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[plugger66]

Oops. Allegedly. He’s been charged so something in but I’m sure you’ll argue all day that there isn’t

No need to argue. He isn’t guilty yet. Fact. Just out of interest have you had illegal drugs? I have once but it isn’t my go.


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[triggering bro]

Don’t know if he has stuffed up anyone’s life because he hasn’t been found guilty of anything but I think anyone who knows him thinks he has mental health issues.


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Everyone that does something wrong has mental issues these days ffs

 

[triggering bro]

You campaigners are always trying to sensor people’s opinions. Lmao. Argumentative campaigners

 

[plugger66]

Everyone that does something wrong has mental issues these days ffs

I don’t think that’s true but a lot more people have mental health issues because it’s now diagnosed. Maybe many also did in the past but people passed it off as that person is just idiot. Maybe we go back to those days. What do you think.


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[plugger66]

You campaigners are always trying to sensor people’s opinions. Lmao. Argumentative campaigners

No you actually started it because you claimed I said he was the victim when quite clearly I didn’t. Weird


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[triggering bro]

I don’t think that’s true but a lot more people have mental health issues because it’s no diagnosed. Maybe many also did in the past but people passed it off as that person is just idiot. Maybe we go back to those days. What do you think.


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I think we in society do everything we can to shift accountability from the subject to someone/something else. Always looking to pass the blame instead of manning up & taking responsibility.

 

[triggering bro]

No you actually started it because you claimed I said he was the victim when quite clearly I didn’t. Weird


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You are treating him like a victim

 

[VDS66]

Everyone that does something wrong has mental issues these days ffs

He asked a good question... Have you done illicit?

Because you're happy to joke about it on here.

Anyway I agree about accountability.

I also agree that you chimed in, so don't complain about rebuttal.

Whilst technically he's not guilty, they don't lay charges for the fun if it so you'd think they have enough to convict him.

And drug pushers are scum IMO.

 

[VDS66]

You campaigners are always trying to sensor people’s opinions. Lmao. Argumentative campaigners

LMAO so we just fall into line with your views?

 

[gringo2011]

People were getting stuck into Sam Mc Clure last night for calling for sympathy for Bomber. I'm somewhere in the middle. The guys life is ****ed either way, he's got drug problems himself in all likelihood and that's a massive fall from grace to end up where he is. The sad thing is he is just one of heaps of other petty dealers selling it for bikers and crims. He'll down and the real dodgy campaigners are still out there.

 

[VDS66]

People were getting stuck into Sam Mc Clure last night for calling for sympathy for Bomber. I'm somewhere in the middle. The guys life is ****** either way, he's got drug problems himself in all likelihood and that's a massive fall from grace to end up where he is. The sad thing is he is just one of heaps of other petty dealers selling it for bikers and crims. He'll down and the real dodgy campaigners are still out there.

In terms of his criminal activity, he will be held accountable by the courts.

As for his mental state, he needs to fix that because his actions hurt many people including his family and of course the addicts.

The mob can get angry pretty quick with these matters but you have to let justice take its course. Last thing we need is a return to the Lindy Chamberlain days.

Anyway the original post of complaining that we were somehow Victims because Jake got more negative press than Bomber was pretty dumb.

 

[plugger66]

You are treating him like a victim

No I don’t want him to fall off the edge and maybe think suicide is the only option. Shoot me for that. No don’t.


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[VDS66]

No I don’t want him to fall off the edge and maybe think suicide is the only option. Shoot me for that. No don’t.


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Let's not confuse public discussion with the man himself.

I get where trigger is coming from, but whatever our views are, they have no influence on the outcome.

Ultimately it's up to him. He either comes out and owns it or he squibs it and makes excuses for his actions.

 

[plugger66]

Let's not confuse public discussion with the man himself.

I get where trigger is coming from, but whatever our views are, they have no influence on the outcome.

Ultimately it's up to him. He either comes out and owns it or he squibs it and makes excuses for his actions.

No I understand that but I’m probably commenting that I’m glad there isn’t more negative stuff in the afl website and they are my reasons why. Certainly doesn’t make him the victim.


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[triggering bro]

LMAO so we just fall into line with your views?

Nope, do what you want. However, I will say, it feels like I’m constantly arguing with you in particular on this site. We couldn’t be anymore opposite with our views on just about any subject. I’ve gotta stop giving you oxygen TBH.

 

[triggering bro]

No I understand that but I’m probably commenting that I’m glad there isn’t more negative stuff in the afl website and they are my reasons why. Certainly doesn’t make him the victim.


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The narrative the media is delivering is how sorry everyone feels about Bomber & the situation he finds himself in. Robbo is blaming the drug saga at Ess, which ironically Bomber was complicit in.

I’d like the narrative to be about how great a job investigators & prosecutors did to bring before the court an alleged drug trafficker.

Drug traffickers are as bad if not worse than murderers IMO. This is based on the impact each crime has on lives. I don’t emphasise with murderers nor do I with drug traffickers.

Happy to wait until due court process is finalised before I totally write the bloke off. It doesn’t look good for him though.

 

[plugger66]

The narrative the media is delivering is how sorry everyone feels about Bomber & the situation he finds himself in. Robbo is blaming the drug saga at Ess, which ironically Bomber was complicit in.

