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perthblue said:
yep - if you ever feel guilty about chucking a sickie then just remember that your employers are working round the clock to find a way to replace you with a machine or an immigrant, regardless of how good you are at your job.
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Also, for several years now, every major Australian employer has been looking to move jobs overseas to save costs. They all have look-at-me policies on diversity and the environment but they seem to miss a big moral point that companies who derive nearly all their revenue from Australians should employ Australians. Like I have said elsewhere, entities that do not act morally do not deserve to be treated morally. Take as many sickies as you can get away with.
 
Crash Davis said:
I haven't had a sick day in 2 1/2 years and can't understand why my peers can't just get over something like a cold and battle through.
I ******* hate spongers that take sickies for simple, pissweak reasons. When my staff are sick, they have to ring me by 7:30am to let me know. If it's a Monday or Friday, I text them to get a Dr's certificate. If I'm going to be inconvenienced, then they are as well especially taking a day off either side of a weekend.
My last pay slip had me on 960 hours of sick leave racked up, about 120 days based on a 40 hour work week.
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Based on this, if I worked for you I'd probably want to take my sick leave as soon as I accrued it.
 
perthblue said:
yep - if you ever feel guilty about chucking a sickie then just remember that your employers are working round the clock to find a way to replace you with a machine or an immigrant, regardless of how good you are at your job.
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Those damn immigrants!
 

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Nothing worse than people who come to work sick and make everyone else sick. Last month one of the guys at my work spread this awful cold/virus around all the staff and clients... I had to take a week off and still didn't feel much better. Most of us were moved onto casual contracts earlier in the year when the company was bought out so no paid leave and we lost all our accrued sick leave!
I only take days off if I'm legitimately too unwell to work/contagious. I work in disability services so have to be extra careful.
 
I work in health and the biggest budget problem we have is the nursing culture around sick leave. They view it as extra days off, and on average take two to three times as much as doctors/allied health/admin staff.

Personally I think they're crazy to take sickies. If you work for the government your sick leave rolls over indefinitely, so you're better off treating it like income protection insurance. We've got someone who's just gone off with breast cancer - thanks to 25 years' service she has something like 8 months at full pay before she even has to start dipping into her annual leave or savings.
 
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Ended up taking about 8 days sick earlier this year after a bunch of repeated ear infections, horrendous stuff. Didn't even get asked for a cert but my boss could tell I was in all sorts when I fell over due to vertigo at the start of it.
 
perthblue said:
yep - if you ever feel guilty about chucking a sickie then just remember that your employers are working round the clock to find a way to replace you with a machine or an immigrant, regardless of how good you are at your job.
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lol, what a load of paranoid rubbish. as an employer, the main thing you look for is competence, resilience and reliability.
the same as a football team, you have your guys that are solid as a rock and seem to be able to get up week in, week out and then you have your Nathan Freemans, Chris Yarrans that have the talent but can't get on the field.
it is EXACTLY like a work situation, you can't carry passengers and non-performers. eventually those performers that continually pick up the slack will become bitter and less motivated and you run the risk of losing them.
i should clarify, i don't ask all of my team for certificates, just those that have an ordinary absenteeism history. why is it that some workplaces have staff that never seem to get sick and others that have years of taking their maximum sick leave per year?
and another poster is correct, not having any sick leave shouldn't be seen as a badge of honour (i did sound like a bit of a wank i admit) but why take sick days when you're not sick? that's what a/l is there for
 
People really can't help it sometimes. My partner has Crohns disease so gets sick unexpectedly and regularly, compared to most. She needs that sick leave. She'll definitely work through a common cold and when she's there she gives 100%, arrives early, finishes late.

People get sick, sometimes through no fault of their own, it is how they conduct themselves when they aren't sick how they should be judged on as a worker.

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Work happiness absolutely plays a part in how much leave you take IMO... and maturity

I was in the public service for 6 years... and hated it... and constantly used my sick days as I just couldn't be ****ed going in and dealing with it all.

Changed jobs, went back to my trade.. when I was young I would take plenty of sickies just not being ****ed going in or being hungover... but now days I reckon i have taken 1 or 2 days in 2 years as just needing a day off.. and have missed 1 day sick and been sent home 1 day sick.
I find I used mine more now with carers leave (kids sick, missus pregnant and having scares etc)

My work we need a certificate if sick on a a Monday/Friday or day before or after a holiday...
Someone I work with constantly is taking days off on a Friday. At a small company 1 person off at the end of the week constantly isna serious pain in the arse though
 

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Private Hudson said:
Used to take them regularly but then I badly broke my ankle and was off work for 5 months and I wished I had saved all my sick leave up.
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For me, as per my earlier post, it was probably a blessing breaking mine so early into my working career. That was 31 years ago and I can honestly say that in the time since, I've taken one 'sickie' when I wasn't actually sick, that was working at a prison which I used to not particularly like. I could've done what a lot of others there did/do, go see a GP and when they ask what you do for a living, as soon as you tell them, they ask how many days you want off (for the stress).
 
perthblue said:
yep - if you ever feel guilty about chucking a sickie then just remember that your employers are working round the clock to find a way to replace you with a machine or an immigrant, regardless of how good you are at your job.
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If you are in an unskilled or uneducated field maybe.


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Demosthenes said:
I work in health and the biggest budget problem we have is the nursing culture around sick leave. They view it as extra days off, and on average take two to three times as much as doctors/allied health/admin staff.

Personally I think they're crazy to take sickies. If you work for the government your sick leave rolls over indefinitely, so you're better off treating it like income protection insurance. We've got someone who's just gone off with breast cancer - thanks to 25 years' service she has something like 8 months at full pay before she even has to start dipping into her annual leave or savings.
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I'm a nurse. It's a very stressful job not to mention that the risk of injury is high. This is why they take so many sickies. Sometimes you just can't face another day with sick demanding patients and their annoying and rude asf relatives.
 
DemonTim said:
Try again. My industry offshores skilled analysts
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Companies will offshore any roles that can be done overseas for less money - whether skilled or unskilled. But it's often done dishonestly such as under the guise of a 'restructure'. Or making out that the company operates globally to justify (indirectly) employing thousands of staff based overseas - when the vast majority of the company's revenue is earned in Australia. I'm also seeing work 'offshored' but then those overseas based workers spend significant time doing the work in Australia.

I can understand people wanting to save their sick leave for when they might need it, but not taking sick leave out of some feeling of wanting to do the 'right thing' by their employer is misguided.
 
outabounds said:
Just had a look- I have accrued 353 sick days up my sleeve. Don't have any sort of income protection insurance so i see this as my insurance if I ever got seriously ill.
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So hypothetically you could take a day every month as sick leave and still maintain a year off as insurance in case you got seriously ill? What happens to this accumulated leave if you quit or were made redundant?
 
Perth gal said:
I'm a nurse. It's a very stressful job not to mention that the risk of injury is high. This is why they take so many sickies. Sometimes you just can't face another day with sick demanding patients and their annoying and rude asf relatives.
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Okay. :thumbsu: Just don't complain there aren't enough nurses when you're eating up ~2% of the state's nursing budget by chucking sickies.
 
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So hypothetically you could take a day every month as sick leave and still maintain a year off as insurance in case you got seriously ill? What happens to this accumulated leave if you quit or were made redundant?
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You lose it all, there is no pay out for it if you quit or retire. I'm employed through the Vic govt.
 

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