Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part 2 (cont. in Part 3)

[KnobHead]

Without any comments from the Bryce, you actually think the media will spare the issue in 2017 and leave the club in peace?
Give me a spell. You would be seriously naïve if you didn't think this issue is a very large elephant in the room within the walls of Ikon Park.
Every time next year Bryce plays well (or not for that matter) the inevitable commentary won't be about how good he is for Carlton it will be about what his plans are in 2018 (despite being contracted!) I guarantee you it will be a topic discussed all year on radio, footy shows & club press conferences.
From CFC's point of view, It will be a nagging, annoying & most importantly distracting issue that will play out all year unless the club & Bryce are proactive in how to handle it.

calm down laddy, just because someone thinks differently to you dont mean they're naive. play the issue, not the man.

back to the issue - where are the current reports that gibbs has to respond to? you're original post was about current media speculation, not what the media might say in 6 months time if gibbs' form ain't good.

in any event, making a statement to the media in November 2016 is unlikely to stop the media talking about Gibbs in April 2017 if his form ain't good. They won't talk if his form is good. that's the only way out of it.

going to the media now when there's no fire may only start one.

 

[Manchego Cheese]

The only festering I've seen has been from angsty fans on forums - sweet FA in the media.

Do you think, maybe, it's possible that you feel aggrieved (personally) by the attempted trade last year and you're projecting that onto the general populace? You assume the media will take his silence as evidence he wants to go again? Here's the thing - maybe he does. He could come out and say he's planning on staying at Carlton for the rest of his career - and the media would simply use that as an opening to discuss a possible move to Adelaide. "Things change", they'll say. "What if Adelaide make the top 4, every player wants a chance at a flag". Both are true, but that doesn't mean they'll come to pass.

I'm not fussed where he wants to be in 2018, and I couldn't care less what he says about it - if he takes the field each week with the intention of playing well for the club and his mates, he's welcome to try his hand at orchestrating a trade again next year.

I'm not making comment about my position on/attitude towards Gibbs' want to leave the club.

I'm saying the club ought to have nipped the whole situation in the bud.

Murphy got asked about it.

Gibbs will if he ever fronts the media.

Bolton will.

Rinse and repeat as the season draws near and the club want to put any positive message into the media.

A simple piece to camera like that takes whatever air is inside the issue right out of it. It addresses it and we have the opportunity to move on.

If anyone is asked about it their response can be, "Bryce has already said..."

It will continue to fester. It will rear its head again and again. It will be (however severe or slight) an annoyance for player(s), coach and club.

 

[onesilop]

I'm not making comment about my position on/attitude towards Gibbs' want to leave the club.

I'm saying the club ought to have nipped the whole situation in the bud.

Murphy got asked about it.

Gibbs will if he ever fronts the media.

Bolton will.

Rinse and repeat as the season draws near and the club want to put any positive message into the media.

A simple piece to camera like that takes whatever air is inside the issue right out of it. It addresses it and we have the opportunity to move on.

If anyone is asked about it their response can be, "Bryce has already said..."

It will continue to fester. It will rear its head again and again. It will be (however severe or slight) an annoyance for player(s), coach and club.

All that needs to be said by anyone asked the question, "Just like this year, if Bryce asked to be traded at years end Carlton will set a price we see as being fair and if an agreement can be met we'll thank Bryce for his service and move on. Until then we love Bryce and want to see him continue being one of our best players."

 

[Blue__Balls]

I'm not making comment about my position on/attitude towards Gibbs' want to leave the club.

I'm saying the club ought to have nipped the whole situation in the bud.

Murphy got asked about it.

Gibbs will if he ever fronts the media.

Bolton will.

Rinse and repeat as the season draws near and the club want to put any positive message into the media.

A simple piece to camera like that takes whatever air is inside the issue right out of it. It addresses it and we have the opportunity to move on.

If anyone is asked about it their response can be, "Bryce has already said..."

It will continue to fester. It will rear its head again and again. It will be (however severe or slight) an annoyance for player(s), coach and club.

There is no air in the issue - you're puffing as hard as you can, but there's no media speculation.

Whether Gibbs did a club-orchestrated puff piece or not, when he fronts up his first press conference he will undoubtedly be asked about the situation. His vague statements about loving the club and being "happy to focus on one game at a time" can come then.

You're not talking about the club moving on - I suspect they already have, hence the smiling, candid training photos. You think a photographer got all the players to pose and had to wave a rattle around to get Gibbsy to smile? He's enjoying himself at training, he's got good mates there. That doesn't mean he won't want to move to Adelaide in 12 months if he can, there are family considerations at play, and as such any club-scripted press releases are pointless. His actions next season are all that should matter to the club, everything else can be managed.

Deep down, you're caught up on (a) the media moving on, and (b) you yourself moving on. The first won't happen, and the second will as soon as you accept the first.

