Bruce
2.5 Lance Franklin, Brent Harvey
2.4 Jack Darling
2.2 Jack Riewoldt, Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson, Daniel Menzel
2.0 Josh Jenkins
1.9 Steven Motlop
1.8 Jake Stringer, James Sicily
1.7 Tom Lynch (GC), Jesse Hogan, Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts, Ty Vickery
1.6 Tim Membrey, Tom Lynch (Adel)
1.5 Taylor Walker, Jeremy Cameron
1.4 Ben Brown
1.1 Joe Daniher




Contested possessions
8.1 Cyril Rioli, Luke Breust
8.0 Jarrad Waite
7.9 Paul Puopolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
7.7 Jack Riewoldt
7.6 Charlie Dixon
7.4 Eddie Betts, Steve Johnson
7.3 Josh Kennedy
7.2 Chad Wingard
7.1 Jake Stringer, Aaron Young, Toby Greene
7.0 Tom Lynch (GC)
6.9 Lance Franklin
6.8 Michael Walters
6.6 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
6.5 Alex Fasolo
6.2 Josh Jenkins
6.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Watts, Ben Brown
6.0 Tom Hawkins, James Sicily, Daniel Menzel
5.9 Jack Darling, Mark LeCras, Matthew Pavlich
5.7 Brent Harvey
5.5 Josh Bruce, Joe Daniher
5.4 Hayden Ballantyne, Lindsay Thomas
5.1 Jeremy Cameron
4.9 Tim Membrey
4.7 Sam Lloyd
4.6 Steven Motlop
4.4 Ty Vickery




Effective possessions + tackles + 1%ers
19.4 Toby Greene
18.1 Brent Harvey
17.6 Cyril Rioli, Jack Gunston
17.5 Michael Walters
17.1 Aaron Young
16.6 Steven Motlop
16.1 Paul Puopolo
16.0 Alex Fasolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
15.9 Jack Watts
15.7 Lance Franklin
15.5 Jarrad Waite
14.8 Luke Breust
14.6 Eddie Betts
14.5 Steve Johnson, Mark LeCras
14.3 Chad Wingard
13.9 Daniel Menzel, Josh Jenkins, Jesse Hogan
13.7 Jake Stringer
13.6 Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt
13.3 Matthew Pavlich, Sam Lloyd
13.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Darling
12.9 Charlie Dixon, Tom Lynch (GC)
12.3 Hayden Ballantyne
12.2 Tom Hawkins, Ben Brown, Tim Membrey
11.7 Josh Bruce
11.0 Joe Daniher
10.8 Jeremy Cameron, Lindsay Thomas
10.7 James Sicily
8.9 Ty Vickery



Champion Data
102.5 Josh Kennedy
96.4 Jack Gunston
96.0 Jarrad Waite
95.5 Jack Riewoldt
95.4 Lance Franklin
92.9 Josh Jenkins
90.7 Cyril Rioli
90.5 Brent Harvey, Tom Lynch (GC)
90.3 Tom Lynch (Adel)
89.1 Eddie Betts
87.7 Jesse Hogan
87.3 Toby Greene
84.6 Jack Watts
84.1 Aaron Young
83.9 Taylor Walker
83.8 Chad Wingard
83.6 Steven Motlop
82.7 Paul Puopolo, Michael Walters
82.5 Steve Johnson
82.0 Daniel Menzel
81.5 Luke Breust
81.4 Alex Fasolo
78.2 Jake Stringer
77.9 Mark Lecras
77.5 Tom Hawkins, Tim Membrey
76.9 Matthew Pavlich
76.5 Ben Brown
74.6 Jack Darling
74.0 Sam Lloyd
72.9 Jeremy Cameron
72.3 Charlie Dixon
64.3 Joe Daniher, James Sicily
62.7 Hayden Ballantyne
60.9 Lindsay Thomas
58.2 Josh Bruce
55.3 Ty Vickery



