Pre-Season Best 22 - 2018

[Juddernaut08]

FB - Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Ciaran Byrne
HB - Jacob Weitering, Caleb Marchbank, Kade Simpson
C - Sam Petrevski-Seton, Matthew Kennedy, Marc Murphy
HF - Zac Fisher, Charlie Curnow, Jarrod Pickett
FF - Jack Silvagni, Harry McKay, Matthew Wright
R - Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow

I - Paddy Dow, Jed Lamb (Darcy Lang), Tom Williamson, David Cuningham

E - Macreadie Dale Thomas, Levi Casboult, Jarrod Garlett

Really like this. Swap Lang in for Lamb once fit and we're all good. Macreadi into the Simon White role (patch-up emergency), Casboult the Ruck/KPF backup, Thomas and Garlett is good

 

[TeeJay Blue]

Really like this. Swap Lang in for Lamb once fit and we're all good. Macreadi into the Simon White role (patch-up emergency), Casboult the Ruck/KPF backup, Thomas and Garlett is good

Forgot about the fourth emergency. Might not have it as Macreadie though.

Not that he isn't any good. He is still quite raw in talent. Might just push Lamb to emergency and have Lang in the team as you have brought up.

 

[gbatman]

You know things have changed significantly when you have to squabble over emergency spots. Silvagni and Thomas are big calls for emergencies, but hard to push anyone out for them. Think there might be a few ahead of Mullet, but can't quite put my finger on it yet. Certainly not sure we can split Mullet and O'Shea yet. Glad you've got Williamson in though.

Signs are good, injuries and form will sort things out for us.

 

[BluesRule]

Hamish? We don't have any James' on our list.
I love the potential of Macreadie, but I reckon he will be traded in a year or two, even if it's his own request due to lack of opportunity.

Need a dislike button for this.

Macreadie, I think will surprise a few with how many games he gets in 2018.
He can play back, forward and on a wing - others will get a chance but hoping he is a regular in B22 by end of season.

 

[BlueRenaissance]

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Macreadie, I think will surprise a few with how many games he gets in 2018.
He can play back, forward and on a wing - others will get a chance but hoping he is a regular in B22 by end of season.

+1

Macreadie is safe.

1) Liam J is 27 and Macreadie is his direct replacement.
2) There are always injuries fwd or back to talls (he will get games).
3) Carlton are just now on the up and up. Exciting times ahead and they all know it.

 

[getgaff]

Offering a bit of an outsiders perspective before Round 1. Pick it apart as you wish, any critique whether positive or negative is accepted.

BACK: Lachie Plowman ~ Liam Jones ~ Alex Silvagni
HALF BACK: Caleb Marchbank ~ Jacob Weitering ~ Kade Simpson
CENTRE: Sam Petrevski - Seton ~ Patrick Cripps ~ Darcy Lang
HALF FWD: Matthew Kennedy ~ Charlie Curnow ~ Jack Silvagni
FWD: Harry McKay ~ Levi Casboult ~ Matthew Wright
'1R: Matthew Kruezer ~ Marc Murphy ~ Ed Curnow
INT: Paddy Dow ~ Zac Fisher ~ Jarrod Pickett ~ David Cunningham

??? is against the Docherty role. So many options off that HB whether it's Williamson, Mullett, O'Shea, Byrne, maybe Marchbank if he pushes up a line.

My opinion is it could be Marchbank who is a very strong intercept player and his role can be covered by Alex Silvagni. I'm a big fan of Tom Williamson also however and wouldn't mind seeing him get a good look at the role, as a future replacement for Simpson as well.

Overall the back line is fairly consistent to what it was in 2017 except they are all a year more experienced and gelled each other more.


Midfield the big loss is Gibbs obviously but I like the addition of Matt Kennedy. Real bull at the stoppages and can keep giving Carlton that hard edge in the midfield when Cripps is resting.


I've named both McKay and Casboult as deeper forwards but maybe for team balance only one will fit? Either way one will have to find a way to be a supporting ruck to Kruezer.

Few younger guys and less established players that will put pressure on the listed 22 in 2018 include O'Brien, Lamb, Mullett, Garlett and O'Shea.

 

[raymagoo]

Tracking pretty well against the benchmark for his position/age group

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Geoff this page isn’t for common sense or stats please.

 

[raymagoo]

Those that have Byrne and not Mullet(?) might be disappointed.