I’d like the narrative to be about how great a job investigators & prosecutors did to bring before the court an alleged drug trafficker.

Drug traffickers are as bad if not worse than murderers IMO. This is based of the impact both crimes have on lives. I don’t emphasise with murderers nor do I with drug traffickers.

Happy to wait until due court process is finalised before I totally write the bloke off. It doesn’t look good for him though.

I doubt he is more than a little fish just like the guys who sell stuff to people I know. If he is more than that he would be up against more than a magistrate you would think. That was my point of asking if you have used because you would have most likely bought it off some drug effected little fish. Again doesn’t make it right but I could easily dob in guys selling but I know they are drug addicts and if they aren’t selling another drug addict does


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[StCicatriz]

You are treating him like a victim

are people really feeling sorry for him?

he made good coin from his time in footy, he would have made millions from coaching. then he made millions out of property development due to this football connections.

he literally had a good life and had no need to deal drugs.

but he does and it ruins peoples lives. this isn't pot we are talking about or some mushies. it's hard ****ing drugs, incredibly addictive that **** peoples lives. it affects families, friends, children.

he is literally scrum. an absolute piece of shit. if it were indonesia he'd be executed.

 

[StCicatriz]

The narrative the media is delivering is how sorry everyone feels about Bomber & the situation he finds himself in. Robbo is blaming the drug saga at Ess, which ironically Bomber was complicit in.

I’d like the narrative to be about how great a job investigators & prosecutors did to bring before the court an alleged drug trafficker.

Drug traffickers are as bad if not worse than murderers IMO. This is based on the impact each crime has on lives. I don’t emphasise with murderers nor do I with drug traffickers.

Happy to wait until due court process is finalised before I totally write the bloke off. It doesn’t look good for him though.

i'd inbox you if i could with some experiences family members have in their employment with dealing with the fall out of drugs.

horrific stuff. innocent kids are always the victims due to their parents drug use. bomber is complicit in that. he pushes the shit.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Maybe the media is laying off him a bit because he said the saga would kill him and it nearly ended his mates life a year ago.

Poor, sensitive drug kingpin. I heard he really didn’t want to go to jail either.

 

[Joffaboy]

Crap. All day on Sen they kept saying remember he has been charged with trafficking. Probably important to remember he hadn’t been found guilty of anything.


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Correct. Beyond reasonable doubt has not yet been established.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Might not be a perfect system but it protects you and me.

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[plugger66]

are people really feeling sorry for him?

he made good coin from his time in footy, he would have made millions from coaching. then he made millions out of property development due to this football connections.

he literally had a good life and had no need to deal drugs.

but he does and it ruins peoples lives. this isn't pot we are talking about or some mushies. it's hard ******* drugs, incredibly addictive that **** peoples lives. it affects families, friends, children.

he is literally scrum. an absolute piece of shit. if it were indonesia he'd be executed.

Even they have a court system. Maybe we do a poll to decide guilt. And if he was a king pin I doubt a magistrate would decide guilt.


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[George]

Poor, sensitive drug kingpin. I heard he really didn’t want to go to jail either.

I guess we just wait & find out. Pretty serious for him to be charged. I will reserve judgement until we know the facts.

 

[pebblesofsand]

are people really feeling sorry for him?

he made good coin from his time in footy, he would have made millions from coaching. then he made millions out of property development due to this football connections.

he literally had a good life and had no need to deal drugs.

but he does and it ruins peoples lives. this isn't pot we are talking about or some mushies. it's hard ******* drugs, incredibly addictive that **** peoples lives. it affects families, friends, children.

he is literally scrum. an absolute piece of shit. if it were indonesia he'd be executed.

I'm not sure if I would go that far in my description of Thompson but you're right about his situation.

This is not someone who is broke and needs to steal or deal to fund a drug habit. He clearly has money and so you have to ask yourself why would he bother?

If the amounts quoted are correct he is potentially in deep deep s****. The quoted 33 grams of meth amphetamine is way over the level set where the charge changes from possession to trafficking (3.0 grams). The 130 odds grams of ecstasy is anything up to 300 to 400 tablets and depending on the level active ingredient will be way over the limit as well.

Sure its not major league but you are talking potential serious jail time - possibly up to several years.

So it begs the question again why would you bother if you didn't have to?

 

[triggering bro]

Correct. Beyond reasonable doubt has not yet been established.

Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Might not be a perfect system but it protects you and me.

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Yes Joff, presumption of innocence. However, beyond a reasonable doubt is a significant threshold to reach. And given the high profile nature of the case my guess is all the t’s will be crossed & all the i’s will be dotted.

Presumption of innocence doesn’t mean people cannot have an opinion on the matter. The crown will be saying he’s grub (not using that word) & guilty of drug trafficking & defence will be saying he did nothing wrong. I’m happy to side with the prosecution on this matter given the nature. They don’t just roll out serious charges like this willy nilly. There’d be a lot of work done prior to pull together a water tight brief of evidence IMO.

Anyhow, my gripe is the narrative of the AFL media portraying Bomber. It’s the same with King Carey who is a proven grub of the highest order & ‘we’ fawn over this pest.

Happy to disagree but I’m pretty staunch on this subject.