AFLCA votes
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
45 Josh Kennedy
40 Lance Franklin, Eddie Betts
31 Cyril Rioli
28 Toby Greene
27 Jack Watts
26 Tom Lynch (Adel), Nick Riewoldt
24 Jack Gunston, Jarrad Waite, Jesse Hogan
23 Luke Dahlhaus
22 Steve Johnson
22 Josh Jenkins
21 Taylor Walker
17 Charlie Dixon
15 Jake Stringer, Paul Puopolo, Mark LeCras
14 Brent Harvey, Tim Membrey, Isaac Heeney
13 Jeremy Cameron, Rory Lobb
12 Michael Walters, Alex Fasolo, Jack Darling, Joe Daniher
11 Aaron Young, James Sicily
10 Jack Riewoldt
9 Orazio Fantasia
8 Chad Wingard, Shane Edwards, Dan Menzel, Charlie Cameron, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner




Conclusion:
Based on stats alone, Cyril Rioli and Eddie Betts are clearly the two best small forwards of 2016.
Betts has been the best finisher with 2.75 goals per game, while Cyril's contested work & defensive pressure has been off the charts.

Wow what a smack down, Mod's backfire this shit. Everyone knows Rioli would get a game at every club in the competition. Tall Poppy syndrome and jealousy is rife in this thread.

 

[Cat A]

AFL's Top 40 Goalkickers
53 Josh Kennedy, Lance Franklin
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
43 Josh Jenkins
41 Eddie Betts
38 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
37 Jack Riewoldt
35 Taylor Walker
34 Tom Hawkins
33 Jeremy Cameron, Jake Stringer, Luke Breust
32 Jack Darling
31 Cyril Rioli
30 Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts
29 Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson
28 Tim Membrey, Aaron Young, Toby Greene, Paul Puopolo
27 Josh Bruce, Ben Brown, Jarrad Waite
26 Sam Lloyd, Mark LeCras
25 Brent Harvey
24 Alex Fasolo, Matthew Pavlich, Joe Daniher, Hayden Ballantyne, Tom Lynch (Ad), Michael Walters, Steven Motlop
23 Lindsay Thomas, Daniel Menzel, James Sicily
22 Ty Vickery




Here's how they rank in other facets of the game...



Tackles (avg)
6.1 Cyril Rioli
4.6 Paul Puopolo
4.1 Luke Breust, Jarrad Waite
3.9 Toby Greene
3.8 Eddie Betts
3.5 Aaron Young, Mark LeCras
3.4 Josh Kennedy, Michael Walters
3.3 Jack Gunston
3.2 Matthew Pavlich
3.1 Alex Fasolo, Lindsay Thomas
2.9 Tom Hawkins, Sam Lloyd, Hayden Ballantyne
2.6 Josh Bruce
2.5 Lance Franklin, Brent Harvey
2.4 Jack Darling
2.2 Jack Riewoldt, Chad Wingard, Steve Johnson, Daniel Menzel
2.0 Josh Jenkins
1.9 Steven Motlop
1.8 Jake Stringer, James Sicily
1.7 Tom Lynch (GC), Jesse Hogan, Charlie Dixon, Jack Watts, Ty Vickery
1.6 Tim Membrey, Tom Lynch (Adel)
1.5 Taylor Walker, Jeremy Cameron
1.4 Ben Brown
1.1 Joe Daniher




Contested possessions
8.1 Cyril Rioli, Luke Breust
8.0 Jarrad Waite
7.9 Paul Puopolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
7.7 Jack Riewoldt
7.6 Charlie Dixon
7.4 Eddie Betts, Steve Johnson
7.3 Josh Kennedy
7.2 Chad Wingard
7.1 Jake Stringer, Aaron Young, Toby Greene
7.0 Tom Lynch (GC)
6.9 Lance Franklin
6.8 Michael Walters
6.6 Jesse Hogan, Jack Gunston
6.5 Alex Fasolo
6.2 Josh Jenkins
6.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Watts, Ben Brown
6.0 Tom Hawkins, James Sicily, Daniel Menzel
5.9 Jack Darling, Mark LeCras, Matthew Pavlich
5.7 Brent Harvey
5.5 Josh Bruce, Joe Daniher
5.4 Hayden Ballantyne, Lindsay Thomas
5.1 Jeremy Cameron
4.9 Tim Membrey
4.7 Sam Lloyd
4.6 Steven Motlop
4.4 Ty Vickery