 

[SABlue]

Without any comments from the Bryce, you actually think the media will spare the issue in 2017 and leave the club in peace?
Give me a spell. You would be seriously naïve if you didn't think this issue is a very large elephant in the room within the walls of Ikon Park.
Every time next year Bryce plays well (or not for that matter) the inevitable commentary won't be about how good he is for Carlton it will be about what his plans are in 2018 (despite being contracted!) I guarantee you it will be a topic discussed all year on radio, footy shows & club press conferences.
From CFC's point of view, It will be a nagging, annoying & most importantly distracting issue that will play out all year unless the club & Bryce are proactive in how to handle it.

Settle petal. What is he going to say that will stop it if the media do start to speculate.
"I love the club, can't wait to play for the blues, blah blah blah". What is the point? Won't make a lick of difference.

 

[Navara79]

 

[SABlue]

Bryce will be badgered by fans and media all year.

Staying silent will only make that worse. Had they come out and made a very simple statement (whether or not he believes what he's saying) they'd have gone some way towards putting it to bed.

As it is, they've done nothing and the whole ordeal will fester until it rears its head again - which it will.

No it won't. Couldn't care less what he has to say.
So you think a response where he lies is helpful. Or is it only helpful to you? I just don't get the point of a media release to please the media and 2 blues supporters. We know why he wanted to leave, we know why he didn't what else is the left to say?

 

[SABlue]

I'm not making comment about my position on/attitude towards Gibbs' want to leave the club.

I'm saying the club ought to have nipped the whole situation in the bud.

Murphy got asked about it.

Gibbs will if he ever fronts the media.

Bolton will.

Rinse and repeat as the season draws near and the club want to put any positive message into the media.

A simple piece to camera like that takes whatever air is inside the issue right out of it. It addresses it and we have the opportunity to move on.

If anyone is asked about it their response can be, "Bryce has already said..."

It will continue to fester. It will rear its head again and again. It will be (however severe or slight) an annoyance for player(s), coach and club.

So your saying that if Bryce did a little puff piece now that if his form is ordinary the media won't speculate. Please.
Bryce has 2 bad games in a row and the media will say "ohh hang on no need to speculate because Byrce said everything is cool back in November". C'mon man.

 

[TooBlue14]

No charlie???

 

[Arr0w]

No charlie???

Give it a couple of years

 

[Crippa#9]

No it won't. Couldn't care less what he has to say.
So you think a response where he lies is helpful. Or is it only helpful to you? I just don't get the point of a media release to please the media and 2 blues supporters. We know why he wanted to leave, we know why he didn't what else is the left to say?

Who is asking him to lie? And your "couldn't care less" statement - that's fine mate , I personally agree with you (along with most other CFC supporters by the sound of it) but there will be a blood thirsty media throng next year that will care. I think that some people's views on here that it is basically a non issue are in fact naïve (sorry some people think that's playing the man?). Deny it or not, it will be an elephant in the room that we could best do without.

There are over 100 journos in this city that report on AFL not to mention those in Adelaide. Of course nothing is being said now (it is the end of NOVEMBER!) but as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow it will be a significant distraction and frustration for coaches, players & administrators in 2017 if they don't get on the front foot. I wouldn't of thought it was that hard.

 

[ShanDog]

Who is asking him to lie? And your "couldn't care less" statement - that's fine mate , I personally agree with you (along with most other CFC supporters by the sound of it) but there will be a blood thirsty media throng next year that will care. I think that some people's views on here that it is basically a non issue are in fact naïve (sorry some people think that's playing the man?). Deny it or not, it will be an elephant in the room that we could best do without.

There are over 100 journos in this city that report on AFL not to mention those in Adelaide. Of course nothing is being said now (it is the end of NOVEMBER!) but as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow it will be a significant distraction and frustration for coaches, players & administrators in 2017 if they don't get on the front foot. I wouldn't of thought it was that hard.

I don't think a focus piece by Carlton media on how Bryce is going will hurt at all, but overall won't make a difference to the media narrative. Everyone knows it will be puff, and speculation in the media isn't likely to ease up because of it.

The only real positive would be the impression given to less engaged supporters and members who would like it. That's not to say it isn't worthwhile because they aren't hardcore fans of course.

 

[SABlue]

Who is asking him to lie? And your "couldn't care less" statement - that's fine mate , I personally agree with you (along with most other CFC supporters by the sound of it) but there will be a blood thirsty media throng next year that will care. I think that some people's views on here that it is a basically a non issue are in fact naïve (sorry some people think that's playing the man?). Deny it or not, it will be an elephant in the room that we could best do without.

There are over 100 journos in this city that report on AFL not to mention those in Adelaide. Of course nothing is being said now (it is the end of NOVEMBER!) but as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow it will be a significant distraction and frustration for coaches, players & administrators in 2017 if they don't get on the front foot. I wouldn't of thought it was that hard.

But what is he going to say that equates to getting on the front foot? And will also stop the media from speculating.
If he is still keen to leave should he come out and say that once the next season is complete I still want to leave? What happens then when he plays 2 stinkers? The media won't speculate because comments made in November? Doubt that.
The media will say what they want to say regardless of what is said in November. If people think otherwise then they are being a tad naive.