Yeah nah

 

[Schods]

Outsider Best 22 – round one

FB: Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Byrne, Weitering, Simpson
C: Petrevski-Seton, Cripps, Kennedy
HF: J.Silvagni, C.Curnow, Wright
FF: Dow, Casboult, Garlett
Foll: Kreuzer, E.Curnow, Murphy
Int: McKay, Fisher, Cuningham, Thomas
E: Lamb, Kerridge, Mullett, O'Shea

Missing through injury: Docherty, Pickett, Lang, Rowe, Williamson

Missing out: O'Brien, De Koning, Schumacher, Macreadie, Lobbe, Polson, Graham, Phillips, Kerr, Shaw, Glass-McCasker, Lebois, A.Silvagni, McDaid

 

[bluemahogany]

Outsider Best 22 – round one

FB: Plowman, Jones, Marchbank
HB: Byrne, Weitering, Simpson
C: Petrevski-Seton, Cripps, Kennedy
HF: J.Silvagni, C.Curnow, Wright
FF: Dow, Casboult, Pickett
Foll: Kreuzer, E.Curnow, Murphy
Int: McKay, Fisher, Cuningham, Thomas
E: Lamb, Kerridge, Mullett

Missing through injury: Docherty, Garlett, Lang, Rowe

Missing out: O'Brien, De Koning, Schumacher, O'Shea, Macreadie, Lobbe, Polson, Williamson, Graham, Phillips, Kerr, Shaw, Glass-McCasker, Lebois, A.Silvagni, McDaid

Williamson in unless injured

 

[gbatman]

I've got it rolling on to this which it probably close to the round one side. Just one change from last week's game. Thomas was good and Cuningham not so much.

B: Marchbank Jones Plowman
HB: Simpson Weitering Byrne
C: Curnow Cripps Garlett
HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy
F: Silvagni Casboult Pickett
OB: Kreuzer Murphy Petrevski-Seton
IC: Dow Thomas Williamson Wright
EM: Lang Lamb Cuningham Mullett

 

[ray8182]

Offering a bit of an outsiders perspective before Round 1. Pick it apart as you wish, any critique whether positive or negative is accepted.

BACK: Lachie Plowman ~ Liam Jones ~ Alex Silvagni
HALF BACK: Caleb Marchbank ~ Jacob Weitering ~ Kade Simpson
CENTRE: Sam Petrevski - Seton ~ Patrick Cripps ~ Darcy Lang
HALF FWD: Matthew Kennedy ~ Charlie Curnow ~ Jack Silvagni
FWD: Harry McKay ~ Levi Casboult ~ Matthew Wright
'1R: Matthew Kruezer ~ Marc Murphy ~ Ed Curnow
INT: Paddy Dow ~ Zac Fisher ~ Jarrod Pickett ~ David Cunningham

??? is against the Docherty role. So many options off that HB whether it's Williamson, Mullett, O'Shea, Byrne, maybe Marchbank if he pushes up a line.

My opinion is it could be Marchbank who is a very strong intercept player and his role can be covered by Alex Silvagni. I'm a big fan of Tom Williamson also however and wouldn't mind seeing him get a good look at the role, as a future replacement for Simpson as well.

Overall the back line is fairly consistent to what it was in 2017 except they are all a year more experienced and gelled each other more.


Midfield the big loss is Gibbs obviously but I like the addition of Matt Kennedy. Real bull at the stoppages and can keep giving Carlton that hard edge in the midfield when Cripps is resting.


I've named both McKay and Casboult as deeper forwards but maybe for team balance only one will fit? Either way one will have to find a way to be a supporting ruck to Kruezer.

Few younger guys and less established players that will put pressure on the listed 22 in 2018 include O'Brien, Lamb, Mullett, Garlett and O'Shea.

I thought Carltonfc picks a tall backline but you have out done them. That’s a very tall backline! You sure there’s enough run off half back?


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[Tex Danger]

sorry to intrude guys and point me in the right direction if I missed a more approbate thread but im curious about Garlett purely from a Dream Team perspective.

He is in a lot of your best 22s and with Picketts injury that must strengthen his best 22 claims if his own injury is sorted. So I guess the questions are where is he in your best 22 calculations (if he is picked rd 1 with minimal match practice that would bede very well), what is his likelihood of being fit and considered rd 1 and if he plays, where has the talk o his role been (and by extension can he get that 60 average that he had in his last year at GC)

Thanks!