Effective possessions + tackles + 1%ers
19.4 Toby Greene
18.1 Brent Harvey
17.6 Cyril Rioli, Jack Gunston
17.5 Michael Walters
17.1 Aaron Young
16.6 Steven Motlop
16.1 Paul Puopolo
16.0 Alex Fasolo, Tom Lynch (Adel)
15.9 Jack Watts
15.7 Lance Franklin
15.5 Jarrad Waite
14.8 Luke Breust
14.6 Eddie Betts
14.5 Steve Johnson, Mark LeCras
14.3 Chad Wingard
13.9 Daniel Menzel, Josh Jenkins, Jesse Hogan
13.7 Jake Stringer
13.6 Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt
13.3 Matthew Pavlich, Sam Lloyd
13.1 Taylor Walker, Jack Darling
12.9 Charlie Dixon, Tom Lynch (GC)
12.3 Hayden Ballantyne
12.2 Tom Hawkins, Ben Brown, Tim Membrey
11.7 Josh Bruce
11.0 Joe Daniher
10.8 Jeremy Cameron, Lindsay Thomas
10.7 James Sicily
8.9 Ty Vickery



Champion Data
102.5 Josh Kennedy
96.4 Jack Gunston
96.0 Jarrad Waite
95.5 Jack Riewoldt
95.4 Lance Franklin
92.9 Josh Jenkins
90.7 Cyril Rioli
90.5 Brent Harvey, Tom Lynch (GC)
90.3 Tom Lynch (Adel)
89.1 Eddie Betts
87.7 Jesse Hogan
87.3 Toby Greene
84.6 Jack Watts
84.1 Aaron Young
83.9 Taylor Walker
83.8 Chad Wingard
83.6 Steven Motlop
82.7 Paul Puopolo, Michael Walters
82.5 Steve Johnson
82.0 Daniel Menzel
81.5 Luke Breust
81.4 Alex Fasolo
78.2 Jake Stringer
77.9 Mark Lecras
77.5 Tom Hawkins, Tim Membrey
76.9 Matthew Pavlich
76.5 Ben Brown
74.6 Jack Darling
74.0 Sam Lloyd
72.9 Jeremy Cameron
72.3 Charlie Dixon
64.3 Joe Daniher, James Sicily
62.7 Hayden Ballantyne
60.9 Lindsay Thomas
58.2 Josh Bruce
55.3 Ty Vickery



AFLCA votes
48 Tom Lynch (GC)
45 Josh Kennedy
40 Lance Franklin, Eddie Betts
31 Cyril Rioli
28 Toby Greene
27 Jack Watts
26 Tom Lynch (Adel), Nick Riewoldt
24 Jack Gunston, Jarrad Waite, Jesse Hogan
23 Luke Dahlhaus
22 Steve Johnson
22 Josh Jenkins
21 Taylor Walker
17 Charlie Dixon
15 Jake Stringer, Paul Puopolo, Mark LeCras
14 Brent Harvey, Tim Membrey, Isaac Heeney
13 Jeremy Cameron, Rory Lobb
12 Michael Walters, Alex Fasolo, Jack Darling, Joe Daniher
11 Aaron Young, James Sicily
10 Jack Riewoldt
9 Orazio Fantasia
8 Chad Wingard, Shane Edwards, Dan Menzel, Charlie Cameron, Levi Casboult, Matt Taberner




Conclusion:
Based on stats alone, Cyril Rioli and Eddie Betts are clearly the two best small forwards of 2016.
Betts has been the best finisher with 2.75 goals per game, while Cyril's contested work & defensive pressure has been off the charts.

****ing hell dude, settle down. This post measures one metre on my iPhone.

 

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******* hell dude, settle down. This post measures one metre on my iPhone.

(That'll teach ya for reading Bae 13 in public)