 

[thylacine60]

Think we are unfortunately moving toward the NRL model where player movements are confirmed public knowledge by mid-season.

 

[therubbernub]

No charlie???

charlie was at the pub on draft night

 

[thylacine60]

charlie was on the draught on draft night

 

[Crippa#9]

calm down laddy, just because someone thinks differently to you dont mean they're naive. play the issue, not the man.

back to the issue - where are the current reports that gibbs has to respond to? you're original post was about current media speculation, not what the media might say in 6 months time if gibbs' form ain't good.

in any event, making a statement to the media in November 2016 is unlikely to stop the media talking about Gibbs in April 2017 if his form ain't good. They won't talk if his form is good. that's the only way out of it.

going to the media now when there's no fire may only start one.

Oh lord. the notion of suggesting someone is naïve is now deemed offensive... Perfectly calm my good man. In any case I hope no offence was taken.

I never mentioned current reports in anywhere I posted did I? I suggested the lack of a statement from Bryce is only exasperating the issue (radio talkback, commentary, social media) and I confidently anticipate it will only become more of a circus when the media focus turns back to footy early next year. My view remains; it's not a big issue with CFC supporters but if Bryce stays silent & doesn't chat to our PR team, the media will ensure it a nasty, annoying & long distraction for our club in 2017. I'm no expert in how to handle this but that's what the club should be figuring out.

Ok, I'm ready to move on now!

 

[Blue__Balls]

Who is asking him to lie? And your "couldn't care less" statement - that's fine mate , I personally agree with you (along with most other CFC supporters by the sound of it) but there will be a blood thirsty media throng next year that will care. I think that some people's views on here that it is basically a non issue are in fact naïve (sorry some people think that's playing the man?). Deny it or not, it will be an elephant in the room that we could best do without.

There are over 100 journos in this city that report on AFL not to mention those in Adelaide. Of course nothing is being said now (it is the end of NOVEMBER!) but as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow it will be a significant distraction and frustration for coaches, players & administrators in 2017 if they don't get on the front foot. I wouldn't of thought it was that hard.

The thing to remember is that those "journos" don't give two shits about the truth - they're in the business of selling papers, generating clicks and attracting listeners. Gibbs could come out and sign a contract saying that he'll stay at Carlton til 2025, and those "journos" would simply trot out the "contracts mean nothing anymore" line and go on their merry way speculating about whether Gibbs will be playing for Adelaide or Port.

No matter what he says, or when he says it, the hack media crowd will still do what they always do. It's only a distraction for the club if they let it get to them, and a token interview on the club website isn't going to change the views of anyone important.

 

[Blubagger71]

calm down laddy, just because someone thinks differently to you dont mean they're naive. play the issue, not the man.

back to the issue - where are the current reports that gibbs has to respond to? you're original post was about current media speculation, not what the media might say in 6 months time if gibbs' form ain't good.

in any event, making a statement to the media in November 2016 is unlikely to stop the media talking about Gibbs in April 2017 if his form ain't good. They won't talk if his form is good. that's the only way out of it.

going to the media now when there's no fire may only start one.

The 24 hour news cycle is always hungry for info, a myriad of experts will have their say whether Bryce speaks or not. Who cares what they say! He is as entitled as anyone to seek the best employment opportunity possible. Good luck to him.
I also admire his professionalism and get will handle himself with aplomb. Every bad game, he will be seeking a trade; every good game, look how happy he is! Let them write the stories, just keep racking up great team performances Big Fella!

 

[Blubagger71]

Think we are unfortunately moving toward the NRL model where player movements are confirmed public knowledge by mid-season.

No chance! Even they hate it...

 

[Manchego Cheese]

Oh lord. the notion of suggesting someone is naïve is now deemed offensive... Perfectly calm my good man. In any case I hope no offence was taken.

I never mentioned current reports in anywhere I posted did I? I suggested the lack of a statement from Bryce is only exasperating the issue (radio talkback, commentary, social media) and I confidently anticipate it will only become more of a circus when the media focus turns back to footy early next year. My view remains; it's not a big issue with CFC supporters but if Bryce stays silent & doesn't chat to our PR team, the media will ensure it a nasty, annoying & long distraction for our club in 2017. I'm no expert in how to handle this but that's what the club should be figuring out.

Ok, I'm ready to move on now!

Mate, they don't get it...

 

[Blue__Balls]

Mate, they don't get it...

Your whole argument hinges on a Gibbs presser somehow preventing the media from bringing up a potential move to Adelaide ever again...do you actually believe that would be the case?

 

[Navara79]

Jon Ralph with the late news. . . .

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[thylacine60]

The more connections we have with what is officially now the second biggest pool of mineable talent after the TAC the better I like it.

 

[Manchego Cheese]

Your whole argument hinges on a Gibbs presser somehow preventing the media from bringing up a potential move to Adelaide ever again...do you actually believe that would be the case?

... Nope.

They're going to bring it up. Regularly. To Gibbs; Murphy; Bolton; Trigg... anyone who does a presser. And what line do we have? Nothing better than something from the horses mouth.