 

[Jimmae]

sorry to intrude guys and point me in the right direction if I missed a more approbate thread but im curious about Garlett purely from a Dream Team perspective.

He is in a lot of your best 22s and with Picketts injury that must strengthen his best 22 claims if his own injury is sorted. So I guess the questions are where is he in your best 22 calculations (if he is picked rd 1 with minimal match practice that would bede very well), what is his likelihood of being fit and considered rd 1 and if he plays, where has the talk o his role been (and by extension can he get that 60 average that he had in his last year at GC)

Thanks!

I think at this point, they'll back him just for his forward pressure, agility, natural fitness and skill set. Frees up Thomas and Fisher to use their game sense without worrying about primarily maintaining forward patterns, and leaves Wright to play a deeper role without worrying about supporting midfield with his leads.

Polson is a smokey for this reason also, but I'd be surprised to see him named in any capacity.

 

[Jeremias]

Think we'll go with this lineup vs Richmond next week.

B: Byrne - Jones - Plowman
HB: Simpson - Weitering - Marchbank
C: E Curnow - Kennedy - Mullett
HF: Lamb - C Curnow - Fisher
F: Silvagni - Casboult - Wright
R: Kreuzer - Cripps - Murphy
Int: Dow - SPS - Cuningham - Thomas
Emer: LOB - McKay - O'Shea - Lobbe

Not considered (injury) - Pickett, Docherty, Rowe, Lang, Williamson

A few notes...

1) Harry - Don't think he did enough through the preseason games to warrant selection, but there is an argument to be made that he'll be better off developing at senior level regardless. I think we'll look far more dangerous across the ground with an extra small so I've given his spot to Lamb in the above side.

2) Mullett - I've gone for him over Garlett for the last spot in our side, but only just and it won't surprise should we go the other way. Garlett well and truly on the cusp but the shoulder injury in JLT1 may just work against him here.

3) Lang/Williamson - I have both in our best 22 but I think we can play it safe rather than rush either or both into the side on the back of interrupted preseasons.

 

[ray8182]

Think we'll go with this lineup vs Richmond next week.

B: Byrne - Jones - Plowman
HB: Simpson - Weitering - Marchbank
C: E Curnow - Kennedy - Mullett
HF: Lamb - C Curnow - Fisher
F: Silvagni - Casboult - Wright
R: Kreuzer - Cripps - Murphy
Int: Dow - SPS - Cuningham - Thomas
Emer: LOB - McKay - O'Shea - Lobbe

Not considered (injury) - Pickett, Docherty, Rowe, Lang, Williamson

A few notes...

1) Harry - Don't think he did enough through the preseason games to warrant selection, but there is an argument to be made that he'll be better off developing at senior level regardless. I think we'll look far more dangerous across the ground with an extra small so I've given his spot to Lamb in the above side.

2) Mullett - I've gone for him over Garlett for the last spot in our side, but only just and it won't surprise should we go the other way. Garlett well and truly on the cusp but the shoulder injury in JLT1 may just work against him here.

3) Lang/Williamson - I have both in our best 22 but I think we can play it safe rather than rush either or both into the side on the back of interrupted preseasons.

Like your team but if Garlett fit would play him. Need pace to cope with Richmond’s run.

From the little l have seen of Mullett lm not a fan.


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[Tex Danger]

I think at this point, they'll back him just for his forward pressure, agility, natural fitness and skill set. Frees up Thomas and Fisher to use their game sense without worrying about primarily maintaining forward patterns, and leaves Wright to play a deeper role without worrying about supporting midfield with his leads.

Polson is a smokey for this reason also, but I'd be surprised to see him named in any capacity.

Thanks mate.

Will his role involve pushing up the ground on the wings allowing him to get a bit of the ball then or be more just pressure forward with low stats?

 

[Jimmae]

Thanks mate.

Will his role involve pushing up the ground on the wings allowing him to get a bit of the ball then or be more just pressure forward with low stats?

He'll be pushing up as his fitness allows and then trying to create an overlap on the turnover and continuing to try to create that overlap from the wing to about 30 metres out from goal.

Think like his cousin Jeff, but probably much more oriented towards link play and defensive pressure than outright scoring. Generally fitter too.