Crows - The Rebuild

[Red mist]

(original thread title: Unofficial Preview The we are sunk without Sauce, Tex and Eddie thread)

Our list is capable of these absences. Please provides replacements and details of self ridicule. Love Red.

MOD NOTE: the above is a great example of how NOT to start a thread. It doesn't make sense, and offers no argument, whether well- or poorly- constructed. Don't start threads like this.

 

[Huntercrow]

I think Robb, “The Berg” and that Stengel guy may be the answer to our problems....or not.....I’m not really sure.

Anyhow best regards
HC

 

[Bicks]

And the point of this thread is?

 

[Deaneus!]

And the point of this thread is?

to check my ability to lock dumb threads under the new look BigFooty site

 

[Mike Smyth]

Are we actually in year 2 of a 7 year rebuild? If thats the case, in a perfect world should the following be retired at the end of the year?

Mackay
Douglas
Tex
Eddie
Jenkins
Sauce

 

[Coopers]

Optimist: I'm not sure that any of them are actually cooked.
Pessimist: We don't have any quality to replace them anyway.


So no, we're not.

 

[Golumless]

Are we actually in year 2 of a 7 year rebuild? If thats the case, in a perfect world should the following be retired at the end of the year?

Mackay
Douglas
Tex
Eddie
Jenkins
Sauce

Bolded are contracted, so no, they won't be retired.

We are also not in year 2 of a 7 year rebuild. We're in a contention window, though, one that sits on life support in that the end of this year decides for us if it is time to pull the plug, or persist.

 

[MRB37]

We've also have several players developing that we think will, or hope will fill those roles.

Douglas can be replaced by Gooch eventually, or one of Jones/McHenry
Tex will be replaced by Fogarty
Eddie will be replaced by Stengle
Jenkins will be replaced by Himmelberg
Sauce will be replaced by ROB, or we'll go on the market and try and source a ruck in similar circumstances to Jacobs when we got him.

 

[Rotayjay]

We've been discussing the possibility of a rebuild on this board since 2016 actually. IIRC I'm on the record saying Tex, Jenkins, Sauce and Sloane would be done after approximately 2019 or 2020. I'll have to dig up those posts.

Of course predictions are pot luck and we always revise in the face of new evidence. One way of looking at 2018 was that our senior players were having a down year fitness-wise and we'd be all good in 2019. The other view is that 2018 was a demonstration that players like Tex had passed their sell-by dates. I love Tex and Sauce etc but you can't run a modern footy club on individual sentiment.

Chances are Tex, Sauce, Eddie, Jenkins, maybe not even Talia or Sloane will be part of our next premiership side. Chances are we will have to do at least a mini-rebuild/reset whatever you like to call it.

I would be astonished if we contend for a flag this year.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Are we actually in year 2 of a 7 year rebuild? If thats the case, in a perfect world should the following be retired at the end of the year?

Mackay
Douglas
Tex
Eddie
Jenkins
Sauce

Throw in a Gibbs and to a lesser extent Jenkins. We need to blood more of the younger guys.

 

[Truck25]

WOW! one game, all be it a bad one, into the season and we are talking rebuild **Shakes Head**

 

[Eagleboy2011]

WOW! one game, all be it a bad one, into the season and we are talking rebuild **Shakes Head**

Maybe but you need to grow and refresh your list all the time or you end up like say a North Melbourne.

 

[Mike Smyth]

Throw in a Gibbs and to a lesser extent Jenkins. We need to blood more of the younger guys.

2nd best post of this thread. A realist.

 

[Mike Smyth]

We've also have several players developing that we think will, or hope will fill those roles.

Douglas can be replaced by Gooch eventually, or one of Jones/McHenry
Tex will be replaced by Fogarty
Eddie will be replaced by Stengle
Jenkins will be replaced by Himmelberg
Sauce will be replaced by ROB, or we'll go on the market and try and source a ruck in similar circumstances to Jacobs when we got him.

Every replacement player you mentioned is either untried or unproven at this level. Even if we look at it positively and say ALL will be direct replacement for the oldies, it will take 4-5 years before they could play at the same level as the 2017 performances of the oldies i mentioned.

 

[Mike Smyth]

Maybe but you need to grow and refresh your list all the time or you end up like say a North Melbourne.

Unfortunately our list gets refreshed every year but not how we woulf like.

 

[MRB37]

Every replacement player you mentioned is either untried or unproven at this level. Even if we look at it positively and say ALL will be direct replacement for the oldies, it will take 4-5 years before they could play at the same level as the 2017 performances of the oldies i mentioned.

And? Where did I say they were immediately going to perform to the same level?

Throw in a Gibbs and to a lesser extent Jenkins. We need to blood more of the younger guys.

So far in his time here Pyke blooded McGovern, Doedee, Milera, Poholke, Fogarty, Gallucci, Murphy, Greenwood, Keath and now looks to be given Jones a chance. There's this non-stop complaint about playing more and more youngsters and it just never ends here.

 

[Cap]

WOW! one game, all be it a bad one, into the season and we are talking rebuild **Shakes Head**

OP should get a 12 month ban if we make finals and Perma pan if we make top 4.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Are we actually in year 2 of a 7 year rebuild? If thats the case, in a perfect world should the following be retired at the end of the year?

Mackay
Douglas
Tex
Eddie
Jenkins
Sauce

Yes
Yes
No
No
No
Yes

 

[Dixie Normous]

Tex retiring at the end of this year? Jog on.

Mackay probably, Sauce maybe

 

[Vhaluus]

WOW! one game, all be it a bad one, into the season and we are talking rebuild **Shakes Head**

One game? Pretty sure people have been calling for it for a year now at least.

 

[Vhaluus]

I hope when Eddie retires we offer him a coaching role, starting with the SANFL squad.

Very smart football brain and we've seen what came of his mentoring of Cameron.

I normally don't like us employing ex players but he's one I'd make an exception for.

Plus it would allow him to continue to be such a good ambassador for our club.

 

[Doc_]

We dont need to rebuild the list. We need to rebuild their heads. We just HAVE to get some confidence happening. Easier said than done.
Its still broken from the GF and collective minds. Its going to be tough to get it back. Saturday, its was a repeat of the GF. Fumbles, missing targets & clangers from the get go in horrendous proportions.

 

[Shaz2012]

Optimist: I'm not sure that any of them are actually cooked.
Pessimist: We don't have any quality to replace them anyway.


So no, we're not.

True. Need to decide though. Do we chase an established ruckman or established players with our draft picks. Or take everything to the draft.

 

[kulak]

OP should get a 12 month ban if we make finals and Perma pan if we make top 4.

If we miss finals again, should we perma ban people who said we would be a contender?

 

[Vhaluus]

We dont need to rebuild the list. We need to rebuild their heads. We just HAVE to get some confidence happening. Easier said than done.
Its still broken from the GF and collective minds. Its going to be tough to get it back. Saturday, its was a repeat of the GF. Fumbles, missing targets & clangers from the get go in horrendous proportions.

We actually started the GF pretty well, we just crumbled when they regrouped and came back